Popular Post Sosso Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) I know that this topic has been discussed dozens of times, but I think that another Thread can't do much harm. I think that both Izzy and Richard are talented and gifted musicians. I think about Izzy as one the best songwriters and I think about Richard and one of the very best guitarists. Edited January 17, 2018 by Sosso 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Until they release any new material... I dont think so and even if they do and it features Richard's material and it sounds good, he'll still be bashed because he is not Izzy or wasnt there in the 80s/90s. I dont think he'll ever be respected by the die hards lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 We couldn't even live on a world where both Axl and Slash had the respect they deserve until the pair reunited: fans were locked in this Axl v Slash war until 2016. Well, for 'world' read 'nerds on Guns N' Roses social media' but the argument still applies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nikki_Sixx Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 No. Izzy = GNR Fortus = NOT GNR End of discussion. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, Nikki_Sixx said: No. Izzy = GNR Fortus = NOT GNR End of discussion. I could use the "but who is in the band right now and has been for more time than Izzy" argument but again, until they release a new record everything is pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ShadowOfTheWave Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'm sorry but I respect songwriters a lot more than players. There are millions of amazing guitar players, only a handful of songwriters as good as Izzy. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, default_ said: I could use the "but who is in the band right now and has been for more time than Izzy" argument but again, until they release a new record everything is pointless. Brian Johnson was in AC/DC for over three decades, but many fans still consider Bon as their favourite singer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 "Can we live in a world were both Izzy and Richard get the respect they deserve?" -Unfortunately, not over here...To show their devotion (or their loyalty) to a particular idol, some people feel the need to attack and disrespect someone else..I don´t know maybe it´s just because they think that is the only way to validate their point of view..Yeah I know, that´s stupid but... "Do you know where you are?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Derick said: "Can we live in a world were both Izzy and Richard get the respect they deserve?" -Unfortunately, not over here...To show their devotion (or their loyalty) to a particular idol, some people feel the need to attack and disrespect someone else..I don´t know maybe it´s just because they think that is the only way to validate their point of view..Yeah I know, that´s stupid but... "Do you know where you are?". You're online motherfucker and you're gonna get slammed....j/k id like to see kimmel put past and present members of guns on the nasty twitty bit he has the guests read about themselves. That is some funny shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Well, Fortus is getting more respect than Izzy in the current GN’R FB page. Whenever people comment they miss Izzy, many will attack them, saying Izzy quit and Fortus is a fantastic player who is in the band longer, and that they should stop living in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Here we go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Well, considering Richard hasn't wrote a notable song in his entire career, on that level he isn't comparable to Izzy at all. That's not disrespectful, it's just a fact. Richard's a good guitarist though and I've got nothing against the bloke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 What gnr songs does Richard get credit for? what gnr songs does Izzy get credit for? As you answer these two questions you’ll begin to realize the truth. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunset Boulevard Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Richard can play guitar like a genius. Izzy can’t even play like an amateurish. End of story. Edited January 17, 2018 by Sunset Boulevard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sunset Boulevard said: Richard can play guitar like a genius. Izzy can’t even play like an amateurish. End of story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sosso said: Brian Johnson was in AC/DC for over three decades, but many fans still consider Bon as their favourite singer axl is by far the best singer that has graced the acdc stage 29 minutes ago, Sunset Boulevard said: Richard can play guitar like a genius. Izzy can’t even play like an amateurish. End of story. who cares - would rather see a dude that can play the songs he wrote instead of a dude noodling in the mirror Edited January 17, 2018 by double talkin jive mfkr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I don't see why we can't, but we won't. To some if things aren't exactly how they personally would it to be then damn everyone involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zoot Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 It's not really fair to compare the two. One is an accomplished songwriter, the other's biggest accomplishment is putting up with Axl for 16+ years. Richard is a good guitarist. I haven't seen too many people disagree with that. But until he writes something that resonates he's just not on the same level as Izzy. I'm not trying to shit on the guy. It just is what it is. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Izzy never jumped on stage around RiRi with guitar in his hands - so point for Fortus here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Izzy had a hand in the sound of GNR, and that will never go away. Richard is a technically good player who needs to calm down a bit with the fret wanking. He FUCKS up the start of the nightrain solo. Just play it properly and put your tits away. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Nikki_Sixx said: No. Izzy = GNR Fortus = NOT GNR End of discussion. Posts like these are the reason why we can't. All in all it comes down to if a person is mature enough to handle respect for members of different lineups at the same time. Some are - some aren't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: We couldn't even live on a world where both Axl and Slash had the respect they deserve until the pair reunited: fans were locked in this Axl v Slash war until 2016. Well, for 'world' read 'nerds on Guns N' Roses social media' but the argument still applies. I think that the conflict has shifted from Axl vs. Slash to Izzy vs. Richard, at least among the die hards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 If Fortus was a better fit for the band then yes.. But he is not.... He is a footnote... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janrichmond Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 Fortus seems like a nice guy but he just doesn't seem right for GnR. I'd rather see Gilby on rhythm if Izzy isn't there. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, double talkin jive mfkr said: axl is by far the best singer that has graced the acdc stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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