Endless2404 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Express your opinion about Riad N' the Bedouins and why do you think it wasn't played after 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Honestly, I've tried to respond to this about 4 times. Keep deleting my post because I can't properly express how I feel about this song. You might be lucky if you get me and two others respond to this thread in a positive manner. The rest, if anyone else bothers, will slate it. Poor Riad gets no love but it's my everything. Thank you Axl for making it exist. Axl once said in a chat that the reason he hasn't sung it for a long time (and that was back then!) was because he didn't feel like it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Meh... not the best, but not the worst either on CD. I usually skip it when I'm feeling naughty and decide to put CD on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Besides the obvious Immigrant Song influence, musically it reminded me of Jane's Addiction musically. It'd be an interesting one to hear how the current lineup would approach it. The song is for the most part in the same register vocally too so I reckon Waxy could still make a decent go of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin Punk Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I think this song had a lot of potential as it delivers a certain level of the old guns McRiffery, verses with a great whip and rasp to them and some great moments.... but just quite missed the spot in the mix we get on CD - and that's what it is.... a chopped up mix... It didnt feel settled and mature as an actual song - The first verse kicks in with vigor but totally blows its load far too soon when the 'Oh my savaltion' being seemingly spliced in.... it's just too haphazard in how it's laid out.... and it feels unnatural.... but there are still some great bits in there, like after the 'Oh my savaltion' part, where they drop a great shuffly classic riff and into a fantastic second verse.... i mean, the lyrical twists bouncing its syllables off of the bouncy lick is fucking balls to the wal... but then there's the goddamn 'Oh my savaltion' part again.... i think my bugbear may be with this section..... it just doesnt seem to fit properly and needed some refinement in the writing of how it flows.... the half time feel is ok and the rythmn section is pretty cool.... it just doesnt float my boat.... I think the Guitar solo and especially the secondary 'Robot Solo' (around 3m33) in this tune are fucking awesome.... it was close.... but the dijointed feel and some of the sound effects lick donkey balls... I don't care where they got the intro noise from... it wasnt a bad intro, the song just tried to go too far too soon i think.... Nice topic, it's not discussed much these days... and i'd love to hear Slash and Duff's take on it live! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby845 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 One of my favorite CD songs. Just great chorus. Probably cause it's hardest one to sing along TWAT.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Worst song released under the GNR name IMHO, including counting My World. Atleast that was kind of unique and ahead of its time and let us inside the mind of Axl at the time, Rhiad has not one good thing standing out about it, even fucking Nickelback could've released that song and would've probably made it come out better. It shares worst song on CD with Scraped, but that has a badass Slither style dropped tuning climbing riff for part of the verses. Mind you the rest of the song is shit aswell, it belongs in the GNR trashcan of My World, Shotgun Blues and Rhiad. 4 bad songs isn't bad for 5 studio albums. Edited January 3, 2018 by StrangerInThisTown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I love Riad. Too my ears its the Dont Damn Me of CD. Its everything Axl promised when making CD - beefier, more progressive (continuing trend from UYIs), new sonics, but still a GNR song. The back story of the character Riad is really something. Like, theres no reason to doubt Axl about it, but whoa - what a crazy world! I long for honesty in music and lyrics. I mean a lyric can be such beautiful poetry and still be dishonest. I think "I dont give a fuck 'bout them cause I am crazy" is as honest a lyric as Axl could write at the time. I sometimes wonder if the lyrics are drawing a comparison between the shadowy figures of the criminal underworld and the shadowy figures in the music industry. Riad manipulates people and situations to drive his will and profits. Axl felt conspired against and 'wont bend his will' to the manipulation of the unseen hand of the music industry and ex band mates? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said: Worst song released under the GNR name IMHO, including counting My World. Atleast that was kind of unique and ahead of its time and let us inside the mind of Axl at the time, Rhiad has not one good thing standing out about it, even fucking Nickelback could've released that song and would've probably made it come out better. It shares worst song on CD with Scraped, but that has a badass Slither style dropped tuning climbing riff for part of the verses. Mind you the rest of the song is shit aswell, it belongs in the GNR trashcan of My World, Shotgun Blues and Rhiad. 4 bad songs isn't bad for 5 studio albums. LOL! I was wondering when this kind of post would arrive. 6 posts in...not bad. I thought we'd get it much sooner. I totally respect that people have a wildly different opinion of this song to me. I've kinda got used to being in the minority for Riad...it's like a funny little club. So far there's 3 of us... Only part I agree with is Scraped. That is an abomination, as is TIL. Those are the two songs I can't bear to listen to, not even the first note. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Only part I don't like is the solo. It's a great vocal performance by Axl 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: LOL! I was wondering when this kind of post would arrive. 6 posts in...not bad. I thought we'd get it much sooner. I totally respect that people have a wildly different opinion of this song to me. I've kinda got used to being in the minority for Riad...it's like a funny little club. So far there's 3 of us... Only part I agree with is Scraped. That is an abomination, as is TIL. Those are the two songs I can't bear to listen to, not even the first note. Oh no - you might break up the club over Scraped!! lol Outta likes, but other then Scraped both your posts are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 The chorus (the 2nd one especially) is awesome, but the rest of the song is meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, soon said: Oh no - you might break up the club over Scraped!! lol Outta likes, but other then Scraped both your posts are awesome! You HAVE to tell me what it is about Scraped you like. Seriously, what is it? Even time stamp your favourite parts, I'm willing to listen...I can't believe you like Scraped. lol Edit: no, we'll not let Scraped break up the Riad club! lol Edited January 3, 2018 by MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I actually listened to the House Of Blues version just yesterday for the first time in forever and it was better than I remembered. It's not really a bad song, but not my favourite either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Worst song on CD, simply because the "all my salvation" part is both grating and repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: You HAVE to tell me what it is about Scraped you like. Seriously, what is it? Even time stamp your favourite parts, I'm willing to listen...I can't believe you like Scraped. lol Edit: no, we'll not let Scraped break up the Riad club! lol Hahaha! It's maybe my least favourite outta the tracks I like (IRS and ITW dont do it for me) but I do enjoy it. In my mind it is paired with Riad in style and vibe. Maybe Ill have to start a Scraped thread after this one goes a bit more. I remember having shocked laughter the first time I heard the vocal intro and shaking my head like "thats our Axl" And all those bleeps - those are the money bleeps! Edited January 3, 2018 by soon typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, soon said: Hahaha! It's maybe my least favourite outta the tracks I like (IRS and ITW dont so it for me) but I do enjoy it. In my mind it is paired with Riad in style and vibe. Maybe Ill have to start a Scraped thread after this one goes a bit more. I remember having shocked laughter the first time I heard the vocal intro and shaking my head like "thats our Axl" And all those bleeps - those are the money bleeps! OK, just because its you, I'm giving this one another go. LOL Not convinced it's got a Riad vibe, but I'm going in with an open mind. I'm quite partial to Axl's bleeps so we'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 It hasn't been played because it is garbage. Then again they play songs like TWAT, Better and Prostitute so who knows... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: OK, just because its you, I'm giving this one another go. LOL Not convinced it's got a Riad vibe, but I'm going in with an open mind. I'm quite partial to Axl's bleeps so we'll see... Cool, haha! Yeah, brush up on Scraped for when the thread appears! Focus on those bleeps... its all in the bleeps lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Riad and Scraped are the worst songs on CD imo. I would also say they are two of the 3 worst gnr songs period. With My World being the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 It is a tie between this and Shackler's Revenge for turd of the album on CD. there are others floating in that Chinese toilet bowl, but these are the biggest. The intro sounds like a shit sci-fi film, the verse lyrics are garbage (how the man that penned Coma, Locomotive, Don't Damn Me etc. etc. produced this I'll never know) and the chorus is just an elongated whine. The guitar solo does start off quite well, but falls over when the "robot solo" kicks in. They should have bumped this for Oh My God on the album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'm not a CD fan yet...i'm told it grows on you...but Riad is the best of a bad bunch. I hate the ballads @MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle you can count me as 1/2 for the Riad Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I love the chord progression under the "salvation" and "lies" lyrics. And I love the vocals and drums. Great drumming, IMHO, that song has the best drumming of ANY GnR song period. It has good energy as well that I feel came from the drums and the overall pace of the song. And most important to me is the mood of the song which I really enjoy. Bumbles solo, as unique as it may be, just doesn't do a whole lot for me. The tone of the guitar is to compressed. (one of my biggest gripes of the album was way to much compression on the guitars) I like the fact that it's out of the box and unorthodox but I prefer some more structure and melody over ear candy. I don't know why the song gets so much hate, I think the only songs that fell flat on the album we're Scrapped and If the world. If they would have stuck with a more classic delivery and production of ITW and recorded it like Don't Cry it would be a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Order of Nine said: I love the chord progression under the "salvation" and "lies" lyrics. And I love the vocals and drums. Great drumming, IMHO, that song has the best drumming of ANY GnR song period. It has good energy as well that I feel came from the drums and the overall pace of the song. And most important to me is the mood of the song which I really enjoy. Bumbles solo, as unique as it may be, just doesn't do a whole lot for me. The tone of the guitar is to compressed. (one of my biggest gripes of the album was way to much compression on the guitars) I like the fact that it's out of the box and unorthodox but I prefer some more structure and melody over ear candy. I don't know why the song gets so much hate, I think the only songs that fell flat on the album we're Scrapped and If the world. If they would have stuck with a more classic delivery and production of ITW and recorded it like Don't Cry it would be a classic. Glad you mentioned the drumming. I don't have an ear for drums and even I could tell the drumming was awesome, that combined with Tommy's snarling bass is what really makes Riad for me. @janrichmond Out of likes, but welcome to the Riad Club. You can bring Slash with you at least in spirit.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: Glad you mentioned the drumming. I don't have an ear for drums and even I could tell the drumming was awesome, that combined with Tommy's snarling bass is what really makes Riad for me. @janrichmond Out of likes, but welcome to the Riad Club. You can bring Slash with you at least in spirit.. The whole album I would classify as prog rock, ESPECIALLY the production, mixed with some GNR esqe ballads. But that song in particular is completely prog rock to me especially with the drums and the rhythmic changes. All the people saying "nu metal" are clueless imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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