janrichmond Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 TBH i don't care if it is a cash grab, just enjoy it.Nothing lasts forever... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, janrichmond said: TBH i don't care if it is a cash grab, just enjoy it.Nothing lasts forever... ...in the cold November Rain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, DieselDaisy said: ...in the cold November Rain. well that song does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 They are a band of musicians. Musicians generally enjoy touring. Axl isn't an artist who likes sharing music with his fans, but he seems to enjoy being on the road playing music. And, like every person in the world, they boys in the band want to get paid and make money. So the probably answer to your question is......both. They enjoy touring and enjoy making millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/16/2017 at 4:35 PM, tremolo said: Add a pinch or 2 of greed to the mix and voilà! Give me a break. They abuse capitalism. Floor tickets are just ridiculous. And who in the fuck wants to sit at a GNR show? So now the pit is full of beautiful people, hot dumb broads, and a handful of fans who broke the pig. Let the true fans fill the seats so it looks full. Fuck that. Neither of you know what capitalism is, but I can assure you , no one is "abusing capitalism", it's very nature is a merciless abuser which is why working class people are shut out of everything, including where you would like to be during the shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOS--LOA Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Is there any indication either way as to whether they'll shake up the setlist for the arena run? I would like to catch MSG but I really don't need to see the same exact show for a 4th time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Even after a year+ of touring we are still talking about cash grab? If I could sold out stadium every 2 nights, and as bonus, having fun on stage with my old pals, I would do it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 8:16 PM, Fanboy said: If I could sold out stadium every 2 nights, and as bonus, having fun on stage with my old pals, I would do it But would it be the same setlist almost every night? Just curious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgeboz Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 It's clearly an indication that they are going to use arenas as rehearsal spaces for a new album... They need closed spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 8:16 AM, Fanboy said: Even after a year+ of touring we are still talking about cash grab? If I could sold out stadium every 2 nights, and as bonus, having fun on stage with my old pals, I would do it This basically just like Baz answer regarding cash grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbj_jam Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 It's just another excuse for King Axl to milk it a little further and stall the inevitable of being a real band that releases music, sad all he does is waste his greatest talent.. Business as usual in GNR land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientEvil80 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/16/2017 at 0:27 AM, RONIN said: This band is and will always be a total clusterfuck. Period. The absolute refusal under any circumstance to release new music, demos or any GnR documentaries, live shows, etc is mind boggling. If not for youtube and the fan bootlegs floating around, GnR would have almost zero presence in our collective conscious aside from some shitty overpriced merch and the odd nostalgia tour when Team Brazil needs to make a rent payment. Is this really what Axl and his legal team fought so bitterly over in the 90's with Slash and Duff? To take GnR and bury it six feet under? I thought Axl wanted to ensure the ultimate survival of GnR? This is how you do it? By releasing nothing for 25 years aside from one album and a demo on a forgotten Arnold movie? Way to go man. Incredible job running the band Axl. You ran it right off a fucking cliff. Spot fucking on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBucky Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I just checked and lower level are $175. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Money Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I hope they get their cash and go record interesting music, with or without GNR. This has been a nice couple of years that we as fans can all look back on and be glad it happened. I'm happy they're loading their bank accounts. I think it's most impressive that they're probably clearing $650,000 - 800,000 per stadium show and about $275,000 per arena show for just T-shirts/merchandise. In a couple nights of T-shirt sales alone, they're making more than Eddie Money makes in 3 years of touring casinos and beer tents at state fairs. This tour is very, very profitable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 12 hours ago, tremolo said: I call bs on those Toronto ACC ticket prices. 3 hours ago, GoBucky said: I just checked and lower level are $175. well you both would be wrong... however very limited seats at that price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwick1 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 8/13/2017 at 9:25 AM, Bono said: No it indicates two things. Outdoor stadium season is over at that time of year so that eliminates a lot of stadium options and 2 they can't continue touring stadiums in North America based on nostalgia alone. They can't sell them out and half empty stadiums create a horrible vibe. They're milking it for all the money it's worth, don't kid yourself. It has nothing to do with musical or artistic integrity. Sure maybe they enjoy playing nostalgia shows but that doesn't mean anything. That's not why they're touring and we all know it. I know this is an old thread but I'm new and was reading in search of a question I have about ticket pricing. But I have to ask @Bono Really? GnR is giving fans what they want. The big 3 and performing for 3+ hours. My bet is that if you asked the gen pop what they want to hear, they'd say SCOM, WTTJ and Patience some might extend it to Paradise City and if you asked them the members of GnR they'd likely say Axl Rose and Slash. How can you criticize GnR for giving the masses what they want? For many many years the masses didn't get what they want. My thinking is that the masses can't get enough of reunion GnR and if the stadiums could have been booked for Winter '18 they would have sold out. Stadiums allow for much less expensive seating than arena. That again makes the masses happy. AFD, Axl and Slash along with Duff who they probably didn't remember and an affordable ticket $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k12 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 they are still making a shit ton of money in playing an arena, an as said you can only play a stadium in the warmer weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmardigan Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 All the biggest touring acts (U2, Springsteen, Stones etc) play both stadiums and arenas as the seasons permit. A major band may make less playing arenas than stadiums, but it’s still an assload of cash and certainly more than they would make not touring. Plus I think overhead for arenas vs stadiums is less (smaller personnel, smaller stage to transport, less security, ushers, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman5150 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Is anybody besides me surprised that they aren’t doing a US summer leg after Europe? I was hoping for the US outdoor sheds because they haven’t hit that market yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Absolutely not😂 Arena dates mean 'we can't do stadiums, but there's still a market for us'. We're not wrong Calling it a cashgrab, but to be fair to GnR, every (big) band does this; there's far too much incentive to go out and play when there's money to be made. If they tour again with the same list of songs however, that's more of a red mark on their record (we won't bring up records though😉). Not even a major overhaul, but a rotation of the opening songs, a few alternate songs spotted in there and the show would be exciting again. I think I'll fall asleep 3 songs in if it's the same old, same old... Not to be negative 😁 Edited April 8, 2018 by Tom2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 And these guys are gonna be working together for years to come. Anyone worried about gnr shutting up shop need not worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Gunner Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 izzy not being there cuz of the "loot" indicates its a cash grab... not wanting to split the pie 5 ways is low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Money is always a factor when bands tour. Unless a band does it for charity, they're doing it for money...lol....that goes for every band, like ever. That said, the fact that the average show is now 3+ hours with multiple deep-cuts mixed in shows that they do care about putting on a good show and giving fans their money's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swedish Posted April 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2018 In my opinion the lenght of the shows makes the NITL Tour less of a cashgrab! There's for sure cashgrab elements to the tour but I would not call it a full on cashgrab. Had the shows been 90 minutes long I would agree but a band that just wants to make a quick buck does not play for almost 4 hours night after night! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Hollywood Gunner said: izzy not being there cuz of the "loot" indicates its a cash grab... not wanting to split the pie 5 ways is low Izzy, unlike the other 3- sold his share when he quit. All that is known is that Izzy and GNR couldn't come to an agreement that everyone was happy with, his now-deleted tweet didn't describe or encompass the entire situation. It costs money to tour, why pour all that cash into a tour that were not going to be profitable? People seem to think musicians should be altruistic with their profession, when they themselves wouldn't think of doing their jobs for free. Edited April 9, 2018 by RazorGunner 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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