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They are a band of musicians. Musicians generally enjoy touring. Axl isn't an artist who likes sharing music with his fans, but he seems to enjoy being on the road playing music. 

And, like every person in the world, they boys in the band want to get paid and make money. 

So the probably answer to your question is......both. They enjoy touring and enjoy making millions. 

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On 8/16/2017 at 4:35 PM, tremolo said:

Add a pinch or 2 of greed to the mix and voilà!

Give me a break. They abuse capitalism.

Floor tickets are just ridiculous. And who in the fuck wants to sit at a GNR show? So now the pit is full of beautiful people, hot dumb broads, and a handful of fans who broke the pig. Let the true fans fill the seats so it looks full.

 

Fuck that.

Neither of you know what capitalism is, but I can assure you , no one is "abusing capitalism", it's very nature is a merciless abuser which is why working class people are shut out of everything, including where you would like to be during the shows.

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On 8/16/2017 at 0:27 AM, RONIN said:

This band is and will always be a total clusterfuck. Period.

The absolute refusal under any circumstance to release new music, demos or any GnR documentaries, live shows, etc is mind boggling. If not for youtube and the fan bootlegs floating around, GnR would have almost zero presence in our collective conscious aside from some shitty overpriced merch and the odd nostalgia tour when Team Brazil needs to make a rent payment.

Is this really what Axl and his legal team fought so bitterly over in the 90's with Slash and Duff? To take GnR and bury it six feet under? I thought Axl wanted to ensure the ultimate survival of GnR? This is how you do it? By releasing nothing for 25 years aside from one album and a demo on a forgotten Arnold movie? Way to go man. Incredible job running the band Axl. You ran it right off a fucking cliff.

Spot fucking on.

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I hope they get their cash and go record interesting music, with or without GNR.  This has been a nice couple of years that we as fans can all look back on and be glad it happened.  I'm happy they're loading their bank accounts.  I think it's most impressive that they're probably clearing $650,000 - 800,000 per stadium show and about $275,000 per arena show for just T-shirts/merchandise.  In a couple nights of T-shirt sales alone, they're making more than Eddie Money makes in 3 years of touring casinos and beer tents at state fairs.  This tour is very, very profitable.  

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On 8/13/2017 at 9:25 AM, Bono said:

No it indicates two things. Outdoor stadium season is over at that time of year so that eliminates a lot of stadium options and 2 they can't continue touring stadiums in North America based on nostalgia alone. They can't sell them out and half empty stadiums create a horrible vibe.  They're milking it for all the money it's worth, don't kid yourself.  It has nothing to do with musical or artistic integrity. Sure maybe they enjoy playing nostalgia shows but that doesn't mean anything. That's not why they're touring and we all know it.

I know this is an old thread but I'm new and was reading in search of a question I have about ticket pricing. But I have to ask @Bono Really? GnR is giving fans what they want. The big 3 and performing for 3+ hours. My bet is that if you asked the gen pop what they want to hear, they'd say SCOM, WTTJ and Patience some might extend it to Paradise City and if you asked them the members of GnR they'd likely say Axl Rose and Slash.  How can you criticize GnR for giving the masses what they want? For many many years the masses didn't get what they want. My thinking is that the masses can't get enough of reunion GnR and if the stadiums could have been booked for Winter '18 they would have sold out. Stadiums allow for much less expensive seating than arena. That again makes the masses happy. AFD, Axl and Slash along with Duff who they probably didn't remember and an affordable ticket $. 

 

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All the biggest touring acts (U2, Springsteen, Stones etc) play both stadiums and arenas as the seasons permit. 

A major band may make less playing arenas than stadiums, but it’s still an assload of cash and certainly more than they would make not touring. Plus I think overhead for arenas vs stadiums is less (smaller personnel, smaller stage to transport, less security, ushers, etc)

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Absolutely not😂 Arena dates mean 'we can't do stadiums, but there's still a market for us'.

We're not wrong Calling it a cashgrab, but to be fair to GnR, every (big) band does this; there's far too much incentive to go out and play when there's money to be made.

If they tour again with the same list of songs however, that's more of a red mark on their record (we won't bring up records though😉). Not even a major overhaul, but a rotation of the opening songs, a few alternate songs spotted in there and the show would be exciting again. I think I'll fall asleep 3 songs in if it's the same old, same old... Not to be negative 😁

 

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Money is always a factor when bands tour.  Unless a band does it for charity, they're doing it for money...lol....that goes for every band, like ever.

That said, the fact that the average show is now 3+ hours with multiple deep-cuts mixed in shows that they do care about putting on a good show and giving fans their money's worth. 

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12 hours ago, Hollywood Gunner said:

izzy not being there cuz of the "loot" indicates its a cash grab... not wanting to split the pie 5 ways is low

Izzy, unlike the other 3- sold his share when he quit. 

All that is known is that Izzy and GNR couldn't come to an agreement that everyone was happy with, his now-deleted tweet didn't describe or encompass the entire situation. 

It costs money to tour, why pour all that cash into a tour that were not going to be profitable? People seem to think musicians should be altruistic with their profession, when they themselves wouldn't think of doing their jobs for free. 

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