zombux Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: It coincided with the World Cup in Brazil, 2014. that must be the last gasp of pre-NITL era then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I love how we all got fed up of GNR’s bullshit. I love this place 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said: I love how we all got fed up of GNR’s bullshit. I love this place We're masochists, but it can only go so far! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said: I love how we all got fed up of GNR’s bullshit. I love this place to be fair, I still honestly believe that the band members have little to nothing to do with all this idiotic shit, and they probably don't give a fuck about it, as soon as they're getting their salaries from the guys who "manage the business". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 the walkergate scandal could have a big impact on this money making merch thing depending on if they respond and what they say. can you imagine them saying "your favourite YT channels where closed down and forum members family members have been threatened with OUR full backing" now would you like to buy a picture of the band from us for £260. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 All things considered, it's very gracious of GNR to look into the recent fan concerns with bootlegs, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwick1 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I really don't think the band members have anything to do with this. they shouldn't have to concern themselves with such matters as promotional material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, cineater said: All things considered, it's very gracious of GNR to look into the recent fan concerns with bootlegs, don't you think? Gracious? Not really the word I'd use to describe it. I think TB's treatment of fans in the past has created the atmosphere that has led to this unfortunate incident. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJean Baby Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think this is Universal' s doing, why would TB or GNR promote a pic of Ross? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Live Like a Suicide Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, cineater said: All things considered, it's very gracious of GNR to look into the recent fan concerns with bootlegs, don't you think? People have to stop rewarding Team Brazil for simply lifting a finger. Things like this or an impromptu forum appearance by the manager only seem like much because they rarely do anything at all. If Team Brazil had any idea of what they were doing, this would never have happened in the first place. If they maintained an adequate PR department which oversaw community management and the band's online presence, the community wouldn't be as desperate as they are, and the management would have had an understanding of this developing situation without having to rely on a third-party forum administrator for the run-down. They have made upwards of $500 million in the past three years - they can afford a dedicated PR person who is not Fernando. The way GN'R is operated is frankly ridiculous for a AAA brand. Edited August 2, 2018 by Live Like a Suicide 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said: People have to stop rewarding Team Brazil for simply lifting a finger. Things like this or an impromptu forum appearance by the manager only seem like much because they rarely do anything at all. If Team Brazil had any idea of what they were doing, this would never have happened in the first place. If they maintained an adequate PR department which oversaw community management and the band's online presence, the community wouldn't be as desperate as they are, and the management would have had an understanding of this developing situation without having to rely on a third-party forum administrator for the run-down. They have made upwards of $500 million in the past three years - they can afford a dedicated PR person who is not Fernando. The way GN'R is operated is frankly ridiculous for a AAA brand. Absolutely agreed. They do not know how to communicate with the majority of us with respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mini Mite Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Also, disturbingly, there is an implication that ''spending power'' determines ''level of fandom'' in that sentence. This is now how they see fans now: consumer groups to be exploited. More evidence that Guns N' Roses are more a brand than a band. The shocking truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chorrada Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 And people said that New GnR were a joke. Why do I even still come here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bob Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Also, disturbingly, there is an implication that ''spending power'' determines ''level of fandom'' in that sentence. This is now how they see fans now: consumer groups to be exploited. More evidence that Guns N' Roses are more a brand than a band. This is something that was big news last year with Taylor Swift. Basically getting her fans to by repeat copies of her album and other merchandise so that they had a better chance of securing tickets for her upcoming shows. This whole thing is disgusting, and if GNR had any long term business sense they would run a mile away from this because it's not the golden ticket that they think it is. EVENTUALLY even the most diehard fan bites, and it's shit like this that does it. I'm obviously not a fan of GNR, because I've not bought the boxset or even been offered the chance to buy this picture disgusting, greedy and and short-sighted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Kwick1 said: I really don't think the band members have anything to do with this. they shouldn't have to concern themselves with such matters as promotional material. Who do you think runs this band? if it involves dollars and cents, they know what's going on. NOW there is a possibility that Universal have acted alone, and through some loophole in the gnr contract they are able to do things like this without the bands expressed consent... but why would Universal piss off GNR right now? surely that are crossing their fingers for possible live releases, best of compilations, ....new singles / albums (I know ), IF GNR had no hand in it I can't imagine they'd be that pleased with the negative attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) So we're not one of GNRs biggest fans because we haven't bought a print of some shitty photographer they found hanging around London in the 80s. Well I guess my years of collecting hundred or so bootlegs & 27 attending shows count for nothing No I don't want your shitty print, Ross. Im happy with my OWN band photo with Slash and Duff and my multiple photos with Axl. Edited August 2, 2018 by Axl_morris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) ...you been ripping off the kids of their hard earned money.. Edited August 2, 2018 by Axl_morris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Of course they (Axl, Slash, Duff) know about things like this. Don't be stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 The fans (not only GnR fans, but in general) have always been seen as consumers, and it couldn't have been otherwise since it's a product. The difference is that now is done more shamelessly. The music industry openly operates like any other corporation. In this case, UMG probably made a business and marketing plan for all this, presented it to the management/band and they just approved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Who do you think runs this band? if it involves dollars and cents, they know what's going on. NOW there is a possibility that Universal have acted alone, and through some loophole in the gnr contract they are able to do things like this without the bands expressed consent... but why would Universal piss off GNR right now? surely that are crossing their fingers for possible live releases, best of compilations, ....new singles / albums (I know ), IF GNR had no hand in it I can't imagine they'd be that pleased with the negative attention. Nobody knows the deal or contracts involved. Some of which may go back to the late 80’s in how this stuff can be used. To put blame on TB without knowing the whole story is a bit short sighted and an easy scapegoat some like to jump upon Everyone as fans can decide to ignore and just not buy this stuff. That’s how you send messages to the powers at be. The fact is that certain fans are willing to spend on high priced items. You’ll be damn sure that behavior will be fully exasperated to help drive revenue from that group. Now the question GNR has to ask is does that group of people align with the “Super fans” at the top of the pyramid here? I would think long term that is an issue that they will need to look into and concern themselves with. This part of the fan base helps long term. The dark years keeping the band alive being the foremost example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester 524 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 this picture is the same poster that came with the box set they just released! over 200 dollars???? seriously? cant we even get a never seen pic? honestly a pic of the current line up would be nice. did they ever release a proper band pic with Melissa and crew? still milking Adler and Izzy image I see. whatever. this is getting ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Blackstar said: The fans (not only GnR fans, but in general) have always been seen as consumers, and it couldn't have been otherwise since it's a product. The difference is that now is done more shamelessly. The music industry openly operates like any other corporation. In this case, UMG probably made a business and marketing plan for all this, presented it to the management/band and they just approved. One guy, who annoyed rock n roll star Axl have something to say about fans & customers Well, Axl well said back in the beginings that he wouldn t want to become Iron Miden kind of band - guess what - he didn't! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I find it extremely humorous that the picture was your breaking point. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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