ludurigan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 6 hours ago, jacdaniel said: None of them have consistently managed that since the 90s though. Axl spends too long thinkering, over analyzing, copying and pasting layers, feeling a need to have to evolve. Also won't do any PR. Izzy can write the bare bones of a good rock song but doesn't have a band that can turn it into a classic, finished song. Also won't tour or do PR. Slash can play great guitar and do all the PR but isn't able to translate that into great songs. Probably why they made a good team and had less success individually i see your point, its a good one. i would say i agree 100% with you but i have some doubts axl - does axl really spends time "thinkering, over analyzing, copying and pasting layers"? i dont think he does. I don't think axl spends time writing music AT ALL. i think that for the last 28 years he was probably doing whatever else 90% of the time -- like watching TV or drinking all day or laying on the sofa or whatever, except working on music. i would go on and say that he likely spent 90-95% of the 13 years he took to do his solo album doing nothing, just procrastinating. axl again - does axl really feels "a need to have to evolve"? There is some evidence -- if you believe in Zakk Wylde, for example -- that Axl was obsessed in being "current", "modern", etc, to the point that he was envying pearl jam (!) and limp bizkit (!!) in the mid-90s (). that has nothing to do with desire to evolve musically. that has everything to do with the desire to look good. which is understandable (we all wanna be admired, don't we) but pretty pathetic, isn't it? Izzy can write good rock songs rock songs and some fucking great ones and he has a good enough band to make them sound very nice. But, yeah, i see your point, of course he doesn't have a guitar player like slash and his singing doesn't have the drama-quality that Axl singing has (used to have?), which would automatically improve all of his songs and eventually turn a lot of them into classics. agree 100% with what you said about slash: can play great guitar but isn't able to translate that into great songs. all that leads me to the conclusion that these guys should #1) be together in a band again,like, for example, GNR could reunite, couldnt it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoking guns Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 @Gibbo is dead on about Eric Dover... That video of him doing SCOM was just last year. The fucker still sounds great. He wrote great lyrics, he was different. I would argue outside of Axl, Dover was his most talented front man. Back in 1995 Geffen pulled them from the road. Now in 2018 Slash says Dover wasn't comfortable. Looks comfortable now!! Look at him sing Weiland! NOTHING GENERIC ABOUT THIS GUY! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ludurigan said: i see your point, its a good one. i would say i agree 100% with you but i have some doubts axl - does axl really spends time "thinkering, over analyzing, copying and pasting layers"? i dont think he does. I don't think axl spends time writing music AT ALL. i think that for the last 28 years he was probably doing whatever else 90% of the time -- like watching TV or drinking all day or laying on the sofa or whatever, except working on music. i would go on and say that he likely spent 90-95% of the 13 years he took to do his solo album doing nothing, just procrastinating. axl again - does axl really feels "a need to have to evolve"? There is some evidence -- if you believe in Zakk Wylde, for example -- that Axl was obsessed in being "current", "modern", etc, to the point that he was envying pearl jam (!) and limp bizkit (!!) in the mid-90s (). that has nothing to do with desire to evolve musically. that has everything to do with the desire to look good. which is understandable (we all wanna be admired, don't we) but pretty pathetic, isn't it? Izzy can write good rock songs rock songs and some fucking great ones and he has a good enough band to make them sound very nice. But, yeah, i see your point, of course he doesn't have a guitar player like slash and his singing doesn't have the drama-quality that Axl singing has (used to have?), which would automatically improve all of his songs and eventually turn a lot of them into classics. agree 100% with what you said about slash: can play great guitar but isn't able to translate that into great songs. all that leads me to the conclusion that these guys should #1) be together in a band again,like, for example, GNR could reunite, couldnt it? One thing. I remember once somebody said something about Izzy on this forum. I think it was that Izzy doesn't like to go on tour. You told him by telling such half truths he would arise rumours. Imo you're doing the same now. It's nothing more than your opinion that Izzy writes great songs as well as it's your opinion that Slash can't write great songs. To a lot of people, me included, there are at least one or two great songs on each Slash album post Guns. At least. While I just heard one or two complete Izzy songs post guns. All the rest were half-baked imo. So pretending such things to be a fact is nothing else as spreading rumours. Edited September 19, 2018 by Free Bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Free Bird said: One thing. I remember once somebody said something about Izzy on this forum. I think it was that Izzy doesn't like to go on tour. You told him by telling such half truths he would arise rumours. Imo you're doing the same now. It's nothing more than your opinion that Izzy writes great songs as well as it's your opinion that Slash can't write great songs. To a lot of people, me included, there are at least one or two great songs on each Slash album post Guns. At least. While I just heard one or two complete Izzy songs post guns. All the rest were half-baked imo. So pretending such things to be a fact is nothing else as spreading rumours. thats just my opinion i am not saying by any means those are facts i know that a lot of people find izzy stuff boring etc that has nothing to do with the constant endless repetition of "izzy wont tour" "izzy cant play" "steven cant play" bullshit Edited September 19, 2018 by ludurigan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I don't know about Izzy's rock stuff, most of it is just chords. Which is fine in small doses, but you really start to miss the badass riffs after a while 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Gives ya a idea what slashs is playing 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skik08 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 http://silvertigermedia.com.au/2018/09/album-review-slash-ft-myles-kennedy-the-conspirators-living-the-dream/ Ok now I'm crazy hyped again! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner55 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I say this fully intending to buy a physical copy in a few days, but has this really not leaked yet?! That's insane in this day and age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, skik08 said: http://silvertigermedia.com.au/2018/09/album-review-slash-ft-myles-kennedy-the-conspirators-living-the-dream/ Ok now I'm crazy hyped again! The Great Pretender sounds alright Sugar Cane followed by utterly brilliant The Great Pretender, as I start to feel more than a little bipolar. This track is truly dazzling in every way possible and every note played to perfection by the perfect performer. Again, one wonders if anyone but The Conspirators could possibly have brought such raw emotion bleeding to the fore from every pore. The solos…oh god, the solos. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Gunner55 said: I say this fully intending to buy a physical copy in a few days, but has this really not leaked yet?! That's insane in this day and age. Slash must have a small and tight nit recording crew in the studio. Edited September 19, 2018 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC20 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Very cool review , I guess myself and a few on this board love the new album , because I do , but most of the haters on here don't and that's cool too, as a lifelong SLASH fan -I am a happy MOFO because SLASH slays on this record , riffs and solos like no other JUST LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES -SLASH is a the top of his game right now-HEY AXL? WHERE THE FUCK U AT? Because SLASH is ready to create the best GNR ALBUM POSSIBLE, STEP AND LETS GET THIS DON E PS I play guitar in a band and have for a long time , making a record is very hard, so all of you critics bashing MYLES , how many records have u cats made ? do u cats even play a instrument ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC20 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: Slash must have a small and tight nit recording crew in the studio. THE ALORE OF GNR - I love it , just like no one knew anything about what GNR were doing during the tour and who knows they may have a record in the can , SMKC has no leaks at all in this time and age -fucking brilliant -I love that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, TMAC20 said: Very cool review , I guess myself and a few on this board love the new album , because I do , but most of the haters on here don't and that's cool too, as a lifelong SLASH fan -I am a happy MOFO because SLASH slays on this record , riffs and solos like no other JUST LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES -SLASH is a the top of his game right now-HEY AXL? WHERE THE FUCK U AT? Because SLASH is ready to create the best GNR ALBUM POSSIBLE, STEP AND LETS GET THIS DON E PS I play guitar in a band and have for a long time , making a record is very hard, so all of you critics bashing MYLES , how many records have u cats made ? do u cats even play a instrument ? WTF? What “haters” are you talking about? So to you, anybody that says that 2 of the 3 singles are generic crap are “haters”? And also just because you don’t play an instrument that doesn’t mean you can’t know about music or if a song sucks or not. Your logic (and also your posts) are pathetic. You are just the typical person who thinks that criticizing something makes you a hater. You make me laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_k Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 @GNRfanMILO Every-time i see his posts I know to skip. Usually identifiable by CAPS followed BY non CAPS 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacdaniel Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Intrigued by The Great Pretender... Those reviews are really bigging this song up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, TMAC20 said: I play guitar in a band and have for a long time , making a record is very hard, so all of you critics bashing MYLES , how many records have u cats made ? do u cats even play a instrument ? Do you watch movies and not say it's shit if it's shit because you aren't a movie director that made movies? Same retarded logic Edited September 19, 2018 by StrangerInThisTown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 11 hours ago, moreblack said: I don't know about Izzy's rock stuff, most of it is just chords. Which is fine in small doses, but you really start to miss the badass riffs after a while i suppose you are correct thats why they are perfect together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Some people in AB group on facebook got the album early. I guess leak is coming soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoKiss344 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Can't wait for another boring radio rock album!!!! Edited September 19, 2018 by PsychoKiss344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 the negativity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoKiss344 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, moreblack said: the negativity Well literally everything Slash and Myles have released has been generic radio rock bullshit lol So people have a reason to be negative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, moreblack said: the negativity To be honest reception on the Alter Bridge forums isn't that great either 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Just now, StrangerInThisTown said: To be honest reception on the Alter Bridge forums isn't that great either True, but if AB is what they're all about, this is definitely not that. I do wish Myles had someone like Todd to harmonize with in AB. Edited September 19, 2018 by moreblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said: To be honest reception on the Alter Bridge forums isn't that great either AB doesn't get a great reception there either. Just go through that topic about orchestra show dvd, people write essays about how it sucks cause it's not mixed like they wanted to (they're aren't saying it's bad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchGNRfan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 This thread is boring If you don’t enjoy Slash’s music what are you doing here ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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