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Anyone listen to Slash's Universal Horror Album? Its surprisngly cool. He does some not very "slash" guitar parts there, maybe because he has to restrain himself since he is just a cog in the machine, as opposed to being the main driving mattwr in the music

 

"The Danse of the Dead" is probably the best "song" as a whole

 

"We Belong Dead" he does some very unusual (for him) arpeggio after the whole dubstep thing, starting at 2:00. At first I thought he sweep picking lol but hes just picking everything

 

"Sweet Licks" he does some cool ambient guitar lead echo in the intro and throughout

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Just now, Mendez said:

Anyone listen to Slash's Universal Horror Album? Its surprisngly cool. He does some not very "slash" guitar parts there, maybe because he has to restrain himself since he is just a cog in the machine, as opposed to being the main driving mattwr in the music

 

The Danse of the Dead is cool

 

It reminded me of some of Buckethead's 'Pike' albums. It's definitely a cool project and I hope he does more stuff like that in the future.

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6 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

It reminded me of some of Buckethead's 'Pike' albums. It's definitely a cool project and I hope he does more stuff like that in the future.

Right? I was mildly inpressed by him for doing something weird out of his bluesy rock bubble that actually was pretty decent. 

 

Guess he wouldnt be so out of his element playing on Axls weirder CD songs

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6 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Here’s a spicy one

I didn’t really care about most of the instrumentals leaked last summer. I listened to some of them only out of curiosity and then never again. Unfinished and without vocals I had very little interest and couldn’t even tell you one from the other. This is coming from a major Chinese fan.

Same here on all counts. I'm a really big CD fan, but I'm not even sure I listened to every instrumental. 

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9 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Here’s a spicy one

I didn’t really care about most of the instrumentals leaked last summer. I listened to some of them only out of curiosity and then never again. Unfinished and without vocals I had very little interest and couldn’t even tell you one from the other. This is coming from a major Chinese fan.

You're missing out on a lot of really cool ChiDem style songs & riffs 

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18 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Here’s a spicy one

I didn’t really care about most of the instrumentals leaked last summer. I listened to some of them only out of curiosity and then never again. Unfinished and without vocals I had very little interest and couldn’t even tell you one from the other. This is coming from a major Chinese fan.

Honestly, the only instrumentals that piqued my interest were Elvis and Dummy. It was cool to hear Sorry's instrumental too.

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On 1. 1. 2020 at 9:13 AM, AxlRoseCDII said:

Here’s a spicy one

I didn’t really care about most of the instrumentals leaked last summer. I listened to some of them only out of curiosity and then never again. Unfinished and without vocals I had very little interest and couldn’t even tell you one from the other. This is coming from a major Chinese fan.

I agree. I’ve said it here before. No Axl, no way. Just a bunch of hired guys playing some electronic video-game music. Not interested without vocals.

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For those of you who happen not to know this... I've stumbled upon this interview with Doug Goldstein (what a name for a manager, huh?) describing how the old band used to split the loot. Could be legit. 

“Publishing splits were 20/20/20 [for] Duff, Slash, Izzy, and then 25 [percent for] Axl, and 15 Steven.

“That was a gift to Steven – I mean, Axl used to say that all the time. I wasn’t around for the writing, but he was like, ‘Look, they were trying to force me into even splits.’

“Steven never wrote anything, so he considered that a big gift to Steven.”

https://metaladdicts.com/site/former-guns-n-roses-manager-doug-goldstein-talked-about-how-the-band-members-used-to-split-their-publishing-rights-back-in-the-day/

 

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1 hour ago, jamillos said:

For those of you who happen not to know this... I've stumbled upon this interview with Doug Goldstein (what a name for a manager, huh?) describing how the old band used to split the loot. Could be legit. 

“Publishing splits were 20/20/20 [for] Duff, Slash, Izzy, and then 25 [percent for] Axl, and 15 Steven.

“That was a gift to Steven – I mean, Axl used to say that all the time. I wasn’t around for the writing, but he was like, ‘Look, they were trying to force me into even splits.’

“Steven never wrote anything, so he considered that a big gift to Steven.”

https://metaladdicts.com/site/former-guns-n-roses-manager-doug-goldstein-talked-about-how-the-band-members-used-to-split-their-publishing-rights-back-in-the-day/

 

I am of course writing about this, and although I have only come to 1997 interviews (and thus miss Niven and Goldstein discuss the splitting of revenues), I have some information:

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Source: https://www.a-4-d.com/t4046p60-the-history-in-their-own-words#15842

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Was having this trip yday, to which I'd like to share a few moments tho:

When thought of GnR, I think somehow these guys are beyond tired of being "slaves" to shit they wrote in their teens-20s.

I mean, once you've been signed, get money ect. you also become assets of the industry, thus getting this sense of liability, in counter-parts. So now you're a professional performist and need to keep the wheel spinning around. Your art isn't as raw as before, nor as artistic anymore, but you gotta keep "commited" to It somehow to get biz done.

 

No wonder why they were high as kites back then, I'm just glad the 5 of them are alive.

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21 minutes ago, ezosk said:

Was having this trip yday, to which I'd like to share a few moments tho:

When thought of GnR, I think somehow these guys are beyond tired of being "slaves" to shit they wrote in their teens-20s.

I mean, once you've been signed, get money ect. you also become assets of the industry, thus getting this sense of liability, in counter-parts. So now you're a professional performist and need to keep the wheel spinning around. Your art isn't as raw as before, nor as artistic anymore, but you gotta keep "commited" to It somehow to get biz done.

 

No wonder why they were high as kites back then, I'm just glad the 5 of them are alive.

Yeah, they're getting "slave" wages for playing those songs too.  If they're that butthurt over it just take two weeks off then quit.

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i can't state any more clearly why I think the whole "wages" perspective is not nearly the most important thing in making music than what I've already written at the very post you quoted. And I don't even think I need to explain the use of " " also in the post.

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51 minutes ago, ezosk said:

i can't state any more clearly why I think the whole "wages" perspective is not nearly the most important thing in making music than what I've already written at the very post you quoted. And I don't even think I need to explain the use of " " also in the post.

You're right, it's not the most important thing but it's simply the nature of the business.  They understand this.

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Yeah I know they acknowledge it for a living but I just meant in a more fulfilling kind-a-thing (?). Theoretically they could/would have been having a blast touring the world getting all this love (and $) with their old songs, but can we be sure they fully enjoy the being stuck in constant repeatedly reviving their musical past? Sometimes judging by their current performances I wouldn't doubt they don't, in this sense I'm thinking.

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18 minutes ago, ezosk said:

Yeah I know they acknowledge it for a living but I just meant in a more fulfilling kind-a-thing (?). Theoretically they could/would have been having a blast touring the world getting all this love (and $) with their old songs, but can we be sure they fully enjoy the being stuck in constant repeatedly reviving their musical past? Sometimes judging by their current performances I wouldn't doubt they don't, in this sense I'm thinking.

From a creative standpoint I'm sure it can be stifling but this is Guns, not exactly the most prolific band in history.

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So, I thought this was kinda interesting. I was listening to the Pittsburgh '02 show last night. During SCOM, a few seconds after the first "where do we go now"... I swear that I can hear part of the Circus Maximus intro in the background. Something being sprinkled in by Pitman.

I listened to it a few more times, and unless my ears are deceiving me, I can still clearly hear it. Makes you wonder how many parts of the Village songs could've just been hiding in the background all along.

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Has As It Began ever been played during Axls piano spots? I’m sure someone on here said it had (or at least part of it)?

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I miss that we get no interviews with the band. From 88 upto the illusions era in my teens, i loved going to the newsagents and picking up a copy of metaledge,metal hammer, circus, hot metal and guarenteed there would be an interview with the band. Used to be in the newsagents all day just reading all those mags. Great time to find info about "my band". I miss those times.

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Fernando is dumb. He shouldn’t be focused on making GNR Toy Trucks!

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He should be focused on making GNR Toy TRAINS! That way, you can wheel them around and go “Choo choooo! Choo chooooooo!!”

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Man, it's boring now. But every time I think it's boring, I remember 2003–2005 and think "shut up". 

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On 1.1.2020 at 1:12 AM, Mendez said:

Anyone listen to Slash's Universal Horror Album? Its surprisngly cool. He does some not very "slash" guitar parts there, maybe because he has to restrain himself since he is just a cog in the machine, as opposed to being the main driving mattwr in the music

 

"The Danse of the Dead" is probably the best "song" as a whole

 

"We Belong Dead" he does some very unusual (for him) arpeggio after the whole dubstep thing, starting at 2:00. At first I thought he sweep picking lol but hes just picking everything

 

"Sweet Licks" he does some cool ambient guitar lead echo in the intro and throughout

I do and I like it a lot. Far better than anything SMKC.

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8 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

I miss that we get no interviews with the band. From 88 upto the illusions era in my teens, i loved going to the newsagents and picking up a copy of metaledge,metal hammer, circus, hot metal and guarenteed there would be an interview with the band. Used to be in the newsagents all day just reading all those mags. Great time to find info about "my band". I miss those times.

I miss those days too when music was real. These click bait sites make stories out of nothing. 

But I really can't take reading another bullshit interview about a new album. 

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7 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

Fernando is dumb. He shouldn’t be focused on making GNR Toy Trucks!

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He should be focused on making GNR Toy TRAINS! That way, you can wheel them around and go “Choo choooo! Choo chooooooo!!”

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