Free Bird Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Top-Hatted One said: Ronin is right as this dates back to VR. Scott said the GNR guys were trying to get Guns back together either before or after they released Libertad. Probably before as that album was rushed out due to label obligations. That's when Scott started looking inti getting STP back together. Scott said a lot of weird things in the past There are so many discrepancies in so many of the past interviews by all band members and by people around the band. Too many contrary rumors. Too much bullshit. By all accounts there's reason enough for everybody on here to believe what ever the fuck he wants. I don't think we'll ever hear the actual truth if there is an actual truth. Edited December 4, 2017 by Free Bird 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted December 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, PatrickS77 said: Again. Just for the money there would be no reason for Slash and co. at all to get along and socialize with TB. The money rolling in has nothing to do with them getting along with TB. I don't think so. Getting along with TB is a kind of prerequisite in order to get along and work with Axl. TB are the people who are closest to him, having the double role of being his surrogate family and management, and everything Axl related passes through them. If Slash and Duff were hostile or "cold" towards them, the reunion wouldn't have gone so smoothly. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Canter called some members on this board Assholes! Lol awesome. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: I don't think so. Getting along with TB is a kind of prerequisite in order to get along and work with Axl. TB are the people who are closest to him, having the double role of being his surrogate family and management, and everything Axl related passes through them. If Slash and Duff were hostile or "cold" towards them, the reunion wouldn't have gone so smoothly. Sorry. But that's bs. Once contracts are signed and you can believe that there have been shitloads of waterproof contracts signed, they wouldn't have to deal with anyone of TB if they didn't want to and didn't like them. I think the importance of TB is greatly overestimated. Once Duff and Axl was talking it was over, as far as any real influence and prevention of this to happen was concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientEvil80 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 As always, great to hear from Marc. Just don't agree about GNR being the big stadium beast. They ALWAYS sounded better in clubs. And even now, they would sound/look better in small clubs. Just get rid of the aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, AncientEvil80 said: As always, great to hear from Marc. Just don't agree about GNR being the big stadium beast. They ALWAYS sounded better in clubs. And even now, they would sound/look better in small clubs. Just get rid of the aliens. I also was wondering why Marc said that. I also think its odd that Marc, who is something like a superfan and wanted this reunion/threeunion so much, wouldn't go to the first Troubadour show in 2016. I wonder what went down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, AncientEvil80 said: As always, great to hear from Marc. Just don't agree about GNR being the big stadium beast. They ALWAYS sounded better in clubs. And even now, they would sound/look better in small clubs. Just get rid of the aliens. He also said he prefers seeing them on a bigger stage. Axl and Slash running jumping around. As for sound yea this current band isn't tight enough sonically for a smaller stage as we've seen from the 2 clubs shows. You can only turn the volume up so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tori72 said: I also was wondering why Marc said that. I also think its odd that Marc, who is something like a superfan and wanted this reunion/threeunion so much, wouldn't go to the first Troubadour show in 2016. I wonder what went down there. Well. I think the fact is, Marc Canter is just not that important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tori72 said: I also was wondering why Marc said that. I also think its odd that Marc, who is something like a superfan and wanted this reunion/threeunion so much, wouldn't go to the first Troubadour show in 2016. I wonder what went down there. Yea I find it hard to believe he was one of the fortunate people to have a ticket and gave it away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, AncientEvil80 said: As always, great to hear from Marc. Just don't agree about GNR being the big stadium beast. They ALWAYS sounded better in clubs. And even now, they would sound/look better in small clubs. Just get rid of the aliens. But that was his entire point. Because of the aliens it's a whole new beast that fits better in a big stadium. If you remove those his point no longer applies so he's correct. With that many people you can't really go around much in a smaller venue. Edited December 4, 2017 by StrangerInThisTown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: Well. I think the fact is, Marc Canter is just not that important. I think he is still somewhat relevant to the GNR guys unlike Vicky for example who seems to try to cash in on their old relationship 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: Well. I think the fact is, Marc Canter is just not that important. In what way? He recorded pretty much every show before they even got AFD out and took tons of photos and has a lot of stories to tell since he was behind the scenes. He has all that rehearsal footage that was never released of them putting together songs, the first time they played Perfect Crime in 86 and it goes on and on. He might be the most important guy when it comes to a non biased perspective on Guns since every one of the guys has their own twisted, drugged out perspective. Edited December 4, 2017 by StrangerInThisTown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said: In what way? He recorded pretty much every show before they even got AFD out and took tons of photos and has a lot of stories to tell since he was behind the scenes. He has all that rehearsal footage that was never released of them putting together songs, the first time they played Perfect Crime in 86 and it goes on and on. He might be the most important guy when it comes to a non biased perspective on Guns since every one of the guys has their own twisted, drugged out perspective. Yes. But that was 30 years ago. Now is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, PatrickS77 said: Yes. But that was 30 years ago. Now is now. That's right. Adding the keyword "anymore" to your assessment would then make it correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said: That's right. Adding the keyword "anymore" to your assessment would then make it correct. I'm not sure I would need to add that. I mean, from the band's point of view, how does him taking pictures and recording shows make him important for the band?? I think he's more important from the fans point of view than from the band's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said: In what way? He recorded pretty much every show before they even got AFD out and took tons of photos and has a lot of stories to tell since he was behind the scenes. He has all that rehearsal footage that was never released of them putting together songs, the first time they played Perfect Crime in 86 and it goes on and on. He might be the most important guy when it comes to a non biased perspective on Guns since every one of the guys has their own twisted, drugged out perspective. Spot on👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 hours ago, PatrickS77 said: Sorry. But are you having a stroke each time you're posting? I have no idea what you're saying. How about gathering your thoughts before posting? She puts her Spanish thoughts into the Google translating box and it comes out like that: a mess. Just replace all of her "what" for "that" and it will be more legible. In Spanish we have only one word for "that" and "what". That's why the translator can't figure it out right 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Blackstar said: I don't think so. Getting along with TB is a kind of prerequisite in order to get along and work with Axl. TB are the people who are closest to him, having the double role of being his surrogate family and management, and everything Axl related passes through them. If Slash and Duff were hostile or "cold" towards them, the reunion wouldn't have gone so smoothly. Yeah, it looks to me that TB works as a filter to Axl..... He uses them as a filter to not let people get to him so easily.... They are the guardians of his doors, like rottweilers- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 22 minutes ago, Ratam said: Spot on👍 And why would they want someone from the outside contradicting and offering a different view from what they are saying? That is only important to the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Oldest Goat said: @Ratam Tortuga ninja? No te preocupes por tus habilidades de ingles. Me diverte mucho y es encantador. Thanks@Oldestgoat you speak better spanish what l english😆👍👊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: And why would they want someone from the outside contradicting and offering a different view from what they are saying? That is only important to the fan. Glad me you understad my write "spot on"😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Oldest Goat said: Gracias. Si, me gradue con honores de Google Translate University. 😂out of likes,pero lo utilizas mejor que yo a Google Translate 😅👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Every (great) band is better in a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Oldest Goat said: Eres muy amable, amiga de mi tortuga! Y lo de Ninja comenzo precisamente por mi mal english ,entre tu y @Janerichmond, no se si tu recuerdas? 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 32 minutes ago, killuridols said: She puts her Spanish thoughts into the Google translating box and it comes out like that: a mess. Just replace all of her "what" for "that" and it will be more legible. In Spanish we have only one word for "that" and "what". That's why the translator can't figure it out right Te agradezco tu explicacion a @PatrickS77✊ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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