zombux Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, sidman69 said: I really wish some news outlets would pick this stuff up. I'm not sure if this is interesting for anyone besides Altnation or Blabbermouth. regular tabloids write stories about various psychopaths on a daily basis, this is not hilarious, explosive or serious enough, it's just disgusting for us here, while nobody really cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, RussTCB said: Me too. When the Rolling Stone writer reached out to me asking me to remove the full text of his Slash interview, I obliged. Then I directed him to my Open Letter thread and asked him to look into that situation. Apparently it wasn't important enough for him to do so which is a bummer. You would think disturbed individiuals threatening the families of a fan base and doing so in the name of the management company of the band would be something to look into, but apparently not. well, maybe they got some "advance instructions" from somebody. the truth is, something like this might seriously damage the current image of NITL thing, threatening to limit the cash influx - maybe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, zombux said: well, maybe they got some "advance instructions" from somebody. the truth is, something like this might seriously damage the current image of NITL thing, threatening to limit the cash influx - maybe. That first thought actually crossed my mind. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwick1 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 What I don't understand about those behind the takedowns is that they believe they're fans of GnR and I suppose are delusional in the belief that they're helping GnR. In reality, GnR has lived and thrived since the creation of the internet. If not for the footage on YouTube I doubt there would be much of the current or future for GnR. Through unofficial GnR social media accounts GnR has remained much as they were in '88-92. No good for GnR is coming from their actions. I wish they would see that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted August 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Kwick1 said: What I don't understand about those behind the takedowns is that they believe they're fans of GnR and I suppose are delusional in the belief that they're helping GnR. In reality, GnR has lived and thrived since the creation of the internet. If not for the footage on YouTube I doubt there would be much of the current or future for GnR. Through unofficial GnR social media accounts GnR has remained much as they were in '88-92. No good for GnR is coming from their actions. I wish they would see that. I think at least one of them thinks they're "helping GN'R" by trying to get any negative opinion erased. That half of the Delusional Duo has tried to do so through various outlets. Up to and including having their own forum that started out promising then turned to nothing because no one was interested in being censored if they didn't share the exact same opinions on everything to do with GN'R. So that "truthful outlet" dwindled down to a couple of legit users who, for whatever reason, believe the person running it is either Axl or has a connection to Axl. Outside of those few, that forum is populated by alt accounts for the Admin all of which are happy to confirm that they're definitely not the same person but the original person in question does have a connection to or might be Axl. The other half doesn't really care about what's good for GN'R from anything I've ever seen. They're only in this whole deal for attention, which is so sad. They got a ton of attention back in the day for pretending to be Izzy and apparently it was enough attention to spend years trying to replicate it. All they've been known for since that point is just openly trolling GN'R fans, forums and TB themselves. It seems to be someone who doesn't know the difference between good attention and bad attention, or doesn't care at the very least. I dedicate a LOT of time to the GN'R online fanbase but it's literally my spare time that I chose to spend that way because I've made so many friends through this community. So it's the definition of "labor of love" for me. I don't spend any amount of time calculating moves in an attempt to get attention from the GN'R online commuity and can't think of anything sadder than having my life amount to that lol. For years, it's been funny to watch because it never became dangerous. As I mentioned before, they were constrained to their own little asylum where no one really cared what they were up to. Occasionally, they'd start yet another alt account here or gnfnr, cause some minor waves, get banned, everyone would laugh and we'd all move on. However, we're on a whole different level now. These people are threatening families, attempting to remove free speech and doing all of it while claiming they're working with and for Guns N' Roses management, Team Brazil. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fashionista Posted August 16, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2018 When a bands only official live performance from their glory days is fuckin Tokyo 92, YouTube is essential. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwick1 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 @RussTCB, I love this forum not really because my love for GnR. If I came here solely for GnR, I probably would have stopped within the first week. I continue to come here because of the people and friends I've made. I know you and @downzyand all the admins have a very full life outside of this forum and I appreciate everything you do to keep this alive and well. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 My account is still active on Truth(not sure how lol) and man is that a sad place. Cineater you deserve a medal! Patience of a saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted August 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Kwick1 said: @RussTCB, I love this forum not really because my love for GnR. If I came here solely for GnR, I probably would have stopped within the first week. I continue to come here because of the people and friends I've made. I know you and @downzyand all the admins have a very full life outside of this forum and I appreciate everything you do to keep this alive and well. Yep, our pleasure! I mentioned this on @sidman69 and @Gambit83's podcasts recently but the only reason I stick around is the community. I've met SO many awesome people from literally all over the globe because of this forum. That, for me at least, outweighs all of this BS from a couple of disturbed individuals 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gambit83 Posted August 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: Yep, our pleasure! I mentioned this on @sidman69 and @Gambit83's podcast recently but the only reason I stick around is the community. I've met SO many awesome people from literally all over the globe because of this forum. That, for me at least, outweighs all of this BS from a couple of disturbed individuals Well I'm making a freaking YouTube channel with the help of Raz Cue. I don't copyright shit. And if all the pages/forums get shut down, you'll always have a voice on my podcast. And if my podcast gets shut down, well... 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageKage Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Isnt anyone else concerned that these individuals, or at least one of them, might physically harm fans at some point? they are obviously mentally deranged and fucked up in their heads. and they're are after fans who dont share their stupid opinion or dare to critizise something. who can say they won't go as far as to seek some people out and hurt them? they're psychopaths. hello mark chapman? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I wouldn’t be the Guns fan I am if it weren’t for the countless YouTube videos I’ve watched over the years watching endless pro shots, listening to bootlegs and even unreleased songs. It sickens me that this pleasure is being taken away from not only our community but new fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Boy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I just noticed Saskatoon 93 is still out there to watch on various other streaming sites, so it's not as if it has disappeared completely.. must be the same for a lot of other stuff. This seems to be solely a youtube issue.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nice Boy said: I just noticed Saskatoon 93 is still out there to watch on various other streaming sites, so it's not as if it has disappeared completely.. must be the same for a lot of other stuff. This seems to be solely a youtube issue.. streaming sites are easy to reach just with one click, but also extremely easy to takedown, that's why the biggest shitstorm is happening there. on the other hand, sharing bootlegs is of course still working normally, I'd rather say much more massively than before ("Streisand effect"), just using different channels so in the end, from bootleggers point of view, this really is just a storm in a glass of water, caused by people who think they can "shut down the internet". ROFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 terabyte of bootlegs should keep him busy for a while 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, donny said: 1 terabyte of bootlegs should keep him busy for a while my educated guess says something around 14-15TB and counting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 But if something horrible happen RS will be the first on publish it...."journalism" ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
; D Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) Did anyone manage to get a rip off YouTube of the Ritz 91 incomplete proshot? also thanks to all the people on the forum and in various other places that help the GNR community get through these tough times Edited August 16, 2018 by ; D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ; D said: Did manage to get a rip off YouTube of the Ritz 91 incomplete proshot? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millionflies Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 9.8.2018 at 3:08 AM, donny said: i am struggling to comprehend the amount of money the band, the bands management and the bands record label have lost over this. these videos (bootlegs or not) earned money for them. (…) that (!) + this (about Slither videos) 11 hours ago, alfierose said: Hadn't looked in that thread for a while. Those videos I linked to were great and a part of GNR history. So disappointing they are gone and I don't believe it's good for the band because it makes it harder for people to discover all things they have done. + (in general) 7 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: I wouldn’t be the Guns fan I am if it weren’t for the countless YouTube videos I’ve watched over the years watching endless pro shots, listening to bootlegs and even unreleased songs. It sickens me that this pleasure is being taken away from not only our community but new fans. … makes me look for an emoticon "bumps head against wall", but I only found & This is frightening. Though I'm sure no one will be able to delete all the stuff, the attempt is just crazy and sad. The last days I have searched for videos on YT I used to watch only to make sure that they're still there (not all of them). A couple of days ago I had a blank video (deleted) in the top of my list of liked videos, therefore I stopped liking videos. Instead I'm going to buy a new hard drive. Really tough times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, millionflies said: that (!) + this (about Slither videos) + (in general) … makes me look for an emoticon "bumps head against wall", but I only found & This is frightening. Though I'm sure no one will be able to delete all the stuff, the attempt is just crazy and sad. The last days I have searched for videos on YT I used to watch only to make sure that they're still there (not all of them). A couple of days ago I had a blank video (deleted) in the top of my list of liked videos, therefore I stopped liking videos. Instead I'm going to buy a new hard drive. Really tough times. Download everything you like off YouTube. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 13 hours ago, zombux said: (from Brando's FB). it seems Team Brazil's proxies are shutting down pages that allow discussion about them. now we can easily see why MyGNR staff prefers not to have open discussion like that, because I can easily imagine they are being threatened in similar way to the FB pages - only FB probably doesn't bother checking the requests and just shuts down the page. of course, the deleted pages are instantly re-created again Whoever they are, they are not proxies of TB. What discussion do you think is being limited? I can tell you we have never been threatened by anyone associated by the band or management. Let me repeat, no threats. Ever. We have received threats, but they are usually by the same dipshits who threaten and take down other online fan spaces. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 10 hours ago, RageKage said: Isnt anyone else concerned that these individuals, or at least one of them, might physically harm fans at some point? they are obviously mentally deranged and fucked up in their heads. and they're are after fans who dont share their stupid opinion or dare to critizise something. who can say they won't go as far as to seek some people out and hurt them? they're psychopaths. hello mark chapman? This hasn’t gone beyond the notice of official GNR channels and representatives. To what is being done about it I can’t say (because I don’t know), but I do know that it is a serious concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, downzy said: Whoever they are, they are not proxies of TB. What discussion do you think is being limited? I can tell you we have never been threatened by anyone associated by the band or management. Let me repeat, no threats. Ever. We have received threats, but they are usually by the same dipshits who threaten and take down other online fan spaces. TB has not made a statement to us so we dont know if they are or arent involved All Fernando had to do was a one sentence post on here saying they are not involved. He couldnt be bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: TB has not made a statement to us so we dont know if they are or arent involved All Fernando had to do was a one sentence post on here saying they are not involved. He couldnt be bothered I don't think he can because it would imply it's okay. Downzy has told you what you need to know. Get off Fernando's back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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