Popular Post Gambit83 Posted November 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2018 If you can believe it, the Guns N' Roses album "Chinese Democracy" will have been released 10 years ago as of November 23rd. The waiting, the hype, the mystery, the controversy... Here to reflect on the "then and now" of this infamous GNR record is Meltdown of WRIF in Detroit and @RussTCB of MyGNRForum.com. We discuss our first impressions back in 2008 and how we feel today. Comparisons to Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" and Mariah Carey's "Glitter" are made...plus we read YOUR thoughts and comments! And Bumblefoot makes a "text appearance." SoundCloud --> https://bit.ly/2Kk58feiHeartRadio --> https://ihr.fm/2CBVhPQ Spreaker --> https://bit.ly/2ziGHKX Siticher --> https://bit.ly/2HnXGhC Google Play --> https://play.google.com/music/m/Drjluxsvdi4gavxijltlessfb6y… 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Can’t wait to listen to this when I have a chance! Ten years...holy sh*t! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 This shouldn't be a controversial topic 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted November 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Gambit83 said: ....and Mariah Carey's "Glitter"... Come one, come all! Listen to me get made fun of for bringing up Glitter! Seriously though, this was a great time. Thanks for having me on again @Gambit83! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Awesome episode! Great job everyone. Hope a twitter campaign mobilizes to boost the albums profile! Mariah Carey will always be the Queen of Pop in my book. And yes, I agree, "UYI 3" is a good description of CDs sound. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJean Baby Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Awesome podcast, as always @Gambit83 😊 Nice hearing from @RussTCB and I liked your Twitter idea for CD. Would be happy to help with that, if you ever want to pursue it further 😊 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallex78 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Great episode guys! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandler72 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Got a long drive out of town today. This will help with the drive. Thanks! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 10 hours ago, metallex78 said: Great episode guys! I'm actually getting a lot more compliments on this episode than my previous two appearances. Apparently whatever I did on this episode is something I should duplicate in the future lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Great show today fellas 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, RussTCB said: I'm actually getting a lot more compliments on this episode than my previous two appearances. Apparently whatever I did on this episode is something I should duplicate in the future lol. You got points from the closeted Mariah Carey fans of this forum. Edited November 21, 2018 by Fourteenbeers 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 29 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: You got points from the closeted Mariah Carey fans of this forum. I like what I would call "Classic Mariah", personally. However, when I heard about that #JusticeForGlitter thing, I was honestly shocked by it. Seemed like a great thing to weave into a discussion about the popularlity (or lack thereof) with regard to Chinese Democracy. @Gambit83 and Meltdown seemed to disagree haha. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 20.11.2018 at 8:07 PM, soon said: And yes, I agree, "UYI 3" is a good description of CDs sound. I dunno. CD sounds more like a mixture of Queen, Elton John, NIN and certain film scores to me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Sosso said: I dunno. CD sounds more like a mixture of Queen, Elton John, NIN and certain film scores to me. They certainly do have different influences and sonics. While I do hear some Elton John on UYI, and could pad a position by pointing to little hints of NIN influence both sonically and lyrically on Garden of Eden and film scoring on NR, I see what you mean about having very different sounds from CD. Whereas May is very precise and measured, Slash was big and very present, with emotionally guided playing. So that alone closed the door on any overt Queen touches on UYI, imho. Although now Yesterdays solo is coming to mind. Anyways... What I took from the UYI 3 notion is that, like the UYI's progressing on from AFD with the nature of the band intact. The progression from UYI to CD was done in the same manner. A big step forward, but also very much in Guns trajectory. Using AFD to UYI as a comparison, that UYI to CD made perfect sense. Maybe I misunderstood Russ though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, soon said: They certainly do have different influences and sonics. While I do hear some Elton John on UYI, and could pad a position by pointing to little hints of NIN influence both sonically and lyrically on Garden of Eden and film scoring on NR, I see what you mean about having very different sounds from CD. Whereas May is very precise and measured, Slash was big and very present, with emotionally guided playing. So that alone closed the door on any overt Queen touches on UYI, imho. Although now Yesterdays solo is coming to mind. Anyways... What I took from the UYI 3 notion is that, like the UYI's progressing on from AFD with the nature of the band intact. The progression from UYI to CD was done in the same manner. A big step forward, but also very much in Guns trajectory. Using AFD to UYI as a comparison, that UYI to CD made perfect sense. Maybe I misunderstood Russ though. That's what I was talking about. Like this is the next step in their evolution. However, CD seems much closer to the vein of UYI then AFD to me. It doesn't seem like that big of a leap forward from UYI, at least to my ears. So that's why it equates to UYI 3 IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I dont understand what in my post made you 'sad' @Gambit83?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit83 Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, soon said: I dont understand what in my post made you 'sad' @Gambit83?? Accident 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, Gambit83 said: Accident 🙂 Hahaha, I was so confused!! thanks for clarifying! lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 CD is similar to AFD. Songs like Chi dem, Shackler’s, Scraped, Better, Riad, IRS, TWAT have a link to AFD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, wasted said: CD is similar to AFD. Songs like Chi dem, Shackler’s, Scraped, Better, Riad, IRS, TWAT have a link to AFD. On the booze again I see? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: On the booze again I see? Actually I have a kidney infection. So no booze. But this might be my last post but normally I survive. Obviously I don’t mean sound the same. But the riff of Chi dem is very Jungle in reverse. Shackler’s has the Easy voice. Scraped is the My Michelle riff with OTGM lyrics. Better is SCOM played by NIN. Riad - not sure, reviews always said Axl’s vocals were very AFD here. IRS is like Brownstone’s circular riffing. TWAT is the epic ballad version of Paradise City. Edited November 23, 2018 by wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azifwekare Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Great episode. Didn't realise Russ and Ron were buds. Very cool! Favourite quote: "You do understand women are allowed to play music in front of people, right? That's allowed." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Azifwekare said: Great episode. Didn't realise Russ and Ron were buds. Very cool! Favourite quote: "You do understand women are allowed to play music in front of people, right? That's allowed." There was SO much over reaction on here and other boards when she joined! I'm pretty scarred by those couple of weeks 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit83 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Scheduled interviews with Danko Jones this Thursday and Arian Buhler part 2 on Sunday. As always questions welcomed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 26/11/2018 at 7:31 PM, Gambit83 said: Scheduled interviews with Danko Jones this Thursday and Arian Buhler part 2 on Sunday. As always questions welcomed. Would you ask Arian why didn’t they do lithos for the 2016 Southamerican tour? It was the only leg of the entire NITL Tour that didn’t get lithos. I got the tango one in 2017 (La Plata, ARG with The Who), but they didn’t do any lithos for the first time they came down here. It was pretty disappointing. Thanks!! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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