Axlr0s37 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 At download 2018, his voice was the usual up and down. He absolutely nailed shadow of your love. Pissed there isn't a pro shot of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The voice cracks are here to stay. But nonetheless it was still a solid show. Mickey sounded powerful a lot of times. For this being the first show, it was OK I guess. He will get better but as someone above said, I'm not expecting 2016 vocals. The Austin City Limits livestream could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAU3R Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I already wrote that in the show thread: I've only listened to Jungle and PC so far, the rasp seems to be not there, but his clean voice sounds strong.. The clean voice on PC sounds almost as strong as in 2016 which I prefer to the forced and uncontrolled rasp of the US shows in 2017 I think we should all accept that ageing sucks and he won't sound like 2006 or 2010 anymore, let alone the 90s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Listened to lots of the past few shows, and sadly Axl doesn't sound great. It's serviceable enough that I think he can still perform, but it's just not good. It's telling that he gave up TIL completely, as it used to be kind of his solo spot. He knows he has limitations at this point. I'd say his current level of performance is probably worse than 2012-2014. It's one of the two things a) he came back with a point to prove in 2016, is pushing himself as far as he can but his voice is deteriorating with age, touring with GNR and AC/DC etc or b) his strong level of performances in 2016 are solely due to AC/DC forcing him into working on his voice through that year. 2011-2014, 2017-2020 is just regular Axl aging without a shitload of vocal exercise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something.always Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, Pedrolg said: Listened to lots of the past few shows, and sadly Axl doesn't sound great. It's serviceable enough that I think he can still perform, but it's just not good. It's telling that he gave up TIL completely, as it used to be kind of his solo spot. He knows he has limitations at this point. I'd say his current level of performance is probably worse than 2012-2014. It's one of the two things a) he came back with a point to prove in 2016, is pushing himself as far as he can but his voice is deteriorating with age, touring with GNR and AC/DC etc or b) his strong level of performances in 2016 are solely due to AC/DC forcing him into working on his voice through that year. 2011-2014, 2017-2020 is just regular Axl aging without a shitload of vocal exercise Possibly he gave up TIL due to the fact that it's a pretty shit song and garners zero crowd response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabioRoses Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, something.always said: Possibly he gave up TIL due to the fact that it's a pretty shit song and garners zero crowd response. Wrong, crowd always cheers him after the first chorus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something.always Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, FabioRoses said: Wrong, crowd always cheers him after the first chorus If you say so. I guess the crowds at the 4 NITL shows I've been to are just too demanding. Like most CD songs, the majority of the crowds have no idea what TIL is. Yeah, they might clap but they're still not recognizing the song. And that doesn't change the fact that it's a pretty shit song that rhymes too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabioRoses Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, something.always said: If you say so. I guess the crowds at the 4 NITL shows I've been to are just too demanding. Like most CD songs, the majority of the crowds have no idea what TIL is. Yeah, they might clap but they're still not recognizing the song. And that doesn't change the fact that it's a pretty shit song that rhymes too much. Well, here in South America we all know TIL and there were great reactions to the song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) I forgot about this thread! but TIL was excellent in 2016. It was Axl’s solo spot and he nailed it, his voice sounded brilliant here and the crowd was very appreciative. (55:20 here) then in 2017 he couldn’t do it anymore. Voice let him down it seems Edited October 23, 2019 by IncitingChaos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I definitely think that it is just a case of him not being able to maintain those vocals throughout a three hour set and still sing comfortably. Marry that with running around stage for those three hours and you can see why he chooses to sing the way he does. I'm exhausted after running nevermind having to sing and do the proper breathing required to sing properly whilst doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42è BCP Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Axl did a solid TIL in Paris in 2017, the crowd applauded a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 hours ago, something.always said: Possibly he gave up TIL due to the fact that it's a pretty shit song and garners zero crowd response. Up until 2017 it always got a good crowd response, wtf are you talking about? Vegas '16 and Seattle '16 he sounded really good on TIL, I'd even say that Seattle 2016 might have been the best performance of that song on the whole NITL tour. And the crowd was definitely cheering for him (especially after the first chorus). When I saw them in 2017 he did botch it though... in Vancouver he honestly looked pissed off at himself for fucking it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Difference between TIL in 2016 and the last few times it was performed in 2018 was night and day. It was hard to listen to at the Tallinn and Oslo shows I went to in 2018, but great at Toronto in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaanzer Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 11 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: I forgot about this thread! but TIL was excellent in 2016. It was Axl’s solo spot and he nailed it, his voice sounded brilliant here and the crowd was very appreciative. (55:20 here) then in 2017 he couldn’t do it anymore. Voice let him down it seems Wow, really amazed with this version. I don't recall his voice sounding this strong on the 3 shows I attended in '16-'17 (Paris, Werchter and Graspop Metal Meeting) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Gaanzer said: Wow, really amazed with this version. I don't recall his voice sounding this strong on the 3 shows I attended in '16-'17 (Paris, Werchter and Graspop Metal Meeting) Yeah man I watched this show the other day and was like wait what?? That was pretty great! Slipped by me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFGnR Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Noticed his voice breaks into this shrill in the 'Do You Know...' WTTJ intro. His voice is pretty weak right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 Listening to live recordings from 2016 has officially become depressing. Axl sounded so fucking great back then. Coming to think of it, the only bits of the NITL where he sounded truly great were the ones around the time where he worked with AC/DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) His voice is in shambles. I really don't get it how he can keep delivering these terrible performances. I honestly can't watch it anymore. Gutted really. My favourite band becoming this. It doesn't matter if they play 3+ hours, it doesn't matter if the bring more deep cuts. As long as it sounds as terrible as this it's all irrelevant. To me at least. He KNOWS he sounds like Mickey Mouse and he's just adding that voice more and more and more and more. And the whole Mickey thing is not even a joke or an exaggeration, he actually sounds like a cartoon mouse. Literally. Terrible. Edited October 25, 2019 by Sisyphus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdinan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 With vintage GNR he created a brand that was unsustainable over time. His vocals have relied on heavy screaming and power, and that's a lot easier to do in your 20s, 30s and even early 40s than it is in your 50s. The guy is pushing 60, and there's no "rasp" coming back. He is singing everything in a thin falsetto, because that's way out of his range. It is what it is at this point. It's disappointing that a singer you like, and even once idolized basically sounds like a joke now, but let me try going to the karaoke bar when I turn 55 and try singing Sweet Child or something, it'll probably be just as dreadful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaygnr Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Im sure its been mentioned & discussed somewhere along these 80 pages BUT.....is there anything to be said for the fact that the Mickey Mouse voice is 100 times worse coming from phone videos as it is actually live?? Therefore people are blowing these Axl performances way out of proportion & this tour proves it. Iv been lucky enough to see Axl 3 times live in Ireland, 06, 2010 & 2017 Slane and could not fault his vocal performance (albeit he stormed off stage in 10' for over an hour). Anyway back to your bickering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jaygnr said: Im sure its been mentioned & discussed somewhere along these 80 pages BUT.....is there anything to be said for the fact that the Mickey Mouse voice is 100 times worse coming from phone videos as it is actually live?? Therefore people are blowing these Axl performances way out of proportion & this tour proves it. Iv been lucky enough to see Axl 3 times live in Ireland, 06, 2010 & 2017 Slane and could not fault his vocal performance (albeit he stormed off stage in 10' for over an hour). Anyway back to your bickering Dublin 2010 had some of his best vocals due to him standing still I've always been able to notice it live, sounds the same as on YouTube to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaygnr Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Amir said: Dublin 2010 had some of his best vocals due to him standing still I've always been able to notice it live, sounds the same as on YouTube to me. Actually....that's a fair point hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I'm certain that Axl would sound great on YouTube, if you have a few thousand people around singing along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The proshots tend to be the most unforgiving as vocals are high in the mix. But in 2010 he sounded amazing on those as well: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 24.10.2019 at 7:20 AM, Amir said: Difference between TIL in 2016 and the last few times it was performed in 2018 was night and day. It was hard to listen to at the Tallinn and Oslo shows I went to in 2018, but great at Toronto in 2016. That being said, TIL from Tallin was one of the best ones TILs in 2018. The ones from Berlin, Firenze or whole Asian leg were just painful Generally he seems to be worse and worse year by year unfortunately. 2016 he was pretty good, in 2017 it got worse but most of shows were still not bad. In 2018 EU leg he was terrible in Berlin, then he was ok so I hoped his shape will be better for an Asian leg. But he was terrible again. This year, he wasn’t as bad as in Berlin in any show but he sounds pretty rought and it seems like it takes a lot of effort from him to achieve the rasp. But I don’t think it’s his choice right now, he probably can‘t get much better from now. But it‘s Axl he can surprise us. And @Pedrolg you’re right. He’s worse now than in 2012-2014. And it’s a big difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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