zepsun Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 While I prefer raspy Axl from Argentina 92, Paris 92, etc., what we are lucky to have is a singer who can still hit the high notes. Many singers lose half of their upper octave early in their careers. If you listen to Robert Plant - he blew his upper octave out around Led Zeppelin 4. Adele as screwed up her voice a little because she sang while sick. Sia is losing a few of her higher notes and now tunes her band/tracks down a few steps. Most 80s bands' singers can't even sing a song to save their lives. Axl still has his unbelievable range. I'd prefer the rasp, but I think he is trying to find a balance without killing his voice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurimor Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, zepsun said: While I prefer raspy Axl from Argentina 92, Paris 92, etc., what we are lucky to have is a singer who can still hit the high notes. Many singers lose half of their upper octave early in their careers. If you listen to Robert Plant - he blew his upper octave out around Led Zeppelin 4. Adele as screwed up her voice a little because she sang while sick. Sia is losing a few of her higher notes and now tunes her band/tracks down a few steps. Most 80s bands' singers can't even sing a song to save their lives. Axl still has his unbelievable range. I'd prefer the rasp, but I think he is trying to find a balance without killing his voice. Well, Bruce Dickinson still has it, too, but you're right, he's one of the few. I think people discussing Axl's voice forget about the most important things in music: passion and emotion. This is a prime example: It was towards the end of the concert, you can hear his voice is done, but he sings it with so much conviction and belief in what he sings, you can hear it every single word. To me, this is one of the most beautiful versions of this song, maybe even because it is not perfect, but honest and from his heart. Edited July 9, 2017 by Zurimor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwegianGirl Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I recently attended 5 concerts with my friend and we were always at the rail, infront of the catwalk so one of the speakers was right infront of us. And yes, it's noticable that there is a change in his voice, it's a clean voice. But we allready knew it though before we attended the shows and we didn't have any less fun because of it Actually, and this is not intended to sound "mean" but we made it in to something fun... for instance: We don't really enjoy the SCOM voice he uses right now, so when the song came on, we looked at each other and kind of smiled like "allright. Let's go" But never in a "oh no..." type of way. I know they will never replace that song, but would be cool to throw in something else, like "Bad obsession". Wouldn't that suit his voice better now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slammerjam Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Everyone feels different at these concerts. It's great that people love it, I'm really happy for my friends, one of my friends said that this was the best thing he's seen since AC/DC in 2010. My firend's cousin said that was the best thing that happened in her life after her son (she couldn't go in 1993, parents didn't let her). Great moments for so many people. I just can't enjoy it, it distracts me from the whole experience. And I don't want to be mean, I only criticize stuff that I love. In this case it's more of an observation. I finally had the heart to listen to some Axl/DC stuff, couldn't get into it last year, as I was really angry and sad of Brians departure and whatever the actual reasons where. But god damn did I get goosebumps just from watching these Youtube clips. The vocal performances on these songs are out of this world. I really hope this voice comes back to the GnR concerts at some point. Would be legendary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Trevor Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 In response to the range thing, I honestly think Axl is losing parts of it now he's having more trouble and voice cracks with his uber high notes than I can ever recall, even in 2012-2014 his voice didn't crack, it just sounded bad lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 It's noticeably weakening now from what I saw of the Paris vids. "Yesterdays" was pretty deflated vocally. The touring seems to be taking its toll. Makes me wonder how he's going to get through the next 30+ odd shows. If he can complete this tour with no cancellations and without incident - it would be unprecedented and a huge move towards repairing his reputation. He's going to have to dig deep and finish out the tour as best he can. Those final arena shows in the US might get pretty rough... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwegianGirl Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 24 minutes ago, slammerjam said: I finally had the heart to listen to some Axl/DC stuff, couldn't get into it last year, as I was really angry and sad of Brians departure and whatever the actual reasons where. But god damn did I get goosebumps just from watching these Youtube clips. The vocal performances on these songs are out of this world. I really hope this voice comes back to the GnR concerts at some point. Would be legendary. And the amazing thing was, as we walked out of the concert (I attended the one in Aarhus, Denmark), everyone was talking about how GREAT he was People saying "I was sceptical, but he nailed it". And those were hard core AC/DC fans. I even felt sometimes I was at a Gn'R concert, because he still put on the "Axl Rose" we all know persona on stage. Running around, dancing, dressing up in his flannel shirt and bandana and his voice was so raspy and cool!! Great experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericy210 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I'm curious to see in upcoming indoor performances will impact him positively or negatively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, RONIN said: It's noticeably weakening now from what I saw of the Paris vids. "Yesterdays" was pretty deflated vocally. The touring seems to be taking its toll. Makes me wonder how he's going to get through the next 30+ odd shows. If he can complete this tour with no cancellations and without incident - it would be unprecedented and a huge move towards repairing his reputation. He's going to have to dig deep and finish out the tour as best he can. Those final arena shows in the US might get pretty rough... I think he has pretty much repaired his reputation at this point. What Is Ironic Is how he can sound so bad on a song like Yesterdays and completely redeem himself by sounding so good on Don't Cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, RONIN said: It's noticeably weakening now from what I saw of the Paris vids. "Yesterdays" was pretty deflated vocally. The touring seems to be taking its toll. Makes me wonder how he's going to get through the next 30+ odd shows. If he can complete this tour with no cancellations and without incident - it would be unprecedented and a huge move towards repairing his reputation. He's going to have to dig deep and finish out the tour as best he can. Those final arena shows in the US might get pretty rough... Axl will find a second wind soon, but it won't be in Europe...I think he's going to have a considerably good US arena leg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just updating this great thread we need a return to form from Axl like this...it's so great to listen to this version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onurbayrak03 Posted July 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2017 23 hours ago, gt72 said: In my opinion he's passable still.If you compare him to David lee Roth ,Vince Neil he's great .Those 2 are finished I seen live in the last couple years and they were awful it ruined the show for me .Axl can still pull it off .Look he's 55 no way no how is he going to sound like he did 20-30 years ago.Bono doesn't ,Hetfield doesn't no one does .Eddie Vedder still sounds great to my ears live .Anthony Keidis sounds almost as good as he did years ago.But most off if not all of the bands I've seen with 20 -25 years in between the first time and now have lost a bit of power .Time is undefeated. THERE IS NO ONE WHO ASKS HIM TO SOUND AS 20 YEARS AGO. God, 2010 was 7 years ago, and Axl DC was last year. Stop saying he got old. He is still capable 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Anyone else feel like we might get a Philly 2012 repeat in St Louis in a couple weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) Seeing them in Las Vegas twice last year was one of the best experiences of my life, and I can die a happy man. Having them walk on stage again in London gave me goosebumps yet again. However, I've seen a bunch of European shows now, and while Slash absolutely kills it, Axl's voice is just really dragging me down. I'll enjoy the shit out of Nijmegen with a bunch of friends, but I'm probably done buying tickets in advance from now on. Need to check out some YouTube vids to analyze Axl's voice and first and decide to buy (a) ticket(s) on the secondary market. Edit= unless AFD5 of course Edited July 9, 2017 by The Black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockethebastard Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Perhaps he signed off on some papers before the AC/DC tour that leaves all the recording rights to Angus. So Axl can't know what performance will be released as a live record, so he has to bring it every show just in case. Maybe he's saving his voice for the 30th AFD anniversary? Maybe he lost it, the AC/DC tour might have done damage... Edited July 10, 2017 by jockethebastard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jockethebastard said: Perhaps he signed off on some papers before the AC/DC tour that leaves all the recording rights to Angus. So Axl can't know what performance will be released as a live record, so he has to bring it every show just in case. Maybe he's saving his voice for the 30th AFD anniversary? Maybe he lost it, the AC/DC tour might have done damage... Well...his voice was cracking a bit during the last couple Axl/DC shows. I don't think touring with AC/DC for more than a handful of dates is sustainable for Axl - that type of singing is brutal, he's literally screaming from start to finish on every song! Edited July 10, 2017 by RONIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockethebastard Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 On 2017-07-08 at 3:25 PM, IncitingChaos said: Far from screaming pure control, beautiful vocals...I could go on and on Videos like these that keeps my hope up. He has total control and the low/middle parts that a lot of folks say was gone is clearly there. That second video is just amazing, the sound is really clear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1989 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I think it has allot to do with the fact that he had to learn ACDC songs from scratch using 2016 Axl vocal capabilities. Whereas he still tires to sing GnR songs the way he did in the 90's which he cant hence the poor vocals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Several people who claim to have a decent knowledge of vocal stuff have said that his Axl/DC singing is sustainable but I just don't buy it. If it really was sustainable then why wouldn't he be bringing it for Guns? My guess is that the only reason he was even able to do Axl/DC was because he basically took his prime years off from 1993-2006. Thirteen years of his 30s and 40s (not counting handful of 2002 dates where he sang clean and super-safe). But if he tried to sing like 2010/Axl/DC consistently I think he'd be fried in a couple years. Assuming he'd like to go another ten years or so then he's gotta pick his spots. Edited July 10, 2017 by Jordan Rose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Rather simple explanation for why Axl sounds worse than he did last year- he had a vocal coach around the AC/DC dates and was getting consistent conditioning. Notice how around the SA leg his voice was significantly worse than the prior leg, since AC/DC finished about a month or two before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 9 hours ago, jockethebastard said: Videos like these that keeps my hope up. He has total control and the low/middle parts that a lot of folks say was gone is clearly there. That second video is just amazing, the sound is really clear. Here's a clearer sounding version of the first one Also a couple other great performances from Axl that don't involve screaming simply great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 We have another show tonight. Let's hope Axl bounces back on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, Pedrolg said: We have another show tonight. Let's hope Axl bounces back on this one. I saw about 10 seconds of Jungle on their Instagram story and Axl was a bit mickeyish..not strong tonight (obviously a very small sample size but...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: I saw about 10 seconds of Jungle on their Instagram story and Axl was a bit mickeyish..not strong tonight (obviously a very small sample size but...) Overall, the tone on his clean voice is a bit less mickeyish. Still, a hard time finding the rasp, even when he clearly looks for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Pedrolg said: Overall, the tone on his clean voice is a bit less mickeyish. Still, a hard time finding the rasp, even when he clearly looks for it. I had Yesterdays with a stronger clean voice but it's like he's not even trying on Coma...which I get it it's a tough song, but atleast sound like you care, even if you have to miss a line Bc you need to catch your breath...sounds like he's just mumbling the lines at times. Either way I don't think tonight's the night we see anything improve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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