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ok guys, to clear up the widespread confusion at least a little bit, the time has come for me to share my - still provisional - table. using all available sources I could find, I tried to collect as much information about GNR (including Rapidfire and Hollywood Rose) studio sessions and recorded tracks, as possible.

80's era is not perfect, but pretty well done. 90's era is a mess, I've only been able to find little relevant info. and of course Chinese Democracy era is a total mess, so I just sorted the known releases and leaks into a chronological order.

MASSIVE credits to everyone who helped me putting this sheet together!

any informations is always subject to change. YOUR OPINIONS ARE WELCOME! 

 

  First unofficial recording source Best sounding unofficial recording source Official releases (singles or compilations only where it makes sense mentioning)
(unclear garage band(s) existed in Lafayette in late 70's featuring Axl, Izzy and Paul Huge; one of them might have been already called AXL)      
(a number of "friends" formed around the Lafayette core already, including Dave Lank, Mike Staggs or Roger Miley, also Shannon Hoon)      
       
Rapidfire (in LA, Axl joined "less than 2 weeks before first known show on March 20" the last show May 28, 1983, band disbanded shortly after that):      
       
Ready To Rumble recording Sessions - Telstar Sound Studio, Burbank, CA, May 25, 1983      
(lineup was Axl, Chuck Gordon, Mike Hammernik, Kevin Schwartz)      
01 Ready to Rumble N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP
02 All Night Long N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP
03 The Prowler N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP
04 On the Run N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP
05 Closure N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP
       
Rose/Hollywood Rose (formed as AXL in late 1983, after 2 or 3 shows renamed to Rose "sometime after Christmas 1983", first show under Rose name Jan 3rd or 4th 1984):
     
(alternatively, Vicky Hamilton misremembered the story and the Jan 3/4 was actually the very first show of this band)      
       
Rose Demos - "Recorded January 1984 in Hollywood, California" (but maybe already in late 1983), in "now defunct studio at the corner of Ivar & Selma Blvd."      
(liner notes for "The Roots of Guns N' Roses" release list lineup as Axl, Izzy, Chris Weber and Johnny Kreis, no dedicated bass player for this session)      
01 Shadow Of Your Love "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes, one with Tracii Guns guitar overdub from 2004 or earlier)
02 My Way Your Way (later "Anything Goes") "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes)
03 Wreckless (later "Reckless Life") "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes, one with Tracii Guns guitar overdub from 2004 or earlier)
04 Rocker "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes)
05 Killing Time "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes)
06 Killing Time (Slower take, incomplete) (session uncertain) "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape N/A
07 That Something (song sometimes also called "Out Of Control", take with Axl on vocals) (session uncertain, possibly rehearsal without bass player) "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape N/A
08 Cold Hard Cash (song sometimes also called "Cold Hearted") (session uncertain, possibly rehearsal without bass player) "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape N/A
That Something (originally called "Taxi Driver", different take without Axl on vocals, might be Izzy) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE (session uncertain, possibly rehearsal without bass player) "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis N/A
(since bassist Rick Mars/Marrs had this tape but according to Roots liner notes didn't play on it, possibly he got a copy of it later to learn the songs)      
       
"Rose rehearsal" - at earliest around Christmas 1983, but more likely early 1984 to April 1984 at latest (when they still called themselves Rose and had a bass player)
     
(it's unknown who played bass on these - Rick Mars/Marrs or Andre Toxx or Daniel "DJ" Nicolson, uncertain which order they played with Rose in, or if they were even full band members or just live bass guitarists)
     
01 Anything Goes LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A
02 (unknown song #1 - hardly intelligible vocals suggest lyrics including "Rock N' Ro-something") LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A
03 Cold Hard Cash (attempt 1) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A
04 Cold Hard Cash (attempt 2) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A
05 (unknown song #2 attempt 1) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE      
06 (unknown song #2 attempt 2) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE      
07 (unknown song #2 attempt 3) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A
(Rose finally officially renamed to Hollywood Rose in late Apr 1984, but already used HR name on flyer for 16th March show and then again Rose for 1st April show)
     
(a number of other songs were played live and/or rehearsed back then, including Hollywood Girls, Beat On My Head, International Boys, Rock N' Rose, I'm In Love, Everything's OK)
     
(sometime mid-1984, after Music Machine show which possibly happened at May 10th, Chris Weber was replaced by Slash, Kreis was also replaced by Steven Adler, after a week Izzy left)
     
       
("New Hollywood Rose" lineup at first gig Jun 16, 1984 was Axl, Slash, Steven Adler, Steve Darrow; some Road Crew songs like Rock N' Roll Survivor were added to the live sets)
     
(last HR show Aug 29th or 31st 1984 - unclear if Aug 31st show known from a flyer even happened, Steve Darrow was replaced by 29th by Snake, then Slash left and HR disbanded)
     
       
(HR reunited for "one last show" on Dec 31st 1984, lineup was Axl, returning Izzy, Steve Darrow, Rob Gardner and returning Chris Weber as Slash couldn't make it for the gig)
     
(flyer and interview confirm a HR show on March 7, 1985 with again the same lineup - Axl, Izzy, Steve Darrow, Rob Gardner, Chris Weber - unclear if there were 2 reunion shows or if the Dec 31st show actually was misremembered)
     
       
Guns N' Roses (formed very shortly after the last Mar 7th, 1985 Hollywood Rose show):      
(Chris Weber "played bass at a few rehearsals with GNR" and considered joining them on bass, but it's unclear if it was before Ole, or after Ole and before Duff, or if it's misremembered and belongs to HR times)
     
       
Uncertain studio rehearsal #1 - most likely WillPower Studios, less likely Mates Rehersal (Axl, Izzy, Tracii Guns, Rob Gardner, Ole Beich) (incomplete, unsorted)      
*MISSING* Jumpin' Jack Flash *MISSING* bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
*MISSING* Think About You *MISSING* bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
*MISSING* Bloodshot Eyes (Take #1) *MISSING* bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
*MISSING* Bloodshot Eyes (Take #2) *MISSING* bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Don't Cry (leaked excerpt) (leaked excerpt) N/A
*MISSING* Move To The City *MISSING* bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
       
WillPower Studios (also known as Willie Basse's studio) sessions:      
       
Rehearsal #2 (still with Ole Beich, confirmed at WillPower Studios)      
Rehearsal #3 (Ole Beich didn't show up, it's not certain if this even happened just without a bass player)      
Duff joins and jams with Izzy before the first rehearsal with the whole band      
       
Rehearsal #4 (with Tracii Guns, Rob Gardner and #1 with Duff McKagan) - March 24th, 1985      
Don't Cry Raz Cue 24th March, 1985 KPFK radio Raz Cue 24th March, 1985 KPFK radio N/A
Anything Goes Raz Cue 24th March, 1985 KPFK radio Raz Cue 24th March, 1985 KPFK radio N/A
Think About You Raz Cue 24th March, 1985 KPFK radio Raz Cue 24th March, 1985 KPFK radio N/A
*MISSING* Heartbreak Hotel (Elvis Presley cover) *MISSING* (confirmed to have been rehearsed in the interview, altough maybe not in this exact rehearsal) N/A N/A N/A
       
(first pre-AFD lineup show Mar 26th, last one May 12th)      
(Tracii Guns was fired after the Joshua's Parlor show on 12th May, Rob Gardner left the day after, Slash officially joined after last Black Sheep gig on May 31st)      
Drummer audition sessions, still at WillPower Studios (Chain vs Nickey Beat of LA Guns vs Steven Adler, Steven joined in the end) - between May and June 6th 1985
     
       
pre-Appetite Sessions:      
       
Space In Silverlake Studio - "days before June 6th 85 gig" (the first AFD lineup show)      
Nicky Beat's Love Palace - "before The Hell Tour" (which started June 8th, after the June 6th warmup "first gig"), probably also during the Hell Tour (which ended before June 28th show) - this might actually be the same studio as Space In Silverlake
     
Gardner Street Studio - June 85 to Feb 86      
       
Mystic Sound Studio, Selma Avenue, Hollywood, CA 90028, August 1985 (this might be an one-time "proffessional session")      
1. Welcome To The Jungle Second Take Demos Izzy Stranded tape Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette
2. Anything Goes Second Take Demos Izzy Stranded tape Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette
3. Don't Cry Second Take Demos Izzy Stranded tape Don't Cry CDS, Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette
4. Back Off Bitch Second Take Demos Izzy Stranded tape Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette
5. Think About You - sounds a bit differently than the previous ones but is from the same session cassette? Izzy Stranded tape Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette
*MISSING* instrumental version of TAY or also more tracks above *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (presumably the same takes before vocal overdubs) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Heartbreak Hotel (Elvis Presley cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reportedly never mixed) N/A N/A N/A
       
*MISSING* Unknown location and date rehearsal - tape says 1st January 1986, but it is crossed over, so maybe the date is not accurate *MISSING* - it's possible that this was actually recorded at Gardner Street Studio (listed above)
     
Nightrain (leaked excerpt) (leaked excerpt) N/A
Rocket Queen bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Nightrain [Instrumental] bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Move to the City bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Move to the City [Instrumental] bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Out ta Get Me bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Out ta Get Me [Instrumental] bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Paradise City bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
My Michelle bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
My Michelle [Instrumental] bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Welcome to the Jungle [Instrumental] bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Think About You [Instrumental] bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
Reckless Life [Instrumental] bootleg tape bootleg tape N/A
(the only known rehearsal featuring the full AFD lineup; tracklist order is not 100% confirmed)      
       
Manny Charlton produced Sound City Sessions -> June 4-5 1986, Sound City Studios, Van Nuys, CA (other sources said June 2-4)      
01 Out Ta Get Me (Take #1) Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I + .44 Horticulture (Intro patch) Appetite For Destruction SDE
*MISSING* Out Ta Get Me (Any Additional Takes) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (might not exist, but above track is named “Take #1”) N/A N/A N/A
02 Rocket Queen (Take #1) Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I + Hell Revisited (Intro patch) Appetite For Destruction SDE
03 Rocket Queen (Take #2) .44 Horticulture Sound City Unmastered (LOSSY MP3) N/A
04 Nightrain Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE
05 My Michelle Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE
06 You're Crazy Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE
*MISSING* You're Crazy (Take #2) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (might not exist, but the acoustic version is named "Take #3") N/A N/A N/A
07 Paradise City Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE
08 Move To The City (Take #1) Welcome To The Sessions November Rain + .44 Horticulture (Outro patch) Appetite For Destruction SDE
*MISSING* Move To The City (Take #2) 3:25 *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
09 November Rain (Acoustic) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE
10 November Rain (Piano) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE
11 Shadow Of Your Love (Take #1 - "wake up, it’s time to play" version) Welcome To The Sessions The Hell Revisited Live And Let Die CDS, Appetite For Destruction SDE
*MISSING* Shadow Of Your Love (Take #2) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (different take from "wake up, it's time to play") N/A N/A N/A
12 Reckless Life Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE
13 Think About You Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE
14 Welcome To The Jungle ("you guys ready?" false start) Welcome To The Sessions The Hell Revisited Appetite For Destruction SDE, The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses (unreleased)
15 Don't Cry Welcome To The Sessions Sound City Unmastered (LOSSY MP3) N/A
16 Nice Boys (Take #1 or #2, Rose Tattoo cover) (session uncertain) N/A Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 sold and released independently in 2008 at American 80's Hair Metal compilation (credited NOT as GN'R), and in 2014 The Many Faces Of Guns N' Roses compilation (credited as GN'R)
*MISSING* Nice Boys (Take #1 or #2, Rose Tattoo cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
17 Nice Boys (Take #3, Rose Tattoo cover) (“no we’re not” version) Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE
18 Back Off Bitch Welcome To The Sessions The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes Appetite For Destruction SDE
19 Anything Goes (Alternate lyrics) Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE
20 Mama Kin (Aerosmith cover) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE
21 Heartbreak Hotel (Take #1, Elvis Presley cover) ("Since my baby left me" intro) (session uncertain) N/A Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 sold and released independently in 2008 at Hollywood Rocks! compilation (credited NOT as GN'R)
22 Heartbreak Hotel (Take #2, Elvis Presley cover) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE
23 Ain't Goin' Down (Instrumental) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE
*MISSING* Jumpin’ Jack Flash (Electric Take #1, Rolling Stones cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
24 Jumpin' Jack Flash (Electric Take #2, Rolling Stones cover) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE
25 Jumpin' Jack Flash (acoustic, Rolling Stones cover) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE
26 Move To The City (acoustic - "west coast junkie" intro) Welcome To The Sessions Rumbo Tapes Appetite For Destruction SDE
27 New Work Tune (previously known as "Untitled Song In Progress") (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE
28 You're Crazy (acoustic) (Take #3) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE (rumored to be partly re-recorded by NITL lineup)
29 The Plague (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE
30 Cornshucker Stomp Sound City Unmastered (LOSSY MP3) Sound City Unmastered (LOSSY MP3) N/A
       
Pasha Studios, 5615 Melrose Avenue, Hollywood, CA - August to October 1986 - first 2 tracks Spencer Proffer produced, the rest without him; mastered October 31st
     
01 Sweet Child O' Mine Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
02 Nightrain (Alternate Intro) Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
03 Jumpin’ Jack Flash (Rolling Stones cover) Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
04 You’re Crazy Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
05 Reckless Life Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 Suicide EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (both w "fake crowd)
06 Heartbreak Hotel (Elvis Presley cover) Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
07 Shadow Of Your Love Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 ISE 12", Live From The Jungle EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (all with "fake crowd")
08 Welcome To The Jungle Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
09 Move To The City Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 Suicide EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (both w "fake crowd)
10 Mama Kin ("this is a song about your fuckin' mother" intro, Aerosmith cover) Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 Suicide EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (both w "fake crowd)
11 Nice Boys (Rose Tattoo cover) Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 Suicide EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (both w "fake crowd)
12 Mr. Brownstone Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
13 Don’t Cry Metal Petals Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
       
West Arkeen "Hell House" Demos - 1139 N Fuller Avenue, Los Angeles, CA, Sept. 1986-Early 1987      
Crash Diet Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I sold, re-recorded and officially released by Asphalt Ballet in 1993 (album Pigs) and later also by WildSide in 2004 (compilation The Wasted Years, track recorded in 1991 already)
The Garden Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I re-recorded by GN'R for Use Your Illusion I
Too Much Too Fast (correct title according to West Arkeen Tape, some bootlegs errorneously list it as Too Much Too Soon) Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A
*MISSING* Sunny Lovers Day *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Martyr Of The 20th Century *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A sold to The Antja Mimes and officially released - year unknown
Bad Obsession Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I re-recorded by GN'R for Use Your Illusion I
Just Another Sunday (not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same session because it’s in the intro for Bring It Down Home, Izzy on vocals) Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A
Bring It Down Home (correct title according to West Arkeen Tape liner, some bootlegs errorneously list it as Bring It Back Home) Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A
Sentimental Movie Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A
*MISSING* Second Time Loser *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape, Duff on vocals) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Drinkin’ *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Make Your Play *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A re-recorded and officially released by Brother Cane in 1993 (self-titled album)
Yesterdays Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I re-recorded by GN'R for Use Your Illusion II; same or a similiar riff was used for Velvet Revolver's Fall to Pieces
Crash Diet (Alternate Mix) (not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably remixed from the same track) The Hell Revisited The Hell Revisited N/A
Drum Machine Instrumental #1 (not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same drum machine sessions) The Hell Revisited The Hell Revisited N/A
Drum Machine Instrumental #2 (‘The Garden’ Song Sketch) (not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same drum machine sessions) The Hell Revisited The Hell Revisited N/A (same or a similiar riff was used for Slash's Snakepit's Speed Parade)
*MISSING* Walk On By *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A re-recorded and officially released in 1999 by The Outpatience (album Anxious Disease)
*MISSING* It's So Easy *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (originally from West Arkeen sessions, written on acoustic guitars) N/A N/A N/A
       
Clink Try-Out Session -> November 23 1986, Rumbo Recorders, Canoga Park, CA (this might be an one-time "proffessional session")      
Shadow Of Your Love (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE (rumored to be partly re-recorded by NITL lineup)
       
Unknown Date/Session - Unknown 1986/87?      
*MISSING* You Could Be Mine *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (might not exist) N/A N/A N/A
       
pre-production rehearsals at S.I.R. Studios in Burbank, likely started in December 1986      
unknown session or rehearsal at Sunset Sound Studios, content is unknown and date was before January 1987 - could actually be confused/misremembered studio information, while actually being the Sound City sessions above
     
       
Main Appetite For Destruction Sessions:      
Mike Clink AFD sessions: January 18th 1987 - March 23rd 1987 (Rumbo/Take One/Can Am Studios CA) + Mixing April-May 1987 (Meda Sound NYC)      
(note: album version tracks were recorded in various studios - like guitars+vocals Take One, bass+drums Rumbo, and even this was not a rule of thumb)      
       
(over time, a number of tapes with "snapshots" from mixing process existed. the following tracks thus are NOT demos, but various mixes of album tracks)      
       
*MISSING* early recording sessions *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) (typos in liner notes left uncorrected)      
Anything Goes "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Rocket Queen "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Paradise City "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Nighttrain "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Fucking Crazy "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy w/long intro edit 1/30 "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Think About You 1/30 "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michele 1/30 "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Out To Get Me "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Paradise City "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Rocket Queen "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Nightrain "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Fucking Crazy "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Think About You "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Sweet Child If Mine "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Jungle "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Jungle "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Fucking Crazy "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownston "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Sweet Child Of Mine "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Out To Get Me "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Rocket Queen "New Gtrs, Ruff Vox 2/13/87" tape "New Gtrs, Ruff Vox 2/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle "New Gtrs, Ruff Vox 2/13/87" tape "New Gtrs, Ruff Vox 2/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy - New vocal, new gtr, new "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Anything Goes - New vocal, gtr, b.v. "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Nightrain - New gnr, vocal "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michele - New vocal (no ?), new gtr "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Paradise City - New vocal, b.v.+gtr "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
       
*MISSING* probably later mixing sessions *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) (typos in liner notes left uncorrected)      
It's So Easy 4/2 "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy 4/2 rhytm gtr up, solo up "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy 4/2 P.G. vocal "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Fuckin' Crazy 4/2 "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Fuckin' Crazy 4/3 "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Out To Get Me Tk2 "4/6/87" tape "4/6/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Out To Get Me Tk3 - less snare "4/6/87" tape "4/6/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Out To Get Me - P.G. vocal "4/6/87" tape "4/6/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle - guide(?) "4/6/87" tape "4/6/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy (unknown number of tracks/versions) "It's So Easy 4/10/87" tape "It's So Easy 4/10/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle "My Michelle 4/10/87" tape "My Michelle 4/10/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle - X "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle - Y "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle - Z "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle - R "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle Take 4 "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle Take 2 "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle Take 3 "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle Take 1 "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Think About You "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone w/Axl adjustments 21/4 "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone hype @ 70 22/4 "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone hype @ 100 22/4 "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone Jellymix 22/4 "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy - Album Tk 5 "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy - PG(?) Tk 3 "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy Album Tk1 "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle - Mix 8 - Choice? "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michell - Mix 7 "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy (LP) "4/29/87" tape "4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Mr. Brownstone "4/29/87" tape "4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Shadow Of Your Love "4/29/87" tape "4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Move To The City "4/29/87" tape "4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michele "My Michelle 4/29/87" tape "My Michelle 4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Out To Get Me "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Anything Goes "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Think About You "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
It's So Easy "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Fuckin' Crazy - Tk 5 "5/14/87" tape "5/14/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone - Tk 3 "5/14/87" tape "5/14/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone - Tk 4 "5/14/87" tape "5/14/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Fuckin' Crazy "5/15/87" tape "5/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone "5/15/87" tape "5/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Brownstone ?(8) "Brownstone" tape (unknown date) "Brownstone" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle - new "My Michelle" tape (unknown date) "My Michelle" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle - old "My Michelle" tape (unknown date) "My Michelle" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Out To Get Me - choice mix "Out To Get Me" tape (unknown date) "Out To Get Me" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Out To Get Me - P.G. mix "Out To Get Me" tape (unknown date) "Out To Get Me" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Mr. Brownstone "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Jungle "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
My Michelle "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Think About You "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Child Of Mine "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Fuckin' Crazy "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Anything Goes "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
Rocket Queen "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
(more tapes with AFD album version tracklists follow, presumably the final mixes) "5/19/87" (another) and "5/26/87" tapes "5/19/87" (another) and "5/26/87" tapes Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE*
       
Appetite For Destruction finally mixed and mastered tracks (album released July 21, 1987):      
(note: tracks here are in album order, not in recording sessions order)      
       
01 Welcome to the Jungle N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
02 It’s So Easy N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
03 Nightrain N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
04 Out Ta Get Me N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
05 Mr. Brownstone N/A N/A ISE 12" DJ promo (different mix), Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
06 Paradise City N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
07 My Michelle N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
08 Think About You N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
09 Sweet Child O’ Mine N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
10 You’re Crazy N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
11 Anything Goes N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
12 Rocket Queen N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE
       
LIES Sessions (produced by Mike Clink, album released November 29, 1988):      
       
July 29 1987, Take One Studio, Burbank, CA (the 3 unreleased tracks are from unknown session, but it seems they could have been recorded at this one)      
01 Patience N/A The Alan Niven Lies Sessions GNR Lies, Appetite For Destruction SDE
One In A Million (alt. take) The Alan Niven Lies Sessions Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
You’re Crazy (alt. take)(date and studio uncertain - AFD SDE liner notes say Take One 87, but in tracklists it usually is between "Rumbo" OIAM alt and UTLH alt) N/A The Alan Niven Lies Sessions Welcome To The Jungle CDS, Appetite For Destruction SDE
Used To Love Her (alt. take) The Alan Niven Lies Sessions Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
Cornshucker The Alan Niven Lies Sessions Cocked And Re-Loaded v3.0 N/A
*MISSING* Jumpin Jack Flash (Acoustic) *MISSING* (mentioned in August 1987 interview, might be from Take One session or separate session) N/A N/A N/A
       
Rumbo Studios, Canoga Park, CA - January 1988 (some sources say August, but it doesn't seem likely due to many shows around the world)      
04 One In A Million N/A N/A GNR Lies
       
April 19-20 1988, Image Studio, Hollywood, CA (UTLH+YC 19th, MTTC 20th)      
02 Used To Love Her N/A N/A GNR Lies, Appetite For Destruction SDE
03 You're Crazy N/A N/A GNR Lies, Appetite For Destruction SDE
Move To The City (Acoustic) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE (rumored to be partly re-recorded by NITL lineup)
       
Pre-Use Your Illusions Sessions:      
       
*MISSING* Top Note Theatre, Chicago, IL rehearsal space, Jun-Jul 1989 *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (early UYI writing sessions) N/A N/A N/A
       
Mates Rehearsal Studios, North Hollywood, CA - December 6, 1989 (without Axl, still with Steven Adler)      
01 Don't Damn Me (Instrumental Take #1) Cass(1) JimBeam Project V1 N/A
02 Don't Damn Me (Instrumental Take #2) Cass(1) JimBeam Project V1 N/A
03 Garden Of Eden (Instrumental) Cass(1) JimBeam Project V1 N/A
04 Locomotive (Instrumental) Cass(1) JimBeam Project V1 N/A
05 Dust N' Bones (Duff McKagan on Vocals) Cass(1) JimBeam Project V1 N/A
*MISSING* Bad Apples *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Coma *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
(the tracklist is likely incomplete and the tape likely includes more tracks)      
       
*MISSING* (drummer sessions February - June 1990, including Jussi Tegelman, Adam Maples, Martin Chambers) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
       
Days of Thunder session - probably between April and June 1990, it seems like Matt Sorum was already around, mixes DAT says June 21st, DOT released June 26th
     
DoT version can be considered "original", for UYI2 the "answers" were edited out, and finally for UYI98 release it was further shortened      
Knockin' On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan cover) N/A N/A Days of Thunder OST, Use Your Illusion II (edited version), Use Your Illusion (1998, further edited version), KOHD remix (of original DoT version)
       
Unknown sessions or mixes - presumably these happened before or during the main Civil War sessions, circa April to June 1990 at latest      
Civil War (Instrumental)(HTGTH says Mates Rehearsal 89, but that's probably wrong) Ultra Rare Trax Vol. VI JimBeam Project V1 N/A
Civil War (overdubbed version from above) Ultra Rare Trax Vol. VI JimBeam Project V1 N/A
       
April-May or June 1990 Civil War sessions - A&M Studios/Take One Studios, Steven Adler on drums (fired July 11, 1990, Nobody's Child released July 23rd)      
(original Nobody's Child release was mixed by Mike Clink, for album the same track was used but mixed differently by Bill Price)      
Civil War N/A N/A Nobody's Child, Use Your Illusion II*
       
Main Use Your Illusions sessions:      
UYI: A&M Studios, Record Plant Studios, Studio 56, Image Recording, Conway Studios, Metalworks Recording Studios, Skip Saylor Recording (album mixing)      
TSI: A&M Studios, Record Plant Studios, Rumbo Recorders, CanAm Studios, Sound Techniques, Triad Studios, Conway Recording Studios, Ocean Way Recording      
basic tracks (drums, bass, Izzy) circa Aug-Sep 1990, lead guitar circa Sep-Nov 1990, vocals and fx circa Oct-Dec 1990, various overdubs circa Dec 1990 to August 1991
     
       
(over time, a number of DAT tapes with "snapshots" from mixing process existed. the following tracks thus are NOT demos, but mostly mixes of album tracks)      
       
Record Plant Recording Studios - September 21, 1990 (instrumental rough mixes)      
01 Estranged (Instrumental) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT Use Your Illusion II*
02 Locomotive (Instrumental) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT Use Your Illusion II*
03 Breakdown (Instrumental) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT Use Your Illusion II*
04 The Garden (Instrumental) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT Use Your Illusion I*
05 Black Leather (Instrumental) (TSI album take with Izzy on guitar, Steve Jones/The Sex Pistols cover) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
06 I Don’t Care About You (Instrumental) (TSI album take with Izzy on guitar, Fear cover) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
07 Attitude (Instrumental) (TSI album take with Izzy on guitar, Misfits cover) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
08 New Rose (Instrumental) (TSI album take with Izzy on guitar, The Damned cover) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
09 14 Years (Alternate Lyrics & Alternate Outro, with Izzy on vocals & "Duff's new bass") “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT N/A
       
October 26th 1990 (rough mix)      
*MISSING* Estranged (rough mix) *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) "GN'R Rough Mixes" DAT "GN'R Rough Mixes" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
       
October 30th 1990 (rough mix)      
*MISSING* Estranged (rough mix) *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) "GN'R Estranged Rough Mix" DAT "GN'R Estranged Rough Mix" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
       
November 2nd 1990 (rough mix)      
Coma (Instrumental with Axl's notes where which vocals will go) "GN'R Ruff with New Axl Vocal" DAT (leaked excerpt) "GN'R Ruff with New Axl Vocal" DAT (leaked excerpt) Use Your Illusion I*
       
December 6th 1990      
01 Civil War (Q Sound) "Civil War" DAT "Civil War" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
02 Civil War (Standard) (unclear if the exact same track as at Nobody's Child or different mix) "Civil War" DAT "Civil War" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
       
Mike Clink produced Record Plant Recording Studios, Los Angeles, CA - December 16, 1990 - January 16, 1991, cassette says January 18, 1991      
01 November Rain (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I*
02 November Rain (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
03 Live and Let Die (Original Mix) (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I*
04 Live and Let Die (Q Sound Mix) (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
05 Estranged (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II*
06 Estranged (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
07 Double Talkin' Jive (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I*
08 Double Talkin' Jive (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
09 You Ain't The First (Original Mix - Alternate Take) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
10 You Aint The First (Q Sound Mix - Alternate Take) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
11 Yesterdays (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II*
12 Yesterdays (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
13 Pretty Tied Up (Original Mix - Extended. Outro) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II*
14 Pretty Tied Up (Q Sound Mix - Extended. Outro) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
15 You Could Be Mine (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II*
16 You Could Be Mine (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
17 Bad Apples (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I*
18 Bad Apples (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
19 Don't Cry (Original Lyrics) (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS*
20 Don't Cry (Original Lyrics) (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
21 Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics) (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II*, Don't Cry CDS*
22 Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics) (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A
       
*MISSING* Some other DAT tapes from Recording Plant Studios *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating)      
01 Perfect Crime "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
02 Dust + Bones (or Dust N' Bones) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
03 So Fine "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
04 Double Talkin' Jive "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
05 You Ain't The First "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
06 Dead Horse "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
07 Shotgun Blues "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
08 Bad Obsession "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
09 Right Next Door To Hell "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
10 Down On The Farm (U.K. Subs cover) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
11 Back Off Bitch "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
12 Bad Apples "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
13 Ain't Goin' Down "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT GN'R Pinball Machine*
14 Pretty Tied Up "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
15 Why Do You Look At Me (early name for Get In The Ring) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
16 Don't Cry "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I or II*
17 Live And Let Die (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
18 Garden of Eden "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
19 Coma "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
20 Don't Damn Me "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
21 Locomotive "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
22 Breakdown "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
23 Estranged "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
24 Yesterday (or Yesterdays) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
25 Black Leather (Steve Jones/The Sex Pistols cover) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
01 I Don't Care About You (Fear cover) "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
02 Attitude (Misfits cover) "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
03 New Rose (The Damned cover) "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?*
04 14 Years "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
05 You Could Be Mine "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
06 November Rain "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
07 The Garden "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
08 Estranged / Without You "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
       
*MISSING* Bill Price mixes (March-July 1991) *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating)      
RIght Next Door To Hell (Take 2) (date January 12th 1991 on the tape) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
RIght Next Door To Hell (Take 3) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
RIght Next Door To Hell (Take 4) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
Right Next Door To Hell ("night mix 31.1.91 SSL mix Take 1") "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
Right Next Door To Hell ("Take 2 less gtrs") "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
Right Next Door To Hell ("Take 3 thinner base, end cym") "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
Right Next Door To Hell ("Take 4 track T1, voc T3") "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
Don't Cry ("end of night") "Bill Price Mixes - Don't Cry - 3.18.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Don't Cry - 3.18.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I or II*, Don't Cry CDS*
Don't Cry (Demo)(Take 1) "Don't Cry - Demo Version 3.19.91" DAT "Don't Cry - Demo Version 3.19.91" DAT Don't Cry CDS*
Don't Cry (Original Lyrics)(Take 2) ("more ld. gtr.") "Don't Cry - Original Lyrics - 3.19.91" DAT "Don't Cry - Original Lyrics - 3.19.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS*
Don't Cry (Original Lyrics)(Take 3) ("more Axl main vocal") "Don't Cry - Original Lyrics - 3.19.91" DAT "Don't Cry - Original Lyrics - 3.19.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS*
Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics)(Take 2) ("w/ Axl vocal trims") "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*, Don't Cry CDS*
Don't Cry (Demo)(Take 2) ("Axl's gtr + voc. changes") "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT Don't Cry CDS*
Don't Cry (Demo)(Take 3) ("as take 2 w/ more Izzy BG's") "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT Don't Cry CDS*
RIght Next Door To Hell (Take 4) (maybe the same take as above, just on a different tape) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
Shotgun Blues (Take 2) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
14 Years (Take 4) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
Don't Cry (Original Lyrics)(Take 4) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS*
Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics)(Take 4) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*, Don't Cry CDS*
Don't Cry (Demo)(presumably this was the old Mystic Studios 1985 track, with new mix for Don't Cry single released in Sep 1991) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Don't Cry CDS*
Pretty Tied Up (Take 2) ("w/ Axl's (...) ") "Bill Price Mixes - Pretty Tied Up - 4.4.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Pretty Tied Up - 4.4.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
Pretty Tied Up (Take 3( ("alternate - tad more drums + ld. gtr.") "Bill Price Mixes - Pretty Tied Up - 4.4.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Pretty Tied Up - 4.4.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
So Fine (Take 1) "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
Perfect Crime (Take 1) "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
Perfect Crime (Take 2) ("fatter voc.") "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
Locomotive (Take 2) "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
Locomotive (Take 3) ("more normal vocal balance in c. 2.45") "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
Locomotive (Take 4) ("safety of Take 2 (...) more vocals") "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
14 Years (Take 6) ("as Take 4 with more Axl vocals") "Bill Price Mixes - 14 YEARS - 7.5.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - 14 YEARS - 7.5.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
14 Years (Take 7) ("as Take 4 with even more Axl vocals") "Bill Price Mixes - 14 YEARS - 7.5.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - 14 YEARS - 7.5.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
       
Axl’s Advance Copy - Unknown date 1990-1991 (rough mixes of mostly album versions, maybe from various dates)      
01 Ain't Goin' Down (possibly from shortly before May 24th 1991) "Axl's Advance Tape" "Axl's Advance Tape" GN'R Pinball Machine*
02 Get In The Ring (Instrumental) (Bridge lyrics only) "Axl's Advance Tape" "Axl's Advance Tape" N/A
03 Dust N' Bones Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I*
04 Bad Obsession Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I*
05 Back Off Bitch (possibly from shortly before May 24th 1991) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I*
06 Double Talkin' Jive Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I*
07 November Rain Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I*
08 The Garden Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I*
09 Garden Of Eden Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Use Your Illusion I*
10 Don't Damn Me (Alternate vocal track) "Axl's Advance Tape" "Axl's Advance Tape" N/A
11 Bad Apples Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Use Your Illusion I*
12 Dead Horse Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I*
13 Coma (without quotes) Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Use Your Illusion I*
14 Civil War Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion II*
       
Mike Clink produced Metalworks Recording Studios, Toronto, Canada - June 9-10, 1991 (probably vocal overdubs and effects)      
Get In The Ring N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I* (with fake crowd recorded during June 10th show in Saratoga)
       
(complete mastered(?) UYI I and UYI II CDs exist with date July 27, but some further tweaks (or experiments?) seem to have been done after that)      
(unknown if the July 27 discs are mastered versions identical to released versions and the August 2 tracks just unused experiments, or used last minute tweaks)      
Right Next Door to Hell "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Dust N' Bones "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Live and Let Die (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Don't Cry" (Original) "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS*
Perfect Crime "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
You Ain't the First "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Bad Obsession "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Back Off Bitch "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Double Talkin' Jive "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
November Rain "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
The Garden "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Garden of Eden "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Don't Damn Me "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Bad Apples "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Dead Horse "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Coma "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 1B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion I*
Civil War "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
14 Years "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Yesterdays "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Heaven's Door "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Get in the Ring "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Shotgun Blues "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Breakdown "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2A - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock n' Roll Decadence) "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Locomotive (Complicity) "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
So Fine "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Estranged "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
You Could Be Mine "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics) "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*, Don't Cry CDS*
My World "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD "Use Your Illusion Part 2B - 7/27/91" CD Use Your Illusion II*
01 Right Next Door To Hell (New EQ) "8/2/91" DAT "8/2/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
02 Dust & Bones (New Fade) "8/2/91" DAT "8/2/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
03 Perfect Crime (New Fade) "8/2/91" DAT "8/2/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
04 November Rain (New Start) "8/2/91" DAT "8/2/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*
05 Breakdown (New Start) "8/2/91" DAT "8/2/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
06 Locomotive (New Start) "8/2/91" DAT "8/2/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
07 Estranged (New Intro) "8/2/91" DAT "8/2/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*
       
Use Your Illusions and The Spaghetti Incident? final mixed and mastered tracks (UYI released September 17, 1991):      
(note: tracks here are in album order, not in recording sessions order)      
       
Right Next Door to Hell N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Dust N' Bones N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Live and Let Die (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Don't Cry" (Original) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Perfect Crime N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
You Ain't the First N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Bad Obsession N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Back Off Bitch N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Double Talkin' Jive N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
November Rain (1991 album version) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
The Garden N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Garden of Eden N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Don't Damn Me N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Bad Apples N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Dead Horse N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Coma N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
Civil War (still the same track as the Nobody's Child version, but different mix by Bill Price) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I
14 Years N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Yesterdays N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Get in the Ring N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Shotgun Blues N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Breakdown N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock n' Roll Decadence) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Locomotive (Complicity) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
So Fine N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Estranged N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
You Could Be Mine N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
My World (probably wasn't part of any of the main sessions and was made separately) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II
Ain't It Fun (uncertain if finished with UYI tracks, Izzy NOT on guitar, Mike Staggs on additional guitar, Dead Boys cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
(Izzy left before UYI release, Mike Staggs was considering joining the band, but in the end Gilby Clarke was the replacement)      
       
*MISSING* Following tracks have been recorded but only released later after further edits *MISSING*      
Ain't Going Down N/A N/A GN'R Pinball Machine (track released there in potato quality in July 1994)
Attitude (with Izzy on guitar, Misfits cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?*
New Rose (with Izzy on guitar, The Damned cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?*
Black Leather (with Izzy on guitar, Steve Jones/The Sex Pistols cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?*
Down On The Farm (with Izzy on guitar, U.K. Subs cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?*
I Don't Care About You (with Izzy on guitar, Fear cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?*
       
Later sessions (various sessions for The Spaghetti Incident? tracks, solo sessions - The Spaghetti Incident? released November 23, 1993):      
       
Recording sessions probably for Duff's solo album Believe In Me - Triad Studios, Redmond, WA between 14-17 of July 1991      
You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory (confirmed in 1991 interview, Johnny Thunders cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
       
Unknown Recording Session - 1992      
Love Theme From The Godfather (also originally known as "Speak Softly, Love" by Nino Rota) N/A N/A The Kid Stays In The Picture OST (released in 2002)
       
Sound Techniques Inc., Boston, MA - March 1993      
Since I Don't Have You (The Skyliners cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
       
Also recorded after UYI sessions, that is later during UYI tour:      
Attitude (Misfits cover, Gilby Clarke guitar overdub) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
New Rose (The Damned cover, Gilby Clarke guitar overdub) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
Black Leather (Steve Jones/The Sex Pistols cover, Gilby Clarke guitar overdub) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
Down On The Farm (U.K. Subs cover, Gilby Clarke guitar overdub) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
I Don't Care About You (Fear cover, Gilby Clarke guitar overdub) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
Human Being (New York Dolls cover, recorded during UYI tour with Gilby, sometimes between 1992 and 1993) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
Hair Of The Dog (Nazareth cover, recorded during UYI tour with Gilby, sometimes between 1992 and 1993) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
Raw Power (The Stooges cover, recorded during UYI tour with Gilby, sometimes between 1992 and 1993) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
Buick Makane (T. Rex cover, recorded during UYI tour or little after it) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
*MISSING* Down On The Street (instrumental, The Stooges cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Beer And Cigarette (instrumental, Hanoi Rocks cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
Look At Your Game, Girl (Charles Manson cover, recorded May 1993 or later - likely after UYI Tour ended in July 1993, only by Axl, Dizzy and Carlos Booy) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident?
*MISSING* This I Love (Axl's piano instrumental) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (around London or Paris show 1992, or Sydney 1993) N/A N/A N/A
early sketch of Back And Forth Again (excerpt can be heard during the Making of Estranged documentary) N/A N/A Making of Estranged
       
The Complex Studio, LA + Slash's home studio sessions - January until March/April 1994 (Slash, Axl, Duff, Matt and Gilby) N/A N/A N/A
(recordings went nowhere, songs partly ended up released elsewhere, like Slash's Snakepit and Gilby Clarke's Pawnshop Guitars album) N/A N/A N/A
(Gilby fired and returned a couple of times in April/May to June 94, Duff's pancreas exploded on May 10th 94, Paul Huge was already around in summer 94)      
       
Sympathy Recording Session at Rumbo Recorders, Canoga Park - October 20-25 1994 - produced by Mike Clink, released December 27, 1994      
(Gilby clarke did NOT participate on these sessions, rhytm guitar was done by Paul Huge, Gilby was let go for good shortly after this)      
Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones cover) N/A N/A Interview With The Vampire OST, Sympathy For The Devil CDS, Greatest Hits
       
The Complex Studio, LA sessions - January-February 1995 (Slash, Duff, Axl and Matt Sorum, in January Zakk Wylde joined "for just over a week") N/A N/A N/A
(Zakk Wylde was still in contact with GNR and "jammed with them for six months" but it never got anywhere)      
       
Unknown studio recording by Duff and Izzy - around April 1995      
*MISSING* "10 pieces" including Down By The Ocean or Down By The Sea, Machine Gun (at least 3 takes) and Tooth Puller (the latter two dated April 18 1995) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
       
occasional studio rehearsals around July-August 1995 (Duff and Matt Sorum mostly during days, while Axl was there in the nights) N/A N/A N/A
Slash's home studio - (since Aug to "late fall 1995" - Slash and Duff tried sessions together with Paul Huge - "Slash musically involved for 2 week initial period") N/A N/A N/A
       
("The Shadow Company" - parallel studio lineup - Axl, Paul Huge, Dizzy, since Oct 94 to early Feb 95 also Sid Riggs and Krys Baratto, to about Aug 96)      
The Complex Studio, LA (?) sessions - for example "the folky nonsense" (Jun 96), or Shaq jamming (unclear if Feb 96 or April 1997 but 97 seems way off) N/A N/A N/A
       
(Slash returned for work with GNR in July 96)      
Unknown sessions at The Complex ("The Compound") - around July to October 1996 (Slash, Duff, Axl, Dizzy, Matt Sorum, Paul Huge - "the next Jackie Chan movie") N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* early sketch of Fall To Pieces *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A proper release by Velvet Revolver in 2004 at Contraband
(Slash left GNR for good before October 30th 1996)      
       
Oh My God (early version existed Feb/Mar 97 when Matt Sorum was still in) N/A N/A N/A
(in mid-January 97 Michael Bland auditioned as Matt Sorum was fired and returned a couple of times)      
(Moby involved Feb/Mar 97, stayed for a number of months, Mike Clink and Rick Rubin involved May 97, Moby was still there for some time)      
(in January or March 97 Robin Finck was approached, but he only joined in April 97, officially announced May 22nd 1997)      
(Matt Sorum left for good Mar/April 97, Chris Vrenna auditioned April 97, Dave Abbruzzese auditioning May 1997, Joey Castillo joined for summer 97 to August 97)
     
(Duff left in August 97)      
       
"Chinese Democracy eras" (note: only officially released tracks are available in lossless quality; all the "leaks" are LOSSY):      
       
1998-1999 studio sessions (Rumbo Recorders confirmed in early 1998, but preprod sessions seem to have only started in July going for rest of 1998)      
(Michael Bland auditioned Jan/Feb 98, Josh Freese joined March 98, Tommy Stinson first confirmed April 1998, Chris Pitman joined between April 98 and December 99)
     
(in September 98, Critter was the engineer, Sean Beavan began to be involved as producer)      
*MISSING* Prostitute, Madagascar (probably instrumentals only) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (confirmed to be produced by Youth Jan-Sep 1998) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* AFD '98-'99 *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (multiple re-recording are known to have been done, Sean Beavan NOT involved) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* This I Love *MISSING* (possibly the same old tape from UYI era) - considered for What Dreams May Come soundtrack in 1998 N/A N/A N/A
Curly Shuffle (tape with 11th May 1999 date appears at "Universal Music Group Opens its Iron Mountain Tape Vault And You are Invited!" video N/A N/A N/A
Sweet Child O' Mine (has completely new vocals over Paris 92 live version + final part is re-recorded in studio completely by 1999 band, produced by Sean Beavan as one-off(?), movie released June 25, 1999) N/A N/A Big Daddy (not part of the OST, available at Big Daddy Blu-ray)
       
"Live Era" - produced by Del James, Sean Beavan NOT involved, mixed by Andy Wallace July 12-29, released November 23, 1999      
(most of tracks have newly re-recorded vocals in studio by Axl sometime in the mid-99; instrumentals are overdubbed to some unknown extent)      
Nightrain - Las Vegas 1992-01-25 (97,7% vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Mr. Brownstone - London 1991-08-31 (98,8% of vocals re-recorded, some backing vocals rumored to be re-recorded by Robin Finck) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
It's So Easy - Paris 1992-06-06 + Rio 1991-01-20 (nothing re-recorded, here only as a reference) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Welcome To The Jungle - Tokyo 1992-02-20 + Las Vegas 1992-01-25 (66,6% of vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Dust N' Bones - Ritz 1991-05-16 + London 1991-08-31 (nothing re-recorded, here only as a reference) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
My Michelle - London 1991-08-31 (99,6% vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
You're Crazy - Tokyo 1988-12-10 (nothing re-recorded, here only as a reference) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Used To Love Her - Tokyo 1988-12-10 (23,4% of vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Patience - Mexico City 1993-04-24 + Las Vegas 1992-01-25 (nothing re-recorded, here only as a reference) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
It's Alright - Houston 1992-09-04 (no bootleg available for cross-reference, vocals seem original) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
November Rain - Tokyo 1992-02-22 (100% of vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Coma - Omaha 1993-04-10 (no bootleg available for cross-reference, vocals seem original) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Out Ta Get Me - London 1987-06-28 (nothing re-recorded, here only as a reference) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Pretty Tied Up - Tokyo 1992-02-22 (86,5% of vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Yesterdays - Las Vegas 1992-01-25 (nothing re-recorded, here only as a reference) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Move To The City - Tokyo 1992-02-22 (97,7% of vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
You Could Be Mine - Tokyo 1992-02-22 (41,6% of vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Rocket Queen - Las Vegas 1992-01-25 (98,5% of vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Sweet Child O' Mine - Paris 1992-06-06 (100% of vocals re-recorded, these are different from new vocals at Big Daddy SCOM) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Knockin' On Heaven's Door - London 1992-04-20 (0,9% of vocals re-recorded, unless it was taken from a different show) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Don't Cry - Tokyo 1992-02-22 (nothing re-recorded, here only as a reference) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Estranged - Tokyo 1992-02-22 (95,4% of vocals re-recorded) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
Paradise City - Las Vegas 1992-01-25 + London 1992-04-20 (nothing re-recorded, here only as a reference) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93
       
(Robin Finck left in August 1999, some of his parts were partly removed, replacements were considered - Dave Navarro, Stevie Salas, Zim Zum, Nick Nolan)      
Sean Beavan sessions (left very early 2000)      
Oh My God (released November 2, 1999) (produced by Sean Beavan, co-produced by Axl, mixed by Terry Date) N/A N/A End of Days OST
*MISSING* Daddy Can the Devil do Mommy and me? *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (composed by the same time End of Days was released) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* "The Beavan album" *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE](confirmed to have been mixed and mastered in late 1999 or early 2000 by George Marino) N/A N/A N/A
       
Brian May guest guitar (around mid-November 1999 or up to Christmas 1999, likely using older tracks from 1999, which might have Robin's parts removed)      
Catcher In The Rye N/A N/A N/A
Atlas Shrugged N/A N/A N/A
"third track May played on" - Tommy said Rhiad & The Bedouins, but Perhaps also sounds like him, maybe he played on more tracks back then N/A N/A N/A
       
2000 sessions - dates seem to likely indicate mixing dates rather than recording dates - RM1 disc indicates 11/08/00 is the "snapshot" date; all 4 discs also note "copied 3/15/01"
     
(the four Rough Mixes discs seem to be a mix of old Beavan tracks re-used as they were or with minor tweakings, and newly introduced Buckethead stuff)      
04 Oklahaoma (10) (3/23/00) (probably a typo of Oklahoma) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
01 Me & My Elvis (#10) (3/23/00) (probably another name for Leave Me Alone/Soul Monster/Elvis Presley & The Monster of Soul) (leaked September 21, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A
03 D Tune (11) (3/23/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A
04 Curly Shuffle (15) (3/23/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A
03 Atlas Shrugged (25) (3/27/00) (with Brian May guitar) "Rough Mixes CD #1" "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
04 Perhaps (19) (3/27/00) (leaked September 13, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
05 Prostitute (23) (3/27/00) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
06 Catcher (30) (3/27/00) (with Brian May guitar) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
05 Quick Song (10) (3/27/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
03 State of Grace (12) (3/27/00) (leaked September 13, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
06 I.R.S. (21) (3/27/00) (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak") "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
(Josh Freese finished drum parts before March 18 and left, it took Brain a few months until he joined - only officially confirmed October 2000)      
(some newer tracks still seem to be re-used Beavan mixes from 1999, the others already seem to be Roy Thomas Baker mixes - the two cooperated shortly in/around February 2000)
     
07 Tonto (BLK/FRG dat) (#3) (7/14/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
(Robin Finck rejoins between end of Fragility tour in July and official confirmation in October 2000)      
08 REAL DOLL.com (B. Head cd) (#2) (9/14/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
09 Shankler's Revenge (cd) (#1) (9/14/00) (might or might not be a typo, early version of Shackler's Revenge) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
(Ezrin likely joined sometime around Fall 2000, shortly after that they moved from Rumbo Recorders to The Village, West Los Angeles, CA - both first confirmed in October 2000)
     
(some of the following tracks or at least parts of them still seem to be older Beavan mixes from Rumbo, just re-used as they were or re-mixed by RTB)      
02 Dub Suplex (dat #5) (10/05/00) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
05 Devious Bastard (#6) (10/05/00) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
08 Dummy (#8) (10/05/00) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
02 There Was A Time (#10) (10/12/00) (leaked June 10, 2018) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
01 Billionare (dat #2) (10/15/00) (probably a typo of Billionaire) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
09 The Blues (#6) (10/23/00) (leaked June 10, 2018) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
10 I'm Sorry (B. Head cd) (#1) 10/26/00) (early version of Sorry) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
01 Madagascar (Drum Adds) (11/05/00) (leaked November 12, 2017) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
08 Chinese Democracy (Ver. 1) (11/05/00) "Rough Mixes CD #1" "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
06 Rhiad (ver. 1) (11/07/00) "Rough Mixes CD #1" "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
10 Silkworms (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) (leaked September 7, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A
02 Eye On You (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) (leaked September 20, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
03 If The World (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
04 Mustache (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
02 Circus Maximus (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A
06 As It Began (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) (leaked September 15, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A
01 P.R.L. w/out Thyme (no gtrs.) (11/08/00) (leaked October 3, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
06 Zodiac 13 (no vox) (Ver. 4) (11/08/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A
07 Hardschool (nu Ax) (12) (11/08/00) (formerly leaked as excerpt under title "Checkmate" or Jackie Chan) (leaked July 26, 2019, excerpt only) "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
05 Nothing (Ver. 1) (11/08/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A
07 Thyme (P.R.L.) (11/08/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A
09 The Blues (old Josh drums) (date unknown/uncertain, different than 10/23/00) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
07 Chinese Democracy (old Josh drums) (date unknown/uncertain, different than 11/05/00) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
11 Rhiad (old Josh drums) (date unknown/uncertain, different than 11/07/00) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
"1999 leaked demos" - almost certainly Beavan mixes from Rumbo Recorders, date of mixing circa Sep 1999 to Feb/March 2000      
(these have been leaked as "1999" originally, but it seems very likely that these actually are from the very same sessions as the "Village Rough Mixes 1-4")      
Catcher in The Rye (Brian May on guitar) (date unknown/uncertain, different than 3/27/00) (leaked Feb 28, 2006 - "darknemus leak") (leaked Feb 28, 2006) N/A
I.R.S. (date unknown/uncertain, almost certainly the same track as 3/27/00) (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak") "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A
There Was A Time (date unknown/uncertain, different than 10/12/00) (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak") (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak") N/A
Hard School (original excerpt leaked as bogus title "Checkmate", in 2008 confirmed working title "Jackie Chan") (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak", excerpt only) "Rough Mixes CD #3" (uncertain, only the excerpt was available for comparison) N/A
       
2001 sessions CDs - dates seem to indicate "date of snapshot" (or when disc was burned), some tracks might be older than the date indicated      
01 Inside Out (4/3/01) "Robin/Tommy demos" CD "Robin - Tommy demos" CD N/A
02 3 Dollar Pyramid (4/3/01) (early version of Better) "Robin/Tommy demos" CD "Robin - Tommy demos" CD N/A
03 10%er (or Ten Percenter) (4/3/01) (listed as Tommy Demo #1) "Robin/Tommy demos" CD "Robin - Tommy demos" CD N/A
04 Going Down acoustic (4/3/01) (listed as Tommy Demo #2) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Robin - Tommy demos" CD N/A
01 Chinese Democracy (Doubled Guitars) (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
02 Chinese Democracy (Single Guitars) (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
03 Quick Song (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
04 Prostitute (Original Drums) (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
05 Prostitute (Chopped Drums) (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
06 The Blues (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
07 Rhiad & The Bedouins (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
08 There Was A Time (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
09 Atlas Shrugged (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
10 Zodiac 13 (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A
01 Madagascar (drums up) ("version Tom likes") (06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
02 Madagascar (drums up, instrumental) (06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
03 Madagascar (drums up 3dB) (06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
04 Madagascar (drums down 3dB, instrumental) (06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
06 Madagascar (original Brain drums) (presumably older than 6/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
08 Chinese Democracy (new Brain drums) (presumably 06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
10 The Blues (new Brain drums) (presumably 06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
12 Rhiad (new Brain drums) (presumably 06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A
01 Madagascar (with vocals) (7/02/01) "Madagascar" CD "Madagascar" CD N/A
02 Madagascar (instrumental) (7/02/01) "Madagascar" CD "Madagascar" CD N/A
01 Rhiad (Original Rough Mix) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A
02 Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with Compression) (Vocals at Regular Level) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A
03 Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with Compression) (Vocals Up) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A
04 Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with No Compression) (Vocals at Regular Level) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A
05 Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with No Compression) (Vocals up) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A
01 The Blues (vocal at regular level) (7/13/01) "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD N/A
02 The Blues (vocal down 1dB) (7/13/01) "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD N/A
03 The Blues (instrumental) (7/13/01) "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD N/A
01 Rhiad (07/19/01) "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD N/A
02 Rhiad (Eq'd Toms) (07/19/01) "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD N/A
03 Prostitute (07/19/01) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD N/A
04 The Blues (07/19/01) "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD N/A
01 There Was A Time (less ambience on drums) (08/03/01) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A
02 There Was A Time (more ambience on drums) (08/03/01) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A
03 There Was A Time (snare compressed only) (08/03/01) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A
04 There Was A Time (strings up) (08/03/01) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A
01 Atlas Shrugged (drums at regular level) (08/20/01) (leaked August 20, 2019) "Atlas Shrugged - New Brain Drums" CD N/A
02 Atlas Shrugged (drums up 1,5dB) (08/20/01) (leaked September 5, 2019) "Atlas Shrugged - New Brain Drums" CD N/A
03 Atlas Shrugged (drums down 1,5dB) (08/20/01) "Atlas Shrugged - New Brain Drums" CD "Atlas Shrugged - New Brain Drums" CD N/A
01 There Was A Time (ambience down, mono room off) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A
02 There Was A Time (ambience down with mono room) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A
03 There Was A Time (ambience at original level) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A
04 There Was A Time (snare sample during outro only) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A
05 There Was A Time (first half with old snare, second half with snare sample only) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A
01 Chinese Democracy (drums and guitars at regular level) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A
02 Chinese Democracy (drums up 1dB) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A
03 Chinese Democracy (drums up 2dB) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A
04 Chinese Democracy (guitars up 2,5dB, drums at regular level) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A
05 Chinese Democracy (guitars up 1,5dB) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A
06 Chinese Democracy (guitars up 0,7dB) (9/06/01) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A
07 Chinese Democracy (instrumental with drums and guitars at regular level) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A
01 Quick Song (Bucket Take - Full Take Without Vocals) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
02 Quick Song (Bucket Take - Full Take with Vocal) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
03 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 0) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
04 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 1) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
05 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 2) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
06 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 3) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
07 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 4) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
08 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 5) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
09 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 6) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
10 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 7) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
11 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 8) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
12 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 9) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
13 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 10) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
14 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 11) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
15 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 12) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
16 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 13) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
17 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 14) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
18 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 15) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
19 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 16) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A
01 Knockin' (Acoustic Version) w/Axl (Take 3) (9/29/01) (leaked September 14, 2019) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A
02 Warmup... (9/29/01) (not an actual track, just some studio talking between songs, for some reason tracked separately) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A
03 Knockin' (Electric Version) (Take 5) (9/29/01) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A
04 Welcome To The Jungle (9/29/01) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A
05 Knockin' (Acoustic Version) (Take 3 from 10/08/01) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A
01 Prom Violence (Take 2) (11/13/01) "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD N/A
02 Prom Violence (Take 3) (11/13/01) "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD N/A
03 Three Dollar Pyramid (Take 2) (11/13/01) (early version of Better) (leaked September 15, 2019) "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD N/A
04 Three Dollar Pyramid (Take 4) (11/13/01) (early version of Better) "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD N/A
01 The Rebel (Take 1) (11/15/01) "The Rebel - Straight Analog Download" CD "The Rebel - Straight Analog Download" CD N/A
*MISSING* "The Roy Thomas Baker album" *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (mixing finished October 2001, RTB left February 2002) N/A N/A N/A
       
"2002 era" (Richard Fortus auditioned 17/18th May)      
*MISSING* Paul Buckmaster arrangements at Village Studios (July to September 2002) *MISSING* does not circulate      
The Blues N/A N/A N/A
There Was A Time N/A N/A N/A
Madagascar N/A N/A N/A
Prostitute N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Marco Beltrami orchestrations (also around July 2002, also probably at Village Studios) *MISSING* does not circulate      
Thyme N/A N/A N/A
Seven N/A N/A N/A
Leave Me Alone N/A N/A N/A
The General N/A N/A N/A
       
Boston/Albany radio promo (snippets of Chinese Democracy, Madagascar and The Blues) + tour promo videos (only Chinese Democracy and Madagascar) N/A N/A Boston and Albany radio promo, tour promo video
       
"Piazza incident" and "Crazy Horse Too strip club discs" demos - not newer than July 2003      
I.R.S. (played on Piazza-Trunk Aug 30, 2003) (leaked Feb 15, 2006) N/A
There Was A Time (short version) (leaked Feb 17, 2006) (leaked Feb 17, 2006) N/A
There Was A Time (long version) (leaked Feb 17, 2006) (leaked Feb 17, 2006) N/A
Better (leaked Feb 22, 2006) (leaked Feb 22, 2006) N/A
I.R.S. (instrumental) (leaked Mar 10, 2006) (leaked Mar 10, 2006) N/A
There Was A Time (short version instrumental) (leaked Mar 15, 2006) (leaked Mar 15, 2006) N/A
There Was A Time (long version instrumental) (leaked Mar 14, 2006) (leaked Mar 14, 2006) N/A
Better (instrumental) (leaked Mar 08, 2006) (leaked Mar 08, 2006) N/A
       
The Village Studios sessions briefly resumed in January 2004, ended in February 2004      
Woodland Ranch Studios, Los Angeles, CA confirmed in April 2004 and summer 2005      
Patti Smith recorded her harp parts for This I Love in about mid-2005      
       
"2006 Bumblefoot guitar overlays" - BBF received an older demo track to lay guitar upon, shortly after he joined (recorded May 2006, demos are 2000-ish)      
Going Down (BBF playing, but final part is BH) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) N/A
Oh My God (no BBF guitar, all left channel is BH) (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 07, 2018) N/A
Silkworms (BBF playing, but final part is BH) (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 08, 2018) N/A
*MISSING* Atlas Shrugged *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A
       
"Harley Davidson Incident"      
Better (the same version as used in officially un-released via Harley Davidson commercial, scheduled to go on air in early November 2006) (leaked Feb 20, 2007) (leaked Feb 20, 2007) Harley Davidson commercial (unused alternate version)
       
"2007 leaked demos"      
Madagascar (leaked Mar 29, 2007) (leaked Mar 29, 2007) N/A
Chinese Democracy (leaked May 05, 2007) (leaked May 05, 2007) N/A
The Blues (leaked May 05, 2007) (leaked May 05, 2007) N/A
I.R.S. (leaked May 05, 2007) (leaked May 05, 2007) N/A
There Was A Time (leaked May 06, 2007) (leaked May 06, 2007) N/A
*MISSING* Rhiad And The Bedouins *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reported by Classic Rock - unsure if from the same batch as leaks) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Prostitute *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reported by Classic Rock - unsure if from the same batch as leaks) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Atlas Shrugged (with Brian May on guitar) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reported by Classic Rock - unsure if from the same batch as leaks) N/A N/A N/A
*MISSING* Silkworms *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reported by Classic Rock - unsure if from the same batch as leaks) N/A N/A N/A
       
"2008 Antiquiet leaks" (mixed by Andy Wallace)      
Better (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
Chinese Democracy (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
I.R.S. (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
Madagascar (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
The Blues (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
There Was A Time (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
Rhiad And The Bedouins (as "New Song #1") (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
Prostitute (as "New Song #2") (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
If The World (as "New Song #3") (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A
Shackler's Revenge (as "Chicken Dinner") - not neccessarily from the same "batch" as the others (leaked Aug 14, 2008) (leaked Aug 14, 2008) N/A
      N/A
Chinese Democracy album versions - released November 23rd 2008, produced by Axl and Caram Costanzo; album recording possibly finished in Feb 2007 already      
01 Chinese Democracy N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
02 Shackler's Revenge N/A N/A Rock Band 2, Chinese Democracy
03 Better N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
04 Street of Dreams (renamed from The Blues) N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
05 If The World N/A N/A Body Of Lies (not part of the OST), Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
06 There Was A Time N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
07 Catcher In The Rye N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
08 Scraped (renamed from Lies They Tell) N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
09 Riad N' The Bedouins (unsure if this has always been the real name, or renamed from Rhiad And The Bedouins) N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
10 Sorry N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
11 I.R.S. N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
12 Madagascar N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
13 This I Love N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
14 Prostitute N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC
*MISSING* Atlas Shrugged (with Bumblefoot on guitar) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (was almost included on the album but didn't fit in the end) N/A N/A N/A
       
"Bumblefoot Barefoot EP sessions" - summer or fall 2008      
Better (recorded together with other songs, released on Barefoot EP) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) N/A
       
"DJ Ashba tracks" - summer or fall 2009      
Better (leaked Aug 16, 2013) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) N/A
Ballad of Death (guitar solo) (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 26, 2018) N/A
Mi Amor (guitar solo) (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 26, 2018) N/A
       
Brain remixes - at least April 2009 to roughly 2010 (at least some of those confirmed to be a collaboration with Melissa Reese)      
Shackler's Revenge (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 26, 2018) N/A
If The World (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 26, 2018) N/A
Prostitute (leaked as "Blood In The Water") (leaked May 07, 2012) (leaked May 07, 2012) N/A
Better (leaked as "Better Gone") - submitted by Brain to Fernando on Christmas 2009 (leaked Jan 2012) (leaked Jan 2012) N/A
This I Love (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 10, 2018) N/A
*MISSING* Unknown remix (possibly Sorry) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (Brain reportedly made 6 remixes but it's not known which was the sixth song) N/A N/A N/A
       
"Vienna aftershow party" - songs played in a club after show at 18th September, from unknown session(s) before that      
Silkworms (incomplete, might or might not be the same as used in "Bumblefoot 2006 guitar overlay track") Mindray11 cellphone recording Mindray11 cellphone recording N/A
Monsters (incomplete, originally thought to be The General) Mindray11 cellphone recording Mindray11 cellphone recording N/A
       
NITL lineup sessions:      
       
(known sessions at Axl's house in April 2019, January 2020 and later 2020)      
       
Absurd (web single) - released August 8th 2021 - a mixture of old (pre-)Village vocals, Brain drums, BH guitar and new guitar tracks by Slash (maybe also Duff and even Fortus)
     
Absurd (stylised ABSUЯD, renamed from Silkworms) N/A N/A Absurd (web download)
       
Hard Skool (web single) - released September 24th 2021 - a mixture of old (pre-)Village vocals, new guitar and bass by Slash, Duff and Fortus, and likely Brain on drums; with sampled vocals originally from Eye On You
     
Hard Skool (renamed from Hard School) N/A N/A Hard Skool (web download)
       
November Rain (2022 version) - replaced the original 1991 album version on 2022 remastered UYI release; original orchestra replaced by with new one; mixed by Steven Wilson
     
November Rain (2022 version) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I (2022 remastered edition)
*MISSING* Steven Wilson Atmos remix of the UYI boxset *MISSING* [WAS EVENTUALLY NOT USED FOR RELEASE] N/A N/A N/A
       
Perhaps (web single) - released August 18th 2023 - a mixture of old (pre-)Village vocals, new guitar and bass by Slash, Duff and Fortus, Brain drums, leftover of Robin Finck solo
     
Perhaps (leaked Aug 12 through Touchtunes) N/A Perhaps (web download)
       
Perhaps (LP) - release pushed from October 27th to December 8th 2023; Monsters probably intended to be released together with TG but it didn't happen      
The General (leaked Oct 27) N/A Perhaps 7" LP, web download
Monsters (leaked Oct 27) N/A N/A
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ok guys, to clear up the widespread confusion at least a little bit, the time has come for me to share my - still provisional - table. using all available sources I could find, I tried to collect as m

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Sorry to bump a slightly inactive thread but I didn't know where to else put this. I went down a rabbit hole this morning regarding the rumored re-recording of SOYL by the NITL lineup. From what

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But hey, weren't live era recordings to be placed in 97/99?

I heard once that in the canadian version of Live Era is written that axl re-recorded his vocals in '97. 
Also, I might be the only one, but i can CLEARLY hear Finck's voice in "Mr.Browstone".

I guess it's missin' maddy in the 2001 list. 

PS : I'm not tryin' to be the ass here, just wanting to fullfil this list even more.

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I'll make a list of what i think it's missin 

1 - Live Era Studio Sessions (Axl clearly re-recorded his voice, and there''s a lot of new guitar parts n' solos. Also, @troccoli has a '96 live era promo. I don't know if it has the same vocals or not) 
2. Maddy 2001 in the 2001 List. Also, Roy Thomas Baker started to work with GN'R in the fall of 2000. 
3. AFD '99 - Rumbo Recorders Studio, San Francisco, CA 1998. Also, it has been reported that the instrumental version of patience 98/99 has leaked a couple years ago, wich i think is a complete bullshit, but worth the info, anyway.
4. Shadow Of Your Love - The 1st Released one was recorded 'round 2-4 june '87 in mystic studios.
5. 1998 New Songs - Ides Of March, Oklahoma/Berlin, Oh My God, This I Love (What Dreams May Come Version)

 

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Thanks for this!

I posted my opinion on the Civil War recording timeline in the KOHD-Days of Thunder thread before I saw this one.

I think it was recorded before June 1990, probably in April-May:

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The Spaghetti Incident sessions:

1. Down On The Farm and Ain't It Fun were also part of the UYI recordings (unknown sessions - uncirculated)

   Sources about Down On The Farm:

   https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/slash-the-rolling-stone-interview-189160/

   http://www.a-4-d.com/t2885-1991-05-26-interview-with-duff-on-detroit-free-press

   The recording of Ain't It Fun (with vocals) was mentioned in Axl's 1991 MTV interview with Kurt Loder (and of course there is the hint on the UYI booklet)

2. You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory (Duff) was recorded some time during the tour in 1991 (I have to look for the source, but I've read it in one of the interviews of the time)

3. Gilby says here

  http://www.a-4-d.com/t607-1994-05-24-interview-with-gilby

 that there were seven songs recorded with Izzy. If he didn't count You Can't Put Your Arms... in those, it's possible that there was one more recording during the UYI sessions, probably Human Being (instrumental at least)

4. Hair Of The Dog, Raw Power and possibly Human Being were recorded in various sessions during the UYI tour between 1992-93 (sources: the Gilby interview and other interviews). Buick Makane was recorded either during the tour too or a little after that (source: Axl and Slash Rockline interview, Jan. 1994).

5. They recorded more songs during the tour: "a couple of Hanoi Rocks songs that never made it, and a bunch of Iggy Pop songs that never made it, though one did make it. We recorded a bunch of stuff over a year, every now and then" (Gilby). Slash also mentions here that they recorded another Stooges song but Axl liked the Raw Power vocal better.

So there is definitely uncirculated stuff related to TSI sessions that could be included in a UYI box set.

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The TIL demo sessions: possibly Paris 1992, London 1992 and Sydney 1993 (source: Chinese Whispers)

 

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CD eras:

- Beavan said on the GNR Central podcast that he wasn't involved in the AFD re-recording.

- He also said that the songs he has a credit for on CD have the same vocals he had recorded. So there must be unleaked demos with vocals from the Beavan era for CD the song, The Blues, Madagascar, Riad and Prostitute. CD and The Blues are also mentioned (besides TWAT, IRS and Catcher) in the RS interview from Jan. 2000 as songs that were played for the interviewer; Oklahoma is also mentioned as played as an instrumental (from this it must be presumed that the other mentioned songs had vocals).

EDIT: Also Youth produced demos from 1998-99: Prostitute (mentioned by Youth on the GNR Central podcast), Madagascar. Most likely instrumentals only.

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Not sure if this counts? The title said "& related" which I guess this is. From a french interview in 2001...

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Izzy: In April, 1995, Duff calls me again: "I'm trying to compose new songs for the guys in GN'R. Come and give me a hand." [...] I'd left Guns but I said to myself: 'Well shit, after all, why not?' Duff and I wrote ten pieces in the space of a week. We even recorded them as demos.


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Izzy: In '95, Duff and me recorded songs for the band [GN'R]. We made a tape that went nowhere. Then, a couple of months ago I have a message on my answering machine: 'Yo! It's Axl, I need a copy of the songs that you did.' There was one called 'Down by the Ocean' or 'Down by the Sea', they may have used it.

 

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33 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Agreed, I'm just not sure where. 

@zombux are you cool with this being pinned in The Jungle perhaps? 

Cool.

What about the Downloads section?

Should be somewhere easily accessible for people who have an interest in collecting, tracking down this material.

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4 hours ago, RussTCB said:

Agreed, I'm just not sure where. 

@zombux are you cool with this being pinned in The Jungle perhaps? 

I'm really not sure where this belongs, it doesn't fit very much into any forum. I guess it would get lost in The Jungle. maybe Downloads would be the best?

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4 hours ago, Blackstar said:

So there is definitely uncirculated stuff related to TSI sessions that could be included in a UYI box set.

thanks for info. UYI section in the sheet is very sketchy yet, I only put some of the info there. I really hope some UYI box set will come and clear the confusion.

I went through all booklets of every single album and single and tried to get some info, but no luck there. 

AFD was recorded in 3 studios, possibly some instruments here, others there, then it was mixed together, but that's all we know (my source: AFD Engineer Micajah Ryan https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7873768/guns-n-roses-appetite-for-destruction-oral-history)

UYI is a complete mess, and they seem to be VERY unwilling to give studio details. even every single song released as single has the exact same info about studios attached - 6 of them. and that's probably bullshit, even though anything is possible.

I only found some recording info for GITR and SIDHY, not sure if this was only listed at HTGTH or also elsewhere.

what a damn mess...

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8 minutes ago, donny said:

"2001 demos"

only 3 songs ? madagascar, the blues and TWAT

i have a chinese democracy(the song) demo from 2001

I heard that one, I think it's fanmade/fake. definitely NOT leaked with the 2001 wave of leaks and it sounds suspiciously too close to RIR2001 and 2002 live versions

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3 minutes ago, zombux said:

I heard that one, I think it's fanmade/fake. definitely NOT leaked with the 2001 wave of leaks and it sounds suspiciously too close to RIR2001 and 2002 live versions

oh ok. it was posted a few years ago on the youtube channel belonging to the person that gave you 2001 madagascar so thought it must be genuine

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5 minutes ago, donny said:

oh ok. it was posted a few years ago on the youtube channel belonging to the person that gave you 2001 madagascar so thought it must be genuine

the person is full of shit :) I'm not saying it's 100% fake, anything is possible. but I think that it's unlikely. might be similar situation to "Going Down 2002" which was pretended to be a real thing, and in the end it was just an edit.

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9 hours ago, NeonKinight said:

4. Shadow Of Your Love - The 1st Released one was recorded 'round 2-4 june '87 in mystic studios.

do you have some more info for this? because I think you are wrong here and in fact it was 2-4 June 1986 in Sound City.

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