Pedrolg Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I think the letter states pretty clearly that people are threatening families on behalf of GNR. Did you guys tweet this to Axl directly? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikosgnr Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Gunner927 said: @Dexter is probably busy watching Westworld and doesn't know a fuckin' thing about what's going on. "Is this now?" Edited July 31, 2018 by nikosgnr 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, default_ said: Russ, I think some people arent really understanding what this is about and maybe TB/UMG/GNR wont either. Would it be a bad idea to edit the letter and say with all words some people are threatening families on behalf of TB/GNR? Good idea. I'll go back to add a little bit but it's really up to @axlrosefan4life and @Gambit83 to post all the details if they choose. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlrosefan4life Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 When silkworms and oh my god leaked I was texted from Alfred “ if I care about my kids then I better pick up the phone “ . This was said after a couple of personal threats were made towards me. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, axlrosefan4life said: When silkworms and oh my god leaked I was texted from Alfred “ if I care about my kids then I better pick up the phone “ . This was said after a couple of personal threats were made towards me. Unbelieveable. I remember you saying that on the podcast now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post metalms Posted July 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, pastortine said: My sons birthday is July 24. On July 27, 2017 we traveled to St. Louis for his 14th birthday to attend his very first concert featuring his favorite band, Guns N Roses. GNR has been my favorite band since 1987. I'm not into piracy, and have never spent a dime on pirated material, and don't intend to, but the youtube videos and channels that have been attacked were the only window my son had into the colorful history of this band and something we were able to share together and bond around. Whoever is behind the current crapfest isn't helping GNR. They are just taking the fun out of being a fan. It sucks. Really sucks. wwww This Thank you Russ. I am hoping the years of abuse that I was able to uncover in this fan base for myself, coupled with my recent experiences I and my friends and fellow fans have suffered this can finally END here and now. Because personally I am sick of wasting time on this on THESE people. It is preventing me/us from being able to celebrate this band we love so dearly having to suffer harassment tactics, and threats. It has made GNR something that has started to have a painful feel to it. Being A fan for 31 years there was a time this was keeping the GNR legacy alive. Had my channel for 10 years. All I ever really ever wanted. Never profited, UMG did though when they flagged some of my videos for YEARS and allowed them to remain for public viewership. Until recently when I and others became a soft target, while others who brought attention to what was happening to a bigger audience had families and loved ones threatened. If I ever once thought I was hurting the band I loved or the people and fans I care about, I would have gladly removed them myself.... but its come to this. Thank you to everyone who has been supportive, who I don't mention here.,,, you know who you are,, and I apologize to @axlrosefan4life and @Gambit83 that this has gone this far .....because no one should have to have to go through this simply because they are a fan of a band. Edited July 31, 2018 by metalms 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony adler Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 There is no way this is sanctioned by GNR, those bootlegs and concerts on YouTube have kept the fan base going when the future was uncertain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, axlrosefan4life said: When silkworms and oh my god leaked I was texted from Alfred “ if I care about my kids then I better pick up the phone “ . This was said after a couple of personal threats were made towards me. Just terrifying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, axlrosefan4life said: When silkworms and oh my god leaked I was texted from Alfred “ if I care about my kids then I better pick up the phone “ . This was said after a couple of personal threats were made towards me. That's horrible and im sorry. Completely unbecoming and unnecessary in this community no matter what your stance is on GNR material being available on the internet or elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony adler Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Through every disappointment I always had those beautiful shows that I listened to for over 20 years, works of art if u ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matheus.binotti Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, axlrosefan4life said: Quando os bichos-da-seda e oh meu deus vazaram, eu recebi uma mensagem de Alfred "Se eu me importo com meus filhos, então é melhor eu pegar o telefone". Isso foi dito depois que algumas ameaças pessoais foram feitas em minha direção. It's horrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, edsonandhudson said: Well, I guess the first part was ok so I'll post it again: For those who don't have time to listen to podcasts, you should give more details about the threats. This Define threats? Name calling or dudes parked outside with baseball bats. In either case it's not for TB to go hunting down every person that impersonates them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Well, just 2 cents from someone who is far removed from what is happening. I know there is a past of clashing and bad blood between this community, some fans and TB/GNR. With that said, it's unfathomable to me that they could be aware of this sort of behaviour, much less condone it. Even removing any sort of "caring for the fans" aspect, this would be absolutely stupid and disastrous from a marketing and financial standpoint after all the work the band did to reposition itself with the public, with massive success, going massively mainstream again. With all shit that is said about him, Axl strikes me as the type of guy that would personally look into this and address it agressively if it reaches him and it ends up having anything to do with somebody actually inside his camp. Just a suggestion, @RussTCB, @downzy and specially the victims. I would recommend investing in getting this message to GNR through official and guaranteed channels. Make sure they get it, and once they do, I'd give them a reasonable timeframe to address it. If nothing happened after that, I'd make it all public, if I were you. Major news outlets public. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, axlrosefan4life said: When silkworms and oh my god leaked I was texted from Alfred “ if I care about my kids then I better pick up the phone “ . This was said after a couple of personal threats were made towards me. Then surely this is a matter for the authorities, and not universal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: Then surely this is a matter for the authorities, and not universal. I would say authorities for the threats, and at the very least getting some sort of two-way communication between us and TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Wagszilla said: If you guys want to go one step further, email this thread to news organizations. Help pick up some steam. I'm sure some fans could help with connections in that department. If it hasn't been thought of already. Any way, it's a shame the situation is at where it's at for whatever reason. I could easily see a scenario where the fans are fat and happy and still genuinely interested in going to shows, buying new and old albums, and so forth. I'm there for a CD box set, The Joint 2001 show, and CD era and pre-CD era unreleased songs in a heartbeat. This includes Axl's solo stuff or him fucking around on a piano for an hour. Let's hope the tide is about to change. I'd try to know for sure if it actually has anything to do with GNR before involving any press. It takes little for a public opinion conviction without trial is cases such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Pedrolg said: I'd try to know for sure if it actually has anything to do with GNR before involving any press. It takes little for a public opinion conviction without trial is cases such as this. That's exactly why I wanted to start here. I'm not interested in causing trouble from GN'R. I'd just like them to know that people are making threats in their name, whether or not they actually have association with these people or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadApples99 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Is it a possibility to make @Fernando aware of this by sending him a PM on his Instagram. He's more active on that than on Twitter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, BadApples99 said: Is it a possibility to make @Fernando aware of this by sending him a PM on his Instagram. He's more active on that than on Twitter. I'm all for anything that gets their attention 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit83 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: This Define threats? Name calling or dudes parked outside with baseball bats. In either case it's not for TB to go hunting down every person that impersonates them They made a fake profile of me, giving out my mom’s address/# asking people to come over for sex. Would actually be funny if I was in high school or real murders didn’t actually start that way. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, RussTCB said: That's exactly why I wanted to start here. I'm not interested in causing trouble from GN'R. I'd just like them to know that people are making threats in their name, whether or not they actually have association with these people or not. I think you are absolutely right in your approach. I'd even suggest that your attempt to reach them goes beyond this post and this board (maybe downzy could get/provide more direct contact). If that fails, then I'd cause trouble, but the decision in that case falls to you and the other people involved. If you guys do end up wanting to go public, I'm a reporter for a massive news site in Brazil (the biggest, actually). IF and WHEN you want it, I'd be glad to help you get your story some exposure around here. Only if you want it, will not do anything unless you ask. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, Gambit83 said: They made a fake profile of me, giving out my mom’s address/# asking people to come over for sex. Would actually be funny if I was in high school or real murders didn’t actually start that way. Jesus, that is disgusting I am sorry you have had to deal with that lately. I have seen a ton of those little dumb photos they make where they use the photo of the logo of your podcast and call it lies, and the level of obsession they have with you and mygnr and non-threating non-monetary related bootlegs is just so so strange. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, Pedrolg said: I think you are absolutely right in your approach. I'd even suggest that your attempt to reach them goes beyond this post and this board (maybe downzy could get/provide more direct contact). If that fails, then I'd cause trouble, but the decision in that case falls to you and the other people involved. If you guys do end up wanting to go public, I'm a reporter for a massive news site in Brazil (the biggest, actually). IF and WHEN you want it, I'd be glad to help you get your story some exposure around here. Only if you want it, will not do anything unless you ask. Thank you I'd love for this to be handled "in house" so to speak. Hopefully we hear something sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archtop Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Wow, it took me some time to work out what the initial tweet was all about and I went back to listen to the two podcasts. I can’t believe this is taking place. I still confused by the connection to Perla and the Alfred guy, but the GnR camp really need to comment on this. So nobody minds if I do some tweeting and tagging? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GNR87 Posted July 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 Guys I’m sorry but Guns N’ Roses, as much as we like this band, is not worth putting your families at risk. Those of you threatened by those crazy bastards it’s time to go to the police. Forget for a while about podcasts, bootlegs, youtube channels or leaks and focus on your families. I understand what you’re doing and why please don’t get me wrong but fuck gnr. My family and children come first. IMHO, Team Brazil already knows about this and a) don’t care or b) are willing participants. Don’t forget they have never been fan friendly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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