Free Bird Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: The singles are more like WoF. The rest of the shorter tracks are a bit more "punchy" or "popy" and less sleazy hard rock like WoF. I guess most Slash solo material can be considered pop rock, but I get 2010 vibes on songs like Sugar Cane, The One You Loved is Gone, Read Between the Lines, Slow Grind, and Boulevard of Broken Hearts. The riffs and leads are less GNResque. Put a different singer on each one, and it'd remind me of the 2010 record. Guess I'll have to wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 How about making a separate thread for each song on the Slash forum to discuss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: The singles are more like WoF. The rest of the shorter tracks are a bit more "punchy" or "popy" and less sleazy hard rock like WoF. I guess most Slash solo material can be considered pop rock, but I get 2010 vibes on songs like Sugar Cane, The One You Loved is Gone, Read Between the Lines, Slow Grind, and Boulevard of Broken Hearts. The riffs and leads are less GNResque. Put a different singer on each one, and it'd remind me of the 2010 record. That is almost exactly how I feel about this record. Especially the part you said about the different singers. I really liked WOF but this is a different feel. A good feel but a different feel just not what I was expecting. I like it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Serve You Right is fucking badass! So far, it seems like the singles didn’t help with the promotion. Will post a full review when I’m done listening to the whole thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Did anyone else in the US just get an email from Roadrunner saying that at VIP package they purchased was backordered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Wow just got a email from Roadrunner telling me that my autograph and hardcover book are now on back order and that they can still send me the CD. I'm tempted to tell them I already have the CD and to cancel my fucking order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said: Serve You Right is fucking badass! So far, it seems like the singles didn’t help with the promotion. Will post a full review when I’m done listening to the whole thing. Yeah, when they said 80s Aerosmith rnr I thought they'll make songs like that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, WAR41 said: Did anyone else in the US just get an email from Roadrunner saying that at VIP package they purchased was backordered? Yep. I was wondering if that means they just don't have it yet and are still going to send it or if that means sorry but we're not ever fucking sending it. I am pissed. I just sent them that question worded a little differently lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said: Serve You Right is fucking badass! So far, it seems like the singles didn’t help with the promotion. Will post a full review when I’m done listening to the whole thing. That's my biggest fear right now. Serve You Right seems to be one of the better songs and I like the verses but that chorus fucks it up for me. At least the live version but I don't think it will sound different on record. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Free Bird said: That's my biggest fear right now. Serve You Right seems to be one of the better songs and I like the verses but that chorus fucks it up for me. At least the live version but I don't think it will sound different on record. They really shouldn't even have choruses if they can't write more than 4 different ones for the album I mean The Great Pretender doesn't really have one, they could do something like that more often. I always imagine Liam Gallagher's Wall of Glass as an example, chorus is "waaaall of glaaasss" and a little riff and it sounds pretty good. You don't have to go for arena rock anthem thing every time when you clearly can't Edited September 19, 2018 by Nicklord 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Now they are doing this but can't send out the pre-orders? Fuck them. Oh and look as I am typing they just charged my card. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The ballad solo just SCREAMS Guns! One of the highlights of the album so far. For now, i’d say that if you didn’t like the singles, then the album is going to surprise you. And if you did like them, then you’ll probably love it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tourettes2400 said: Now they are doing this but can't send out the pre-orders? Fuck them. Oh and look as I am typing they just charged my card. Dude they did the exact same thing to me with the credit card!! Unreal. I did enter the contest though, thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted September 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Alright, here is my inevitable review on the first listen. Its overly long like all my reviews, I know some people in this thread seem to be upset with the seemingly negative reception some of the first singles have received on here. I'll start this post saying I am a HUGE Slash fan. The dude is my favorite guitar player. Not only that, I really like Myles and the rest of this band. Like a lot of people on here, I feel like I sort of "grew up" (at least in my young adult years) with them, in the sense that I've been following them since their formation. I was in my freshman year of college when Slash's first solo record came out and I played the hell out of it. Starlight was my favorite and it helped me get more into Myles and Alter Bridge. I was psyched Myles became Slash's singer. Even though I like him, I do totally see and understand the points of view some others have regarding him. Especially after the third album. Anyways, I was super excited for Apocalyptic Love and for me it delivered. I saw a bunch of shows that tour and even got to meet Slash. It fucking ruled. I also saw them once on the first album tour and WoF tour each and was at the Hall of Fame. Love and support these dudes. I was so fired up for AL and WoF. This new album got me nostalgic, so I went back to the WoF thread. Its like 160 pages and I started it like a year before the album was announced or something stupid. I was that excited. I still love that album, even though it has quite a bit of filler. So I am definitely a huge fan of these dudes, not a hater or anything. Track by track, The Call of the Wild- I like the weird start and stop intro. The choruses will later on prove to be some of the weakest points on this record, but I like the chorus here. Its fun and works for the song. Solo fits the song, although it isn't anything mind blowing. Sort of reminds me of the middle solo in Nightrain I guess. Song is alright. Serve You Right- Yeahhhhh. This tune smokes. Killer guitar work from Slash. I love the riff and the lead game is strong throughout. Myles sounds cool in the verses. The chorus doesn't elevate the song, but doesn't detract from it either. This is probably one of my favorites on the album. My Antidote- This is by far my favorite of the singles we've gotten so far. Cool riff and intro. Solo is pretty good, especially the start of it. Chorus and verses all flow together and I like the background wah parts on the verses. Wish the second verse wasn't shorter. Feels abrupt. Mind Your Manners- Sounds like a WoF leftover. Lyrics are pretty stupid. Its not offensively bad or anything, just lackluster. Now that we have heard the whole album I actually appreciate a quick hard rock tune. I just wish it was a better one. Lost Inside the Girl- They really (the band and some reviews/previews) hyped this one up and it falls short because of the stupid fucking chorus and song structure. I had a grin on when it started. Sounded like a sleazy Snakepit tune. Myles started great on the verse. "Oh shit, this is going to be unreal"... nope its fucking not. The chorus sounds like a country pop song. What the fuck were they thinking. It doesn't fit the song at all and makes it sound like a shitty ballad when it could have instead been a really cool and creepy song. Like, its not an inherently bad sounding chorus, its just disappointing thinking about what the song could have been. Then, I was hoping after the main solo the song would shift direction for something different and cool in the second half. Nope, we get the chorus again. The solos are great, but man, what a missed opportunity for them to have done something different and cool. Read Between the Lines- Really dig it. I don't know if its the production or what, but for the most part the rest of the album reminds me more of the 2010 album. Its cleaner sounding (whatever that means) with less Slash/GNR-like riffs. That doesn't mean these songs don't rock, though. They don't change the game, but Myles' melodies work great on this one. Really good solo. Slash has some great notes to hold runs on in between the shredding. Great lead tone, too. This is probably one of my favorites. Slow Grind- Another one I really dig. This and Read Between the Lines are sort of quick filler tracks that kick ass to me. This is a pretty poppy one, for sure. Also really impressed by the solo in this one. He actually planned something out it seems, and its great. Some awesome technique in that one. Also some great background fills throughout the song. The One You Loved is Gone- What the fuck. Its a straight up pop song. It isn't bad, but I'm not going through a breakup, so pass. Good solo, I guess. Meh, this could have been side by side with Gotten on the first album. Driving Rain- Generic and boring although the riff is great and verses are alright. Like Mind Your Manners, I would have liked a few more WoF-y songs, just better ones. Chorus is so singalongy and boring and the bridge is fucking stupid. Why are they revisiting Standing in the Sun (a much better song, anyways)? Pass. Sugar Cane- Really cool riff. Pop rock with some Slash guitar. Its definitely filler, but its alright. Typical run of the mill Slash solo on this one. The Great Pretender- Slash channels Still Got the Blues by Gary Moore. Awesome tone on the leads throughout the song. Myles sounds good on the verses but it suffers a bit from SMKC-chorus-syndrome. Not quite something like Lost Inside the Girl or Driving Rain where it detracts from the song for me. One of the best solos on the record and I actually wish it went a little longer. It IS a good song. I dig it quite a bit, but this is another example where I think someone else could have helped elevate it (ok, I'm talking about Axl). The leads and verses are great. The chorus and bridge are alright. They're fine... they just don't make the song better imo. The song sort of plods on with everything going at the same tempo with the same sounds. I would have loved some really different parts to bring it home. Still, its a good song. A little different for these guys, so that is good. Boulevard of Broken Hearts- Another decent short pop rock song. I dig the Fleetwood Mac guitar. It doesn't stand out, but its fun. Its fine. I quite like Slash's tone on the solo. And its done. So I like the album, but I am quite underwhelmed. I've probably listened to all the songs twice now (except Lost Inside the Girl) so obviously that isn't enough to rank it. I know a lot of people will say its just like any other SMKC project, but for me it wasn't quite what I was expecting. WoF had a lot of filler (Stone Blind, Avalon, The Dissident), but I love that record. It was more hard pop-rock and some of the songs reminded me of more modern hard rock. I also really like AL, its stripped down and quick with some real standout songs. There is no Anastasia on Living the Dream, there is no Wicked Stone and that is disappointing. There isn't that one really cool standout song that knocks me off my feet. My favorites are probably Serve You Right, My Antidote, Read Between the Lines, and Slow Grind. They are cool songs, but stuff like Wicked Stone, The Unholy, Beneath the Savage Sun, etc really excited me on the last album. These are just cool Slash tunes. I think some of the solos are great on here, but for the most part there aren't as many that really jump out at me and grab me. The choruses overall are more generic than ever and actually hurt some of the songs. They weren't anything new on WoF, but choruses were catchy and way better on that album (Shadow Life, Automatic Overdrive, title track, 30 Years to Life, Withered Delilah, etc) I also think his tone is a different on this album and for some songs it works while others it doesn't as much. It almost sounds like he isn't using humbuckers on a lot of parts. I like single coils but with Slash we are all used to the Les Paul/Marshall combo. His normal tone shines through on a lot of the solos, but some of the rhythm parts and riffs I wish were beefier. I kind of had the same complaint as Avalon on the last record but that was only one song where my ears picked up on that so I didn't mind it as much. Might be a different guitar or amp, or the production, or I could just be crazy. The production is very clean and perfect on this, and not as raw (ok none of these multi million dollar releases are raw, but more simple?) as AL or even WoF. I don't think its a protools thing, as countless albums are recorded digitally. It sounds good, its just different and makes the album seem more poppy. Maybe thats why it reminds me of the 2010 album. Overall, I'm disappointed but it isn't a bad record... its fine. I'm glad to have more SMKC songs and I'm glad they are back. If this was the album we got in 2012 or 2014 I probably would have been gushing because I just love Slash and I like hearing him play guitar. I do think this is definitely weaker than AL and WoF, but I was still way more hyped for those albums before they were released. I said in an earlier post that I couldn't put my finger on what I thought was wrong and why I wasn't nearly as excited as I was for AL and WoF (I didn't think the singles were that amazing for WoF although they are better than these singles). I think after listening to Living the Dream I know what it is, Its fucking GNR. Myles, Todd, Brent, and Frank are great. This band has been a lot of fun for me over the years and I respect them all as an independent band and as individual musicians. Fuck me, though. We have Axl, Slash, and Duff together again. I know one project doesn't and shouldn't have anything to do with the other. I know an all new GNR album would probably not deliver. I don't care, I want them to try. This is the third album with Myles. He's done a good job, but he is indeed a better fit in Alter Bridge. He sounds good to great on some Slash songs, and detracts from others. I say that as a fan of the guy. I'm not saying I want this band to break up or for Slash to stop doing his own thing, its just this is the third album cycle. I thought they did sort of push themselves a bit with WoF and this seems to be a regression. Maybe Axl and Slash could push each other (Yeah right), or maybe these guys are older and past their peak and we should just accept what we get and maybe we will get lucky here and there. TLDR- I like it, but its disappointing and the weakest SMKC album for me right now. Edited September 19, 2018 by ZoSoRose 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallex78 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 hours ago, moreblack said: True, but if AB is what they're all about, this is definitely not that. I do wish Myles had someone like Todd to harmonize with in AB. No fuckin way! Mark Tremonti sings great lower key harmonies with Myles. Todd with Myles sounds like Mickey Mouse harmonising with Minnie Mouse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, metallex78 said: No fuckin way! Mark Tremonti sings great lower key harmonies with Myles. Todd with Myles sounds like Mickey Mouse harmonising with Minnie Mouse... I really like Todd/Myles and Mark/Myles. Both harmonies rock for different music 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 The One You Loved Is Gone really hit me hard. The lyrics pretty much describe my love life of the past 6 months 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Just now, Gibson_Guy87 said: The One You Loved Is Gone really hit me hard. The lyrics pretty much describe my love life of the past 6 months I feel like that one would have meant a lot more to me if it was on WoF Also keep your chin up! Edited September 19, 2018 by ZoSoRose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Slow Grind's chorus is kinda like Landslide's from the second Snakepit album 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gem Archer Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 i really like it despite the poor singles choice, the best was yet to come, it's clear that they have a formula or their own style if you prefer, but they're good at it...it's a really strong album that i was into on the first listen... slow grind has a really cool snakepit vibe great pretender reminds me of messages from VR, nice solo... lost inside the girl another great with a slash really inspired from the riffs to the solos.. overall it's a very strong album, with less fillers than WOF.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattleyCrue Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 This record is fantastic! I’m in love! The Great Pretender...WOW!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) On first listen: The Call of the Wild - Decent track, pretty much what I expect a SMKC album-opener to be. Not much replay value though. Serve You Right - I feel like I've heard a faster version of this song before, but I can't place it. Wtf is it? Slash sounds great on this one but the melodies are boring. My Antidote - Easily the best single, and one of the best songs on the album too. Kind of a "standard" SMKC-song overall but the riff is awesome and Slash's solo on this one stands out. Mind Your Manners - Generic SMKC rocker. meh. Lost Inside the Girl - This song makes me want a GNR album. Axl could've really done something with it, and Duff and Richard would've been interesting. I've never been a Myles fan, and this is another song he brings down. It reminds me of GNR the same way Fall To Pieces does - "what if?" Read Between the Lines - One of the better songs on the album, I don't care for the chorus at all but I like the intro/verses/solo. The chorus tho. Slow Grind - My least favourite song on the album. Same Old Song Story-line indeed. The One You Loved Is Gone - Definitely one of the best on the album, but the 'la la la' bit almost ruins it for me. It adds nothing but cheese, and disrupts a great solo. It's a great song up till then... at least it's near the end. I imagine this is what other people feel like when listening to Chinese Democracy - "why did they add that!?" Driving Rain - One of the weakest. Boring melodies, again. I like the guitar parts though. Sugar Cane - Better than Mind Your Manners and Driving Rain but it's in the same league. Slash and the band sound great, Myles is actually alright, but the lyrics kill this one for me. The Great Pretender - Another song that sounds familiar. It's alright, the reviews I read before listening made it seem like this song was gonna be a lot better than it is. The solo's are cool but other than that the song is kinda boring honestly. Boulevard of Broken Hearts - Not bad and not great. It's the kind of song I expect on a SMKC album. Edited September 20, 2018 by Gordon Comstock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On third listen, I think Weiland could have done some cool stuff on some tracks like Read Between the Lines and The Great Pretender 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 So upon a few more listens of 'The One You Loved...' the main verse melody is the same as the "la la la" part in Battleground from WOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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