NEW 1993 PRO-SHOT: Saskatoon (Videos Now In OP)

[estrangedtwat]

$250.  Plus shipping from Japan, presumably.

[Nikki_Sixx]

On 6-5-2018 at 3:27 PM, estrangedtwat said:

$250.  Plus shipping from Japan, presumably.

Here's some more info/details :

http://www.suicideshift.info/bootleg/rose-in-the-wild.html

Edited May 11, 2018 by Nikki_Sixx

[pixiaofei]

太棒了

[scooby845]

1 hour ago, Nikki_Sixx said:

 

Here's some more info/details :

http://www.suicideshift.info/bootleg/rose-in-the-wild.html

What?! 

Hartford CT PRO-SHOT comes in package as well?! 

[Nikki_Sixx]

3 minutes ago, scooby845 said:

What?! 

Hartford CT PRO-SHOT comes in package as well?! 

No.  Audience shot.

[IncitingChaos]

I wish Axl was more reachable. I’d be interested in his thoughts on some of these pro shots and memories from that show. It would be cool if we could reach him on specific things like that without people getting crazy and asking him other ridiculous things haha 

I guess that’s why a box set would be cool with interviews. 

[GNRfan2008]

16 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

I wish Axl was more reachable. I’d be interested in his thoughts on some of these pro shots and memories from that show. It would be cool if we could reach him on specific things like that without people getting crazy and asking him other ridiculous things haha 

I guess that’s why a box set would be cool with interviews. 

 

At some point the vault will be opened. 

[Litti]

10 minutes ago, GNRfan2008 said:

 

At some point the vault will be opened. 

By Geraldo Rivera and like in Al Capone's vault?  

[gnr5]

30 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

I wish Axl was more reachable. I’d be interested in his thoughts on some of these pro shots and memories from that show. It would be cool if we could reach him on specific things like that without people getting crazy and asking him other ridiculous things haha 

I guess that’s why a box set would be cool with interviews. 

This is my dream interview. Show Axl some of these pro shot shows from UYI tour ior before and let him talk about it.

[Litti]

8 minutes ago, gnr5 said:

This is my dream interview. Show Axl some of these pro shot shows from UYI tour ior before and let him talk about it.

Who know's, maybe he's already watching them every night and teary eyed.

[IncitingChaos]

I just like that Axl has seemingly never had an issue with bootlegs or releases like these. I think that’s the part of him that realizes he was a fan once too. But all the copyrighted take downs have come from crazy fans that think they are doing the right thing or universal having released something official for it already. 

[IncitingChaos]

28 minutes ago, GNRfan2008 said:

 

At some point the vault will be opened. 

I sure hope so! You could call it “Guns N Roses - The shows I finished! From Axl’s vault” and then have a blooper reel of Axl leaving shows early and call it “Unfinished business” an amazing 30 disc blu ray set! 

[lame ass security]

1 hour ago, Litti said:

By Geraldo Rivera and like in Al Capone's vault?  

Nice one, lol. What an embarrassment for Geraldo, his career never really recovered from that. 

[WhazUp]

13 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

In terms of them making up songs as they go would they have been the last major band to do this?.

Pearl Jam does it a lot, at least in the 90's - I know nowadays they write the setlist according to each specific show, but I am not sure how much they deviate from it once it is made though

[gnr5]

20 hours ago, Nikki_Sixx said:

I shared this last year, and paid a ridiculous amount of money for it 

Maybe they only want to discuss fake GNR, post '93 ?

Maybe they don't want to discuss illegal items, stolen from GNR's video crew.

What was so special about this bootleg? I thought it was available for a while, no?

[estrangedtwat]

11 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

I just like that Axl has seemingly never had an issue with bootlegs or releases like these. I think that’s the part of him that realizes he was a fan once too. But all the copyrighted take downs have come from crazy fans that think they are doing the right thing or universal having released something official for it already. 

Uh....were you not a fan in the 80s and 90s?  He bitched about bootlegs all the time.

[IncitingChaos]

5 hours ago, estrangedtwat said:

Uh....were you not a fan in the 80s and 90s?  He bitched about bootlegs all the time.

i don’t remember if he did or not specifically. But I remember this Bc it’s captured on video. At :40 he says “I don’t have a problem with any bootlegs, photos, or tapes or whatever” then goes on to rant about people’s bitching on setlist 

[Nicklord]

15 hours ago, WhazUp said:

Pearl Jam does it a lot, at least in the 90's - I know nowadays they write the setlist according to each specific show, but I am not sure how much they deviate from it once it is made though

They change several songs even after they write them. They write setlists usually to play different songs than when they were the last time in the region and to keep track of songs so they don't keep the same ones for 10 shows in a row 

[estrangedtwat]

47 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

i don’t remember if he did or not specifically. But I remember this Bc it’s captured on video. At :40 he says “I don’t have a problem with any bootlegs, photos, or tapes or whatever” then goes on to rant about people’s bitching on setlist 

Yeah, this coming from a guy who once started a riot cause someone was taking his picture.  He was a very different guy in the 80s and 90s.  In fact, he bitched about bootlegs before November Rain at the same riot show in St Louis.

[IncitingChaos]

1 minute ago, estrangedtwat said:

Yeah, this coming from a guy who once started a riot cause someone was taking his picture.  He was a very different guy in the 80s and 90s.  In fact, he bitched about bootlegs before November Rain at the same riot show in St Louis.

90’s were a different time. Axl asked multiple times to have that guy removed or camera taken away. People didn’t do what he asked, he has a paid photographer and filming crew and security is letting this guy in the crowd get away with something prohibited. Axl got pissed and we know that story, but again it’s a time when it’s blatently obvious when someone has a camera. 

But what did Axl say before November Rain? I recall Axl finding it funny that people knew lyrics to songs that were unreleased and made remarks about it to the crowd, but again I think he’s balanced being an artist and being a fan. I’m sure there are bootlegs he wished weren’t out there but I think as a kid growing up and being a fan of certain bands that having bootlegs was the coolest thing in the world.

[Ninjapie24]

I can’t wait to get this show once someone shares it. There were a few songs I had but they were not the best quality. Now The Garden and Nice Boys are up there with the Chicago 92’ Coma.

[estrangedtwat]

2 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

90’s were a different time. Axl asked multiple times to have that guy removed or camera taken away. People didn’t do what he asked, he has a paid photographer and filming crew and security is letting this guy in the crowd get away with something prohibited. Axl got pissed and we know that story, but again it’s a time when it’s blatently obvious when someone has a camera. 

But what did Axl say before November Rain? I recall Axl finding it funny that people knew lyrics to songs that were unreleased and made remarks about it to the crowd, but again I think he’s balanced being an artist and being a fan. I’m sure there are bootlegs he wished weren’t out there but I think as a kid growing up and being a fan of certain bands that having bootlegs was the coolest thing in the world.

He said "Oh you guys know this song.  I guess the more songs we write, the more bootleg records we sell."   Something like that.  Not a direct quote.  But he was not happy about it.

Times have changed.  The only way artists combat it now is to make everyone put their cellphones in locked bags and shit like that.  It's a pain in the ass for them to do it, but some of them do.  If there was an easy way for Axl to do that with the size of the crowds they played for during NITL he probably would have.  But I'm sure at some point in the last ten years he realized it was a losing battle and just gave up.

[AFDRR]

This has nothing to do with the actual topic here although I can't wait to see that footage.

But if someone here (preferably in Europe as I live in Austria now so sending would not take too long) is able to digitize from VHS, Video8 and Hi8 I would have a few tapes that might be interesting for the fans here. I don't have a player anymore for neither of them so I can't take pics or videos of the TV but I'm not asking for money just for someone transferring the footage for free - a proper copy of the stuff would be nice though after it's done and obviously it should be shared somehow after for free (torrent, YT, whatever)

The footage I'm talking about would be:

Amsterdam - October 2nd, 1987 - VHS Unknown Gen, 20 minutes recorded by the venue with 1 cam, transferred badly to VHS but watchable.

Manchester - October 6th, 1987 - Master Video8, audience shot of the full gig.

Tokyo - December 10th, 1988 - Master Hi8, audience shot of the full gig.

Helsinki - August 13th, 1991 - VHS probably 1st Gen, about 30 minutes pro filmed with 1 cam. No idea who filmed it but I guess a TV station. Got the tape from a finnish workmate years ago.

Vienna - May 23rd, 1992 - VHS from the master tapes, about 90 minutes pro footage filmed by Austrian TV station ORF with 2 cameras as far as I remember. Not all from the gig though, there's a few interview clips with the band and fans plus maybe 5 minutes of the soundcheck, so around 60-70 minutes gig footage. Aside from a few interviews none of this eas shown on TV

Vienna - June 2nd, 1993 - VHS from the master tapes, full gig pro footage, multicam, also by ORF with 2 or 3 cams. None shown on TV

Lyon - July 9th 1993 - 2 Master Hi8 tapes (one shot from the side of the stage and one between fist row and stage) and 1 VHS badly cut together by both. Audience, full gig.

 

All of them are legit as I watched them all. I would have a few other which I can't confirm as I haven't watched them ever but I would send them too, maybe they are real. Also I have some Video8 and Hi8 tapes filmed by myself from US and UK gigs but they are far from pro but maybe you want to see them.

So if someone is able to digitize them properly I'm happy to give the tapes away.

[zigzagbigbag]

Limulus?! 😃

[ludurigan]

14 minutes ago, AFDRR said:

This has nothing to do with the actual topic here although I can't wait to see that footage.

But if someone here (preferably in Europe as I live in Austria now so sending would not take too long) is able to digitize from VHS, Video8 and Hi8 I would have a few tapes that might be interesting for the fans here. I don't have a player anymore for neither of them so I can't take pics or videos of the TV but I'm not asking for money just for someone transferring the footage for free - a proper copy of the stuff would be nice though after it's done and obviously it should be shared somehow after for free (torrent, YT, whatever)

The footage I'm talking about would be:

Amsterdam - October 2nd, 1987 - VHS Unknown Gen, 20 minutes recorded by the venue with 1 cam, transferred badly to VHS but watchable.

Manchester - October 6th, 1987 - Master Video8, audience shot of the full gig.

Tokyo - December 10th, 1988 - Master Hi8, audience shot of the full gig.

Helsinki - August 13th, 1991 - VHS probably 1st Gen, about 30 minutes pro filmed with 1 cam. No idea who filmed it but I guess a TV station. Got the tape from a finnish workmate years ago.

Vienna - May 23rd, 1992 - VHS from the master tapes, about 90 minutes pro footage filmed by Austrian TV station ORF with 2 cameras as far as I remember. Not all from the gig though, there's a few interview clips with the band and fans plus maybe 5 minutes of the soundcheck, so around 60-70 minutes gig footage. Aside from a few interviews none of this eas shown on TV

Vienna - June 2nd, 1993 - VHS from the master tapes, full gig pro footage, multicam, also by ORF with 2 or 3 cams. None shown on TV

Lyon - July 9th 1993 - 2 Master Hi8 tapes (one shot from the side of the stage and one between fist row and stage) and 1 VHS badly cut together by both. Audience, full gig.

 

All of them are legit as I watched them all. I would have a few other which I can't confirm as I haven't watched them ever but I would send them too, maybe they are real. Also I have some Video8 and Hi8 tapes filmed by myself from US and UK gigs but they are far from pro but maybe you want to see them.

So if someone is able to digitize them properly I'm happy to give the tapes away.

wow this is truly a great collection of stuff, hope you find someone to digitalize these videos real soon!

@FRANSAD can you do it?