SAU3R Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 From now on every penny I give to this band is a donation for axl to fund vocal surgery and lessons with a vocal coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 hours ago, lame ass security said: Wichita Lineman is a classic country song. I think some of the old country Is excellent but for the most part I despise It. Love Waylon Jennings though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, ironmt said: I think some of the old country Is excellent but for the most part I despise It. Love Waylon Jennings though. I'm a Waylon fan too, I like the old country guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Perfect time to bring back Down on the Farm, no rasp needed here: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Amir said: Perfect time to bring back Down on the Farm, no rasp needed here: He sounds really good, just natural breathing, his singing comes across as effortless. Edited November 12, 2018 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 most of jungle is weak now. He can't dig down deep enough to get anything with power out. Just doesn't seem to have it right now. Even when he sounds decent he's using an odd array of vocals to get the sound close but it's not good. Gotta wonder what's going through his mind as he's hearing himself try to hit these notes at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 9 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: most of jungle is weak now. He can't dig down deep enough to get anything with power out. Just doesn't seem to have it right now. Even when he sounds decent he's using an odd array of vocals to get the sound close but it's not good. Gotta wonder what's going through his mind as he's hearing himself try to hit these notes at the moment. Unusual. It sounds less mickeyish than I expected, but it really seems like he is going a long way to avoid using rasp. It's a bit deeper than his usual falsetto and very clean for WTTJ, a song where he usually brings out a bit of rasp. Odd, and it indicates he is aware of issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayo Michell Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Hey! I don't usually post on the forum, but there's a few things i wanna point it out; There's a discussion about weather and southern coutries to justify Axl sounding bad at Rock in Rio ('17). Well, everyone agrees that SA '16 wasn't a prime, and it's inferior to NA 16, but it still had really strong performances. I attended to the Rio concert and Axl sound really good (except for the usual weak songs) but rasped in a lot songs, even PC. Check this video from WTTJ in Brasília 16, in my opinion it's better than any rendition of the song in 2017 and 2018 and it happened after the 2nd leg of Axl/DC. With that said, I don't think that the country influences his voice. Another point: Axl's best years vocally were '06, '10 and '16. In all these three years he had long breaks before. In '06 he had 4 years of rest; In '10 he had 2 years. In '16 he had almost 2 years, since the last performance of NuGNR was in july '14. I mean, he comes back strong, and eventually loses his voice. Sure, he sucked in '01 after a long hiatus, but back then he was trying somethin' new with his voice, but even then the mickey was stronger and had a lot more power to sustain the notes than nowdays. I don't think Axl is done, he's just tired and worned out, if he takes a 2 year break again, i believe he can sound like '16 again. The problem is to extend the tour for 3 years, with this huge setlist and insane amount of concerts. The perfect scenario for the future is to release a new album (yes, I still think it can happen haha) and tour a 20-song setlist for 3 months and rest for 5 or 6, like someone said above. Sorry for my english, btw 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikothebellic Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Kayo Michell said: Hey! I don't usually post on the forum, but there's a few things i wanna point it out; There's a discussion about weather and southern coutries to justify Axl sounding bad at Rock in Rio ('17). Well, everyone agrees that SA '16 wasn't a prime, and it's inferior to NA 16, but it still had really strong performances. I attended to the Rio concert and Axl sound really good (except for the usual weak songs) but rasped in a lot songs, even PC. Check this video from WTTJ in Brasília 16, in my opinion it's better than any rendition of the song in 2017 and 2018 and it happened after the 2nd leg of Axl/DC. With that said, I don't think that the country influences his voice. Another point: Axl's best years vocally were '06, '10 and '16. In all these three years he had long breaks before. In '06 he had 4 years of rest; In '10 he had 2 years. In '16 he had almost 2 years, since the last performance of NuGNR was in july '14. I mean, he comes back strong, and eventually loses his voice. Sure, he sucked in '01 after a long hiatus, but back then he was trying somethin' new with his voice, but even then the mickey was stronger and had a lot more power to sustain the notes than nowdays. I don't think Axl is done, he's just tired and worned out, if he takes a 2 year break again, i believe he can sound like '16 again. The problem is to extend the tour for 3 years, with this huge setlist and insane amount of concerts. The perfect scenario for the future is to release a new album (yes, I still think it can happen haha) and tour a 20-song setlist for 3 months and rest for 5 or 6, like someone said above. Sorry for my english, btw Well, decent Jungle and I also watched other songs from the show - Axl was a great form there, on par with NA 2016. I have thought that there were no really great concerts in SA 2016, but was wrong. However, was amused by the other thing. During SCOM Axl was in his FREAKIN' FUCKIN" yellow coat. The only time along the tour when I spot it, maybe there are more. I supposed he has buried it, as he should. Edited November 12, 2018 by nikothebellic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 The raincoat is alive and well, I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Pedrolg said: Unusual. It sounds less mickeyish than I expected, but it really seems like he is going a long way to avoid using rasp. It's a bit deeper than his usual falsetto and very clean for WTTJ, a song where he usually brings out a bit of rasp. Odd, and it indicates he is aware of issues. I think that’s a good analysis even if it contradicts what I said. I feel like you grasped the vocal approach better than I did. My only concern is I’ve never heard Axl resort to these vocals quite in this way in so much of the show the way he’s doing now. I’d say we are in new territory vocally for Axl’s career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Yeah, that’s the only day he wore the yellow raincoat again Im sure it was on purpose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 As far as the best jungle I’ve heard from Axl in a while...I’d put this above anything from 2009 on. 2016 cincinatti to me is the benchmark 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayo Michell Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, nikothebellic said: Well, decent Jungle and I also watched other songs from the show - Axl was a great form there, on par with NA 2016. I have thought that there were no really great concerts in SA 2016, but was wrong. However, was amused by the other thing. During SCOM Axl was in his FREAKIN' FUCKIN" yellow coat. The only time along the tour when I spot it, maybe there are more. I supposed he has buried it, as he should. In SA '16 he sounded rough on the first concerts in Peru, Chile and Argentina, but by the time he hit Brazil his voice got solid and raspy in all 7 or 6 concerts in Brazil (especially Brasília and Curitiba), Colombia, Costa Rica and Mexico. And yes, Brasília was the only time he wore the fuckin' yellow raincoat, and I really think It was to mock himself haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 SCOM I recorded yesterday in philippines, and SCOM from Sao Paulo, Brasil Sept last year... both from front and center. You guys decide if theres differences. Sao Paulo was nearing the end of the South American leg but also in between US dates. Philippines is 3rd show of this leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, ChristmasFnatic said: SCOM I recorded yesterday in philippines, and SCOM from Sao Paulo, Brasil Sept last year... both from front and center. You guys decide if theres differences. Sao Paulo was nearing the end of the South American leg but also in between US dates. Philippines is 3rd show of this leg. I think 2018 is slightly better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MildlyArtistic Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: As far as the best jungle I’ve heard from Axl in a while...I’d put this above anything from 2009 on. 2016 cincinatti to me is the benchmark A WTTJ performance that doesn't have Slash noodling the intro for 40 years? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 52 minutes ago, MildlyArtistic said: A WTTJ performance that doesn't have Slash noodling the intro for 40 years? Axl should always lead the intro. I hate the current one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, sl4yer said: I think 2018 is slightly better Agreee. Though upon watching the vid again, I noticed a lot of Mickey. Didnt notice it as much live cuz of the crowd drowning his voice. I dont know why the crowd singing isnt recorded much on the vid, I guess cuz the speakers there were really loud. Edited November 13, 2018 by ChristmasFnatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I find this recent don't cry version from Manila interesting. First of all he uses slightly more power with his deep nasal voice on the choruses and he have this deep rasp after the solo (but has always had that). The he goes clean before the last chorus but push the second part/Outro with some decent rasp. Actually one of the best don't cry versions from NITL tour, 2016 included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooomino Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 This is the best... Houston 2016 <3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycgunner Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 11:06 PM, Sydney Fan said: He sounds really good, just natural breathing, his singing comes across as effortless. Totally right. Can’t believe folks ever complained about that Axl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerTornado Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, nycgunner said: Totally right. Can’t believe folks ever complained about that Axl! Did many? This was just after Sebastian Bach got Axl in touch with his vocal coach and he was usually in top form. Not sure what happened since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpy Hewitt Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Whenever I get sad about axls current vocals I just go back to the 2010 Bucharest show and I feel good again for a short period of time 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacdaniel Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 There is a YouTube video that compares his 92 voice with his 2017 voice. It's a really sad watch. Especially when you consider he is struggling even more in 2018. We need at least 2016 Axl to enjoy these shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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