Popular Post Chunder Monkey Posted January 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Quote This permanent A list rock group Could be GNR there. Quote has apparently agreed to do something they said they'd never, ever do. Was pondering this. I don't remember a lot of "there will never be another album" statements, in fact Axl often said he wanted to release more stuff eventually. I guess it could be a reference to Axl's famous interview where he said he would have nothing to do with Slash again other than by Ambush and that it wouldn't be pretty? That could qualify for that line. This phrasing is also cute...given the 'not in this lifetime' tour etc. Quote Make another record with (most of) the original lineup. I think the tour has established that the media would accept Axl/Slash/Duff to qualify for this. Quote They just signed a deal with one of the top five most famous producers of all time to take the helm of the project. It's interesting to ponder who the top 5 producers are? In Rock terms Rubin comes to mind - but then the boys in VR fired him before hiring Brendan O'brian and then also shit talked Rubin the press. O'brian makes sense as he'd be recomended by Ac/Dc (Black Ice/Rock or Bust) for Axl - and the guys know him from VR - then again it was also their weak album they used him on - but I think they might accept some of the blame for rushing that themselves. But is he top 5? Quote Among his stipulations was that every member of the band cede control to the producer, and if any single one member of the band departs or screws up? It is over. It would be unusual for Axl to give over that type of control. Then again - he clearly suffered making CD, and he seemed to enjoy not having to call the shots in Ac/Dc, and in the chats I felt it was implied that he became CD's producer only reluctantly due to label issues. So although it sounds weird - i could imagine Axl going for this. It's also the perfect safety net for the band. Tour is where the money is. They need to keep the band alive to tour into old age. Album fights risk that - particularly with the bad blood in the past about recording/writing. I can see this system as a genius way to work on new stuff without risking it all. Appoint an umpire. Quote According to one member, no more half-hearted collaborative efforts for that band. If it is Brenan O'brian - this could refer to the Libertad process. Pretty sure Slash himself has admitted he found writing in VR hard and wasn't into it by the end. Alternatively, it could be richard suggesting that some of the later new GNR efforts around DJ's work were not well supported by everyone. Or it could be a reference to the post UYI sessions where the guys were not super into Axl's direction and also didn't want to waste the years his input might take on their stuff. Quote At this point, why would they even try? Aside from the expense of paying off past lawsuits and alimony, This fits GNR well. We know Axl had a ton of lawsuits - for pretty much the whole CD saga - especially the trouble over Azof etc. Quote Apparently all that recent concert money This is very appropriate to GNR what with their tour topping the lists last year. Overall, it's pretty optimistic to me. It would be a great idea for GNR to record, and the producer umpire idea I think would not only protect from fights, but would take the pressure of Axl, and indeed - might lift the material for end listeners as I feel both Axl and Slash are so close to what they do that they don't feel the way us fans do about single choices etc. Edited January 19, 2018 by Chunder Monkey 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 SP wouldn't make sense because they haven't toured together since the late 90s and the ''most of the original line up'' comment doesn't make sense either because Corgan has stated several times that he is only interested in continuing under the SP name if it's with all the original members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underhardy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It’s painfully obvious that this article is about GNR. The words about recent touring completely give it away. Let’s see if it’s true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 So let's say this rumour is true, and that Guns has just accepted the proposal to record a new album. How long on average do you guys think we will have to wait before a single release or the album release? I know it's almost unquantifiable, but what's the average in the industry under famous producers like Rubin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hopefullly a new single before the European tour... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Honestly NO other band fits all the "hints" like gnr does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Bluefish18 said: To me, this is the key part of the rumor: "Apparently all that recent concert money they've recently earned has reminded them they were once that good." What money has Kiss recently made from touring, that they haven't over the last 20 years? Metallica had a good tour, but when have they had to remind themselves that they were "once that good"? They're tours have been steady throughout the years. The Smashing Pumpkins? Again; what recent $$? And BC is WAY more of a control freak than Axl (OK, maybe not way more, but...) i think this is definitely about GN'R; doesn't mean it's true, but I think this is what the author was pointing to.... Spot on👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro GNR Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Is this source reliable???? Please tell me it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 After what they’ve been through (especially Axl), they wouldn’t give overall power to some producer, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Gackt said: I like Crue, but I'd never honestly describe them as "A list" in terms of legendary rock outfits.. Definitely throwing all my chips into Led Zeppelin if this turns out to be more than a rumor, it's the band's 50th anniversary this year Yes,agreed,Crue in my opinion not "A list". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I think this is about Guns N' Roses and the line about "half-hearted collaborations" might have been said either by Fortus or by Duff refering to their own experience trying to come up with music for this band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Ceding power to a producer makes total sense, in my opinion. Sure, Axl isn't one to do such a thing, but we must consider the circumstances. Guns N' Roses is now a business partnership consisting of Axl's management (Team Brazil), Slash's management and Duff's management. Having an arbiter who is not an immediate member of the band or its management renders work and negotiations simpler. It lessens the headache for all involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmenjello Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It’s happening 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro GNR Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Come on guys, don't play with my feelings... Am I the only one who reads enthusiastic posts, and gets shivers???? I need a new GnR album so much, I would be happy with 3 or 4 songs...just need to listen the best music combo in history Axl+Slash (at least for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGeneral Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It has to be GNR. Theres no other band that description fits to. KISS for me isn't A-list anymore. And I don't think they made it up...apart from us fans who really cares about a new GNR album? It's not worth making it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGeneral Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It has to be GNR. Theres no other band that description fits to. KISS for me isn't A-list anymore. And I don't think they made it up...apart from us fans who really cares about a new GNR album? It's not worth making it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Everything points to Guns on this, they're the only band that are partially reunited with original members as Smashing Pumpkings will reunite with all o' them, and even if it they were partially reuniting, they havent toured and even if they did, they wouldnt make all this money the article talks about. KISS hasnt toured recently either and even if they had, they also dont make THAT kind of money. About giving creative control to a producer, makes sense to have someone in control after everything that happened 20 years ago and even CD, that took almost 20 years to be completed. Its not like the band wouldnt writte, but the producer could work as some kind of filter. But overall, we've all learned we cant expect anything to happen. Edited January 19, 2018 by default_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Alejandro GNR said: Is this source reliable???? Please tell me it is... CDAN doesn't have a perfect track record. They have been known to make up blinds. However, they are usually sensational blinds in content to drive viewership and clicks. I see this having some truth as the source as the hints all seem to make sense given what has happened. The source isn't just one person, but multiple people posting under one tag, hence the multiple "m"s in the name. So this specific individual has ties to the music industry. If we are to believe the blind to be true - it looks like it's S/D/A and the backing band will be recording - no AFD5 reunion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickodez Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I can see a new single maybe together with a new GH this year, and the tour Blu-Ray/Dvd later. New album in 2019 cause they arent crazy enough to continue touring without a real break, or are they this crazy and will go after that top 1 tour off all time? Edited January 19, 2018 by Rickodez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro GNR Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I like the idea of Rick Rubin working with GnR... He's done great work with big bands like Sabbath, The Cult, Slayer, RHCP, Danzig... I think he could make this guys sound like they should. If I were to choose, I'd go for Bob Rock (Metallica's Black Album is enough proof of what he is capable with a talented band) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlIsGod. Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 This is a weird one. The touring bit sounds 100% like the NITL tour, but things like "something they said theyd never do" is strange. Yes axl said not in this lifetime i suppose but when talking directly about a guns album i dont recall him saying he wouldnt. This thing seems to hinge on what the writer classes nugnr as. nugnr could be excluded from the" never doing a new album" as Axl did say he wanted to follow up CD pre reunion, but the writer is then using nugnr as the example for collaborative efforts you would think? Hard one to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'd love for this to be GN'R but as with all things, only time will tell. Only producer I'd have strong feelings against is John Shanks. Aside from him, I'm all for whomever can get Axl to release music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Axl giving control to the producer just doesn't make sense to me... I can't imagine Slash and Duff doing that either, but especially Axl. This is a notorious control freak who has worked many years on one album.... it doesn't add up. Mike Clink was a good producer for them because he always gave in. Of course maybe this 'gossip' is completely made up and doesn't apply to any band. Edited January 19, 2018 by EvanG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 About Rubin, I honestly enjoy what he did with 13, that album is everything I wanted to listen from a BS reunion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hmm.. http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ace-frehley-to-perform-on-this-years-kiss-kruise/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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