07/20/17 - NYC - Apollo Theater

[GNRfanJen]

1 minute ago, Gold top 78 said:

I've always said that I don't see there being a AFD5 reunion tomorrow because of it overshadowing the rest of the tour. But here's one good reason why they must reunite tomorrow night  and that's closure. If the current line up is going to be the way forward for the future then make tomorrow night about AFD5. This album is about those 5 guys and if they reunited it would give everyone the reunion they asked for   After that the fans and probably the band members might get some closure and move on with current line up if that's the way forward. Obviously most people would want it to stay the original 5 but at least we would have that 1 performance if it wasn't to be. 

I like this. Think about it, yes if we get AFD5 we'd obviously want it to continue for the remainder of the tour. But with that being highly unlikely, at least we would get this 1. 

This 1 time, it's purely about the AFD5. They deserve that. 

[DutchAxl*88*]

Man, this is an exciting show coming! Is iT possible to listen to the show in europe?

i went to 12th to Nijmegen and iT was GREAT!!

 

Edited July 19, 2017 by DutchAxl*88*

[mrw80]

15 minutes ago, Sunset Boulevard said:

NO.

People have hears : they know Izzy can't play the guitar like Fortus. He just CAN'T. Izzy is not skilled enough. The guy is limited.

Izzy is Izzy and Fortus is Fortus. Richard has noting to prove to anyone. He is one of the (very) best guitar player in the world and he's been for more than 15 years.

Millions of people have hears and eyes. Millions of people have seen and heard Fortus on this NITL tour and nobody miss Izzy. Look at the stadiums all over the world? they are packed! With Fortus and without Izzy. 

Truth is the truth. That's it.

You completely missed the point. I'm saying that a large portion of the stadium crowds aren't interested in who the rhythm guitarist is. They don't know who izzy or Richard are. 

[Tom-Ass]

24 minutes ago, dan_axl said:

Complaints... Complaints... Complaints...

Now Guns N' Roses is:

Axl

Slash

Duff

Fortus

Reed

and Melissa.

That is the truth!! 

Seens this forum is about another band like Motley Crue or Nirvana... Only haters!! 

oh f@$% off.. No one is even complaining.. Wash that white stuff off your chin...

Edited July 19, 2017 by Tom-Ass

[mrw80]

I can't seem to post pics from my phone for whatever reason, but for those who were questioning it yesterday, The Kills themselves confirmed on twitter they'll be opening the show at 9pm. 

[RussTCB]

22 minutes ago, dan_axl said:

Complaints... Complaints... Complaints...

Now Guns N' Roses is:

Axl

Slash

Duff

Fortus

Reed

and Melissa.

That is the truth!! 

Seens this forum is about another band like Motley Crue or Nirvana... Only haters!! 

Calm yourself. 

This forum is by no means "Only haters!!". We allow opinions from fans of all eras of the band as long as they don't break the site rules.

[Tom-Ass]

6 hours ago, Sunset Boulevard said:

NO.

People have hears : they know Izzy can't play the guitar like Fortus. He just CAN'T. Izzy is not skilled enough. The guy is limited.

Izzy is Izzy and Fortus is Fortus. Richard has noting to prove to anyone. He is one of the (very) best guitar player in the world and he's been for more than 15 years.

Millions of people have hears and eyes. Millions of people have seen and heard Fortus on this NITL tour and nobody miss Izzy. Look at the stadiums all over the world? they are packed! With Fortus and without Izzy. 

Truth is the truth. That's it.

Get a grip.... There are hundreds of bootlegs out there that prove Izzy can play just fine... Fortus is lucky to have sold 5 tickets at any of these Stadium shows.. The tickets were sold because Slash was back and to a lesser extent Duff.. If Ashba was out there instead of Fortus they would have sold just as many tickets. And I do personally know people that did not attend because Izzy wasn't involved.

Either way, no one was arguing in this thread. But now a couple Fortus j&zz guzzlers are going to ruin it.  There is nothing wrong with Guns fans stating that they wish Izzy could be part of this one night.. Any sane Guns N' Roses fan would appreciate that..

Edited July 20, 2017 by Tom-Ass

[Kelmi]

Okay so.. they havent had time to rehearse with Izzy. But there is a chance that Izzy and Steven have rehearsed so that would be enough.

[GNR 1991]

How cool would it be to play only non-Appetite material from 10pm-12am, then at the stroke of midnight on the anniversary, Izzy and Steven are introduced and they rip thru the entire AFD?

 

Of course this will never happen because this band doesn't care that much.

[Zoot]

2 minutes ago, GNR 1991 said:

How cool would it be to play only non-Appetite material from 10pm-12am, then at the stroke of midnight on the anniversary, Izzy and Steven are introduced and they rip thru the entire AFD?

 

Of course this will never happen because this band doesn't care that much.

That'd be the dream scenario but this is GNR so...

Edited July 19, 2017 by Kris_1989

[Sunset Boulevard]

32 minutes ago, mrw80 said:

You completely missed the point. I'm saying that a large portion of the stadium crowds aren't interested in who the rhythm guitarist is. They don't know who izzy or Richard are. 

Fortus played a lot of LEAD guitar during the shows I went to.... much more during a 3 hours show than Izzy + Gilby (both combined) ever between 1987-1993.

It just shows the difference of level between the former players and Rich 4tus. Just day and night.

[Sith Lord]

At what time and when will Duff be doing his show?

Edited July 19, 2017 by Sith Lord

[Zoot]

2 minutes ago, Sunset Boulevard said:

Fortus played a lot of LEAD guitar during the shows I went to.... much more during a 3 hours show than Izzy + Gilby (both combined) ever between 1987-1993.

It just shows the difference of level between the former players and Rich 4tus. Just day and night.

What are you related to Fortus or something? Take it down a notch, you're being too obvious.

If you think for a second that Fortus is playing lead up there over Slash you're nuts. Slash would push Lortus's ass off the stage in a heartbeat before that'd happen.

[Silent Jay]

1 hour ago, Sunset Boulevard said:

NO.

People have hears : they know Izzy can't play the guitar like Fortus. He just CAN'T. Izzy is not skilled enough. The guy is limited.

Izzy is Izzy and Fortus is Fortus. Richard has noting to prove to anyone. He is one of the (very) best guitar player in the world and he's been for more than 15 years.

Millions of people have hears and eyes. Millions of people have seen and heard Fortus on this NITL tour and nobody miss Izzy. Look at the stadiums all over the world? they are packed! With Fortus and without Izzy. 

Truth is the truth. That's it.

I like that song from 4tus, that riff, when, you know....wait, did Fortus ever write a song?

 

Edited July 19, 2017 by Silent Jay

[ZoSoRose]

20 minutes ago, GNR 1991 said:

How cool would it be to play only non-Appetite material from 10pm-12am, then at the stroke of midnight on the anniversary, Izzy and Steven are introduced and they rip thru the entire AFD?

 

Of course this will never happen because this band doesn't care that much.

That'd be unreal

 

But it would NEVER happen

Too good of an idea for GNR. Hell, I'm surprised they came up with and pulled off the April Fool's Day unveiling

[The Holographic Universe]

56 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

Get a grip.... There are hundreds of bootlegs out there that prove Izzy can play just fine... Fortus is lucky to have sold 5 tickets at any of these Stadium shows.. The tickets were sold because Slash was back and to a lesser extent Duff.. If Ashba was out there instead of Fortus they would have sold just as many tickets. And I do personally know people that did not attend because Izzy wasn't involved.

Either way, no was arguing in this thread. But now a couple Fortus jizz cuzzlers are going to ruin it.  There is nothing wrong with Guns fans stating that they wish Izzy could be part of this one night.. Any sane Guns N' Roses fan would appreciate that..

I seriously doubt anyone didn't attend a show because izzy wasn't involved. A person might have stated that as their reason for not attending, but I dont think so. That person simply just wasn't interested in attending. As if, there were people who didn't attend an UYI tour date because Izzy or Steven wasn't in the band. Anyone states otherwise is just being melodramatic.

[Zoot]

18 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

I seriously doubt anyone didn't attend a show because izzy wasn't involved. A person might have stated that as their reason for not attending, but I dont think so. That person simply just wasn't interested in attending. As if, there were people who didn't attend an UYI tour date because Izzy or Steven wasn't in the band. Anyone states otherwise is just being melodramatic.

That's not true. I was given tickets for the San Fran show last year and sold them a week before the date because Izzy was not going to be involved. His involvement was my only reason for not attending any 2016 shows. That's not me being over dramatic or taking a shot at the other GNR guys. It's just Izzy's the reason why I found GNR's music in the first place. So seeing the band without him just seems wrong. I can't be the only one that felt that way.

Now to be transparent, my thoughts have changed and I do currently have a ticket for the Forum show. But that's only because the deaths of so many musicians last year made me feel like it's better to go see 3/5 of GNR before it's too late. As morbid as that is.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Kris_1989

[Hollywood Gunner]

i dont get how anyone can compare izzy to fortus. richard might be an extremely skilled guitarist but izzy is almost a rock god. having written most of the gnr hits puts him above and beyond where richard will ever be. not knockin the guy but thats the truth. izzy just had this fucking coolness about him that some of the younger crowd will never understand. and i remember when gnr did not have a setlist. i strictly remember an old interview where duff was critisizing other bands for having the same set list every night and how gnr would just pick shit randomly. that was also pretty fucking cool. i dont give a fuck if the rythm guitarist misses a few notes, the band made up for that stuff with their overall awesomeness... now what we have is this machine like repitition and id like to see them break the mold

Edited July 19, 2017 by Hollywood Gunner

[cqleonardo]

you have to be a real crying baby to not attend a Guns N' Roses show just because that retarded isn't on the current lineup. My expectations for this gig is a full AFD being played

[janrichmond]

15 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

I seriously doubt anyone didn't attend a show because izzy wasn't involved. A person might have stated that as their reason for not attending, but I dont think so. That person simply just wasn't interested in attending. As if, there were people who didn't attend an UYI tour date because Izzy or Steven wasn't in the band. Anyone states otherwise is just being melodramatic.

I didn't go to any shows until Slash returned so why wouldn't  Izzy fans do the same? 

[JustanUrchin]

11 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

I doubt it. Having Izzy and Steven there would completely undermine the NITL tour and the semi-reunited lineup. Everybody would be asking why they weren't there previously, or why they wouldn't be there on the next American leg. It would be unwise to shoot oneself in the foot like that, and while GN'R's management isn't exactly a shining beacon of intelligence, i doubt they would be stupid enough to pay a larger amount of money to have Izzy and Steven for a night, only to damage the current standing of the band and the NITL tour.

Rumor has it that tomorrow is the celebration of AFD.  That means the five individuals who signed a recording K with Geffen, formed a p’ship, registered said p’ship and marks, and wrote, recorded and toured one of the most iconic albums in rock history.  Oh, and it was (and will forever remain) the #1 selling debut album of all-time.  For comparative purposes, next year is the 10-year anniversary of my team’s WS championship.  I can guarantee you that no one, quite literally, would accept Middelton, the Bucks or Montgomery trotting out anything less than ALL 25 living members of that squad EXCEPT Jayson Werth who’s playing for another team.  And that includes no stunt doubles or look-a-likes.  Everyone knows Phillies fans would n-e-v-e-r accept such a fraud, and ESPECIALLY if Middleton, the Bucks or Montgomery refused to bring back all 25 for pecuniary gain.  They’d be figuratively lynched for even considering such a fraud, and no one would give another hard-earned dollar to that franchise except for the random ownership apologist.

To the above quote.  How anyone can post, contrary to known public fact, legal impossibility with such conviction is nothing short of stupefying.  Slash has his own separate management and counsel.  Duff has his own separate management and counsel.  The singer is ‘managed’ by live-ins.  Gn’R is a trademark.  Gn’R is NOT a “band” consisting of S/D/A and AR’s employees (the what-have-yous on “keys,” Adler’s fourth replacement and the Izzy look-a-like).  The singer has owned that mark since NYE ’95 when he quit Original Gn’R (“Leaving Partner”) to form “a new band” and “a new p’ship” (quoting the singer’s legal notice and averments in pleadings).  Anyone reading any post referencing ‘Gn’R management’ immediately knows that whatever follows such an assertion is fictional because there is no ‘Gn’R management.’

Adler will be rockin his authentic swing and party feel to HIS songs.  But what about Izzy?  And what about you, the AFD fan?  Will you continue to line the pockets of S/D/A this fall by purchasing trinkets and $300 tickets to listen to 30-year old songs performed by 3 originals and their cover band?  There is no quarter of a billion dollar tour, trinketfest, and synch/licensing extravaganza without AFD just as there was no ’08 WS championship without those 25 Phillies.

AFD was and is authentic.  It is timeless.  What about tomorrow?  Have S/D/A, with their pot (now mountain) of gold, agreed to compensate/split the loot with that final fifth to man his side of the stage tomorrow for HIS songs?  Forget about LN and American arenas this fall, tomorrow is a S/D/A decision promoted by Sirius as a AFD celebration.

[Original]

If we don't have an AFD reunion now will we ever?   And I hope that Frank/Melissa/Dizzy and Fortus are there only to watch/support/learn.  Like put em in a nice suite etc...

[annabanana]

1 hour ago, Sunset Boulevard said:

NO.

People have hears : they know Izzy can't play the guitar like Fortus. He just CAN'T. Izzy is not skilled enough. The guy is limited.

Izzy is Izzy and Fortus is Fortus. Richard has noting to prove to anyone. He is one of the (very) best guitar player in the world and he's been for more than 15 years.

Millions of people have hears and eyes. Millions of people have seen and heard Fortus on this NITL tour and nobody miss Izzy. Look at the stadiums all over the world? they are packed! With Fortus and without Izzy. 

Truth is the truth. That's it.

Izzy can't play? What made you say that? Being the only one who released something recently he seems to be able to play just fine

[annabanana]

12 minutes ago, cqleonardo said:

you have to be a real crying baby to not attend a Guns N' Roses show just because that retarded isn't on the current lineup. My expectations for this gig is a full AFD being played

Retarded? Wow! Coming from someone who can't respect another persons right to watch a show or not and calling her a crybaby! Someone who can't respect another freedom to choose is the retarded one!

[Silent Jay]

25 minutes ago, JustanUrchin said:

Rumor has it that tomorrow is the celebration of AFD.  That means the five individuals who signed a recording K with Geffen, formed a p’ship, registered said p’ship and marks, and wrote, recorded and toured one of the most iconic albums in rock history.  Oh, and it was (and will forever remain) the #1 selling debut album of all-time.  For comparative purposes, next year is the 10-year anniversary of my team’s WS championship.  I can guarantee you that no one, quite literally, would accept Middelton, the Bucks or Montgomery trotting out anything less than ALL 25 living members of that squad EXCEPT Jayson Werth who’s playing for another team.  And that includes no stunt doubles or look-a-likes.  Everyone knows Phillies fans would n-e-v-e-r accept such a fraud, and ESPECIALLY if Middleton, the Bucks or Montgomery refused to bring back all 25 for pecuniary gain.  They’d be figuratively lynched for even considering such a fraud, and no one would give another hard-earned dollar to that franchise except for the random ownership apologist.

To the above quote.  How anyone can post, contrary to known public fact, legal impossibility with such conviction is nothing short of stupefying.  Slash has his own separate management and counsel.  Duff has his own separate management and counsel.  The singer is ‘managed’ by live-ins.  Gn’R is a trademark.  Gn’R is NOT a “band” consisting of S/D/A and AR’s employees (the what-have-yous on “keys,” Adler’s fourth replacement and the Izzy look-a-like).  The singer has owned that mark since NYE ’95 when he quit Original Gn’R (“Leaving Partner”) to form “a new band” and “a new p’ship” (quoting the singer’s legal notice and averments in pleadings).  Anyone reading any post referencing ‘Gn’R management’ immediately knows that whatever follows such an assertion is fictional because there is no ‘Gn’R management.’

Adler will be rockin his authentic swing and party feel to HIS songs.  But what about Izzy?  And what about you, the AFD fan?  Will you continue to line the pockets of S/D/A this fall by purchasing trinkets and $300 tickets to listen to 30-year old songs performed by 3 originals and their cover band?  There is no quarter of a billion dollar tour, trinketfest, and synch/licensing extravaganza without AFD just as there was no ’08 WS championship without those 25 Phillies.

AFD was and is authentic.  It is timeless.  What about tomorrow?  Have S/D/A, with their pot (now mountain) of gold, agreed to compensate/split the loot with that final fifth to man his side of the stage tomorrow for HIS songs?  Forget about LN and American arenas this fall, tomorrow is a S/D/A decision promoted by Sirius as a AFD celebration.

Great post. You should come here more often man.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Silent Jay