DTJ80 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) We all know there are a number of versions of this track about - including Appetite era instrumental and one which sounds UYI-like with vocals (maybe the version Gilby worked on?). Problem is with that version is it’s quite low quality with hiss etc. It was clearly quite far on in terms of production with background vocals etc - was a ‘proper’ version ever doing the rounds which was higher quality sound wise? Edited August 28, 2018 by DTJ80 Extra comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The one that was used for the GnR pinball machine was the finished version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, MaskingApathy said: The one that was used for the GnR pinball machine was the finished version. I know there was a digitised version that was used on the Pinball Machine but that sounds different to the track I’m talking about? In anycase, do you know if there was a good quality version ever released or just the lower quality one (sounds like it’s 128kbs with hissing)? Edited August 28, 2018 by DTJ80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 4 hours ago, MaskingApathy said: The one that was used for the GnR pinball machine was the finished version. The pinball version was actually recorded in 93 or early 94. You can tell by Axl's voice. Also, I asked Gilby once on Twitter and he said it was the last track he worked on as a member of GN'R. He said they intended to release it fully but "never got it right." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Fashionista said: The pinball version was actually recorded in 93 or early 94. You can tell by Axl's voice. Also, I asked Gilby once on Twitter and he said it was the last track he worked on as a member of GN'R. He said they intended to release it fully but "never got it right." Yep - the version you are referring to is the same one I’m talking about. Clearly ‘UYI’ type vocals. It’s funny as the version itself is really good and sounds complete? It’s just the audio quality of the version on YouTube is grainy/low quality. I take it a higher quality version has never found its way online (no hiss/crackling etc)? Edited August 28, 2018 by DTJ80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pentatonicamenor Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Any link to listen to this song please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, pentatonicamenor said: Any link to listen to this song please? To avoid issues - it’s on YouTube!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman5150 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 hours ago, DTJ80 said: Yep - the version you are referring to is the same one I’m talking about. Clearly ‘UYI’ type vocals. It’s funny as the version itself is really good and sounds complete? It’s just the audio quality of the version on YouTube is grainy/low quality. I take it a higher quality version has never found its way online (no hiss/crackling etc)? It will be the lead off single on the UYI box set that will inevitably get released in the next few years. This song is to UYI as shadow of your love to AFD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 43 minutes ago, mikeman5150 said: It will be the lead off single on the UYI box set that will inevitably get released in the next few years. This song is to UYI as shadow of your love to AFD To be fair I agree and said as much on the other thread. I just wondered if a cleaner version was out there rather than the hissy/crackly one on YouTube (ie where was that leaked from and did it originally sound cleaner)? Not that the current one is unlistenable! Can’t wait for the inevitable UYI boxset! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 8 hours ago, MaskingApathy said: The one that was used for the GnR pinball machine was the finished version. Hmm, I doubt you would call this "Finished". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pentatonicamenor Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, 31illusions said: Hmm, I doubt you would call this "Finished". Very poor midi sound in some parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHook Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 55 minutes ago, 31illusions said: Hmm, I doubt you would call this "Finished". WTF, that's Horrible! Maybe its a good thing GNR never recorded a follow-up to the UYI's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, DTJ80 said: We all know there are a number of versions of this track about - including Appetite era instrumental and one which sounds UYI-like with vocals (maybe the version Gilby worked on?). Problem is with that version is it’s quite low quality with hiss etc. It was clearly quite far on in terms of production with background vocals etc - was a ‘proper’ version ever doing the rounds which was higher quality sound wise? i dont think gilby has anything to do with the version in circulation i dont think there is not even ONE SINGLE GNR STUDIO RECORDING FEATURING GILBY CLARKE in circulation. all the studio outtakes in circulation are from GNR ERA fantastic song/fantastic version by the way, better than 90% of everything on the illusion albums oh and if you just search a bit harder you will find much better quality than youtube from that same version Edited August 29, 2018 by ludurigan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, ludurigan said: i dont think gilby has anything to do with the version in circulation i dont think there is not even ONE SINGLE GNR STUDIO RECORDING FEATURING GILBY CLARKE in circulation. all the studio outtakes in circulation are from GNR ERA fantastic song/fantastic version by the way, better than 90% of everything on the illusion albums oh and if you just search a bit harder you will find much better quality than youtube from that same version Personnel Guns N' Roses W. Axl Rose – lead vocals, keyboards on "Since I Don't Have You", kazoo on "Human Being" Slash – lead guitar, co-lead vocals on "Buick Mackane (Big Dumb Sex)", talkbox on "Hair of the Dog", backing vocals on "Attitude" Duff McKagan – bass, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, lead vocals on "You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory", "New Rose" and "Attitude", co-lead vocals on "Raw Power", drums on "You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory", production Matt Sorum – drums, percussion on "Hair of the Dog", backing vocals on "Human Being" and "Attitude" Dizzy Reed – keyboards, piano on "Since I Don't Have You", percussion on "Look at Your Game Girl", backing vocals on "You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory" Gilby Clarke – rhythm guitar, backing vocals Edited August 29, 2018 by Fashionista 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, RedHook said: WTF, that's Horrible! Maybe its a good thing GNR never recorded a follow-up to the UYI's That version is butchered/digitised for the pinball machine and doesn’t represent the actual song that well. The proper version also on YouTube is the real deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, ludurigan said: i dont think gilby has anything to do with the version in circulation i dont think there is not even ONE SINGLE GNR STUDIO RECORDING FEATURING GILBY CLARKE in circulation. all the studio outtakes in circulation are from GNR ERA fantastic song/fantastic version by the way, better than 90% of everything on the illusion albums oh and if you just search a bit harder you will find much better quality than youtube from that same version Interesting - I will have to get looking. The one I have access to is a bit better that the YouTube one (just used that as an example) but if there is one which is much cleaner to tide us over until the eventual official release then that’s great. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, Fashionista said: Personnel Guns N' Roses W. Axl Rose – lead vocals, keyboards on "Since I Don't Have You", kazoo on "Human Being" Slash – lead guitar, co-lead vocals on "Buick Mackane (Big Dumb Sex)", talkbox on "Hair of the Dog", backing vocals on "Attitude" Duff McKagan – bass, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, lead vocals on "You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory", "New Rose" and "Attitude", co-lead vocals on "Raw Power", drums on "You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory", production Matt Sorum – drums, percussion on "Hair of the Dog", backing vocals on "Human Being" and "Attitude" Dizzy Reed – keyboards, piano on "Since I Don't Have You", percussion on "Look at Your Game Girl", backing vocals on "You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory" Gilby Clarke – rhythm guitar, backing vocals i meant outtakes, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert39 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 thats a real pinball tune, not a guns song thats worked on. with a few samples they "made" a song, you can clearly here that !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 14 hours ago, 31illusions said: Hmm, I doubt you would call this "Finished". It's just because it's been digitised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 22 hours ago, Fashionista said: The pinball version was actually recorded in 93 or early 94. You can tell by Axl's voice. Also, I asked Gilby once on Twitter and he said it was the last track he worked on as a member of GN'R. He said they intended to release it fully but "never got it right." That’s wild. It’s too bad the song didn’t make it to the Greatest Hits album like SFTD did. I wonder if it was considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUCKETHEAD lAND Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I don't think there's a finished version, so far (if im correct) we have the pinball version, an instrumetal called 'Meet & Beer Jam', a demo version and the newly released instrumental version on the remaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pentatonicamenor Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, bUCKETHEAD lAND said: I don't think there's a finished version, so far (if im correct) we have the pinball version, an instrumetal called 'Meet & Beer Jam', a demo version and the newly released instrumental version on the remaster Newly released instrumental version pm the remaster? Where!? What are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, pentatonicamenor said: Newly released instrumental version pm the remaster? Where!? What are you talking about? I think this is in reference to the Ain’t Goin Down No More on the Appetite Remaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pentatonicamenor Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: I think this is in reference to the Ain’t Goin Down No More on the Appetite Remaster. Right, seems like I'd been in coma for a while 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 13 hours ago, bUCKETHEAD lAND said: I don't think there's a finished version, so far (if im correct) we have the pinball version, an instrumetal called 'Meet & Beer Jam', a demo version and the newly released instrumental version on the remaster There's three known/circulating versions : - The instrumental Sound City demo from June 5/6 1986 (bootlegged and eventually released on the boxset) - A live recording from August 23rd 1986 at the Whisky A Go Go (recorded by Marc Canter, bootlegged) - The UYI sessions rough mix -> longer and with vocals (bootlegged) The pinball version is just a midi/digitised version, you can't possibly consider that a 'song'. There's bound to be more recordings (live, rehearsal, studio ?) but they are not circulating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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