StrangerInThisTown Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Just came across this article from late August this year and I don't think I've seen it posted here, it's Micks side of what happened between him and Axl and how they went from friendly to "enemies" in 1990. This was written in 1998, very interesting read. http://teamrock.com/feature/2017-08-28/guns-n-roses-get-in-the-ring-mick-wall Edited December 4, 2017 by StrangerInThisTown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Nygma Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Geez. 25 years later and Wall is still milking that same cow. Wasn't it Duff's idea for the GITR rant? We got his unauthorised biopic about Axl, numerous classic rock magazine articles about GITR & GnR written by Wall, and a GNR book released last year. Edited December 4, 2017 by Edward Nigma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Axl's biggest mistake was immortalizing this hack of a journalist. Should have never done that Get in the Ring rant. This guy deserves zero attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Edward Nigma said: Geez. 25 years later and Wall is still milking that same cow. Wasn't it Duff's idea for the GITR rant? We got his unauthorised biopic about Axl, numerous classic rock magazine articles about GITR & GnR written by Wall, and a GNR book released last year. Yes you be right,was Duff idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Definition of rock journalism: People who can't write, doing interviews with people who can't think, in order to prepare articles for people who can't read. Sounds like Mick thought he was in the band early in.... His books are TERRIBLE and inaccurate, his grasp of language is terrible, he gets fixated on crap (for example in the book about the doors he mentions 3-5 times that Jim Morrison liked anal sex and this made him a homo) just terrible sloppy journalism. Inaccurate & poorly researched. His books are like a copy and paste of Wikipedia and forums like this. But I do think he's telling the truth of how it went down with the interview and Axls "guns or knives" bullshit. Look at what Axl himself said about it on Shotgun Blues. Axl's all mouth and no bollocks, and his mouth is pure cringe..... You'd almost feel sorry for him while kicking his ass..... Edited December 5, 2017 by Powderfinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin82 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Im still waiting for them too do this track LIVE.....!!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Gavin82 said: Im still waiting for them too do this track LIVE.....!!!!!!!!!! Never,GNR is PC now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Wow, fantastic article!! I believe every single word of what he says because that's the way Axl operates... with anger and thugs.... so embarassing and sad for an artist to be like that. Unfortunately, all of it got reflected in the amount of years he couldn't write a thing and put out a decent album. His description of Slash and Duff demeanor leaves no doubts.... sort of how they are acting today too, huh? In Mick's words "Submitting to the master's will" Edited December 5, 2017 by killuridols 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnr5 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 hours ago, Gavin82 said: Im still waiting for them too do this track LIVE.....!!!!!!!!!! They won't do this live, the rant is not relevant anymore and to be honest Axl is not as mad as in the 90s haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, gnr5 said: They won't do this live, the rant is not relevant anymore and to be honest Axl is not as mad as in the 90s haha Agree 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadcaplaughs Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 This dude...spends more than twenty years making fun of Axl, obsessing over his two second mention in one song, and then publishes a book that, while entirely true, makes Wall look like more of a sad loser than Axl. When it looks like his last little bit of spotlight dries up, he suddenly starts talking about how he "moved on," "loves Axl," and fully supports the band. I am usually not one of those dudes who says anyone who publishes something bad about GN'R is evil, but this dude is a parasite pure and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) If Mick is lying here then its pretty good lying. Edited December 5, 2017 by -W.A.R- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadcaplaughs Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Not saying he lied about anything. I'm sure everything he said remains 100% accurate. i just think it seems kind of sad he continues to essentially live off of stuff that happened almost three decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, themadcaplaughs said: Not saying he lied about anything. I'm sure everything he said remains 100% accurate. i just think it seems kind of sad he continues to essentially live off of stuff that happened almost three decades ago. The article is from 1998 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Someone on this forum (I thankfully don't remember who) criticised me for buying Kerrang! in around 2004, because Mick Wall once wrote for them. They went as far as saying "you can't be a true GN'R fan". 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Grier's Ghost Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 9:27 AM, themadcaplaughs said: Not saying he lied about anything. I'm sure everything he said remains 100% accurate. i just think it seems kind of sad he continues to essentially live off of stuff that happened almost three decades ago. Unfortunately, you could say the same for the fan base as far as album releases go... :/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 4:11 PM, Gracii Guns said: Someone on this forum (I thankfully don't remember who) criticised me for buying Kerrang! in around 2004, because Mick Wall once wrote for them. They went as far as saying "you can't be a true GN'R fan". Few magazines did more for Guns N' Roses when they were an upcoming act in 1987 than Kerrang!. They basically gave Guns their first exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 He wrote authorized ones for Marillion and Iron Maiden but I'm sure he'll write another GNR book again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 All I know is I picked up a Mick Wall biography of Axl (believe it was called War & Roses) and read it in an aisle of a bookstore. It was completely cobble together from hearsay, internet articles, and message boards - a total hit job with zero objective authority. Plus, it was written after "Get In The Ring" was released so what's the likelihood that he would be an unbiased source on the material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucknroll Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I wonder if axl is really a tough guy. Like could he really throw down back in the day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Axl never gave a clear explanation on why Mick Wall's name was in the GITR rant. He had said though in one of his 1990/91 interviews with Kurt Loder, without naming someone, that it wasn't okay for journalists to print things he had said off the record about other bands. So I believe the reason was that interview, like Mick Wall said. Axl most likely really said those things off the record about Vince Neil. Mick Wall, however, can't prove it, because they were, well... off the record and he doesn't have Axl on tape saying them (on the record Axl said very little about that subject and wasn't that provocative); this is probably why he didn't want to give a copy of the tape to Axl. He claims that Axl gave him permission to print the off the record stuff, but there is no proof for that either. So it's one's word against the other's. Anyway, Mick Wall has been talking all these years and wrote two books (last year he renounced his Axl biography as biased) trying to get a reaction from Axl. He hasn't gotten one yet. Edited December 13, 2017 by Blackstar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use Your Delusion 1 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Thats right Bob Guccioni Jr. at Spin, you pissed off because your dad gets more pussy than you? What an awful song. Along with Shotgun Blues and My World the three worst things GNR did. Mick Wall's book on Axl (WAR) is awful. After 1990 it becomes a hatchet job. Then, post 2000 it becomes just plain inaccurate (claiming the Hammersmith Odeon show was in 2004 etc). Awful book, don't buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 06/12/2017 at 2:27 PM, themadcaplaughs said: Not saying he lied about anything. I'm sure everything he said remains 100% accurate. i just think it seems kind of sad he continues to essentially live off of stuff that happened almost three decades ago. NITL 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I don't know, when someone says "I had lots of private chats that I never spoke about" it's usually a bunch of bollix. All of this could be true, it definitely wouldn't be that out of character for Axl... but I suspect a little bit of chicanery from Wall too, the "I'm completely innocent, I just print the truth man!" shtick is a little hard to stomach given the amount of interviews he does about Axl, and the books he's written. End of the day, who gives a shit, this was a minor spat for a GNR trivia night at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 4:17 PM, Edward Nigma said: Geez. 25 years later and Wall is still milking that same cow. Wasn't it Duff's idea for the GITR rant? We got his unauthorised biopic about Axl, numerous classic rock magazine articles about GITR & GnR written by Wall, and a GNR book released last year. It's a shame they put that rant in the song. Musically, the song is a top 25% song in their catalog but the rant makes it completely dated and unplayable live....what a mistake...smh. If they ever come out with some sort of "best of" or another live album, they should redo the song without the rant...or make the rant about something general, without specifics names...Alla "Sorry". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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