Popular Post Fourteenbeers Posted December 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, alfierose said: Could be ominous. Maybe next time they are on stage it will just be the three of them looking like this. Is that the one-man band that split up because of artistic differences? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK6 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: They hide the others like they are a dirty secret. If they were going to forge ahead with everyone for writing and new material, great. Since they are not, and just going the nostalgia route, it was even more dumb not to have Izzy and Steven I know that Richard and Frank are making good money and playing to massive crowds but I wonder if they will regret what they've done with their talent in the future. They've created very little over long careers. Played other peoples songs a lot. Written and released bugger all. Almost feels like they've given their best years to Axl and in the end will have very little to show for it - other that a shit load of money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, DK6 said: I know that Richard and Frank are making good money and playing to massive crowds but I wonder if they will regret what they've done with their talent in the future. They've created very little over long careers. Played other peoples songs a lot. Written and released bugger all. Almost feels like they've given their best years to Axl and in the end will have very little to show for it - other that a shit load of money! That's enough for a lot of people though - to make a decent living out of music. The rock industry isn't what it was if you weren't already a big name pre 2000ish It's also a gamble to turn down a steady income to focus on your own material that may never get far. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Thing is, I do think Guns is playing with house money as far as a new album. It doesn’t even have to be great, just fundamentally not an embarrassment. The media and fans have come around on them, they’ve built up a good deal of good will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gimpy Hewitt said: THE BIG JANUARY ANNOUNCEMENT CAME EARLY It looks like they're basically mocking us. We can expect Chinese Democracy #18000 Tour (same songs, different members) Edited December 10, 2018 by Propaganda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Guns N' Roses are basically Axl, Slash and Duff now - at least the way they're being promoted. It is a curious alteration. Dizzy is ironically less significant than he was in 1991 (he was photographed in the illusion booklet) or Nugnr days! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 57 minutes ago, DK6 said: I know that Richard and Frank are making good money and playing to massive crowds but I wonder if they will regret what they've done with their talent in the future. They've created very little over long careers. Played other peoples songs a lot. Written and released bugger all. Almost feels like they've given their best years to Axl and in the end will have very little to show for it - other that a shit load of money! Richard did some cool stuff since he joined GNR tho, the two albuns he did with the Daisies are specially great. Not sure if he would be able to do that havent he joined GNR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK6 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, default_ said: Richard did some cool stuff since he joined GNR tho, the two albuns he did with the Daisies are specially great. Not sure if he would be able to do that havent he joined GNR. Yeah that's fair enough. I guess i was mostly thinking of GNR when i wrote that. He's been in GNR for 15+?? years and has written a bit of rhythm guitar behind a lead solo in one song. It doesn't seem like much to show for years of work in a band. Then again you don't need to be releasing music to be getting a lot of enjoyment out of writing it. So who knows what else he is up to. Basically - I just want them to release new music!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, DK6 said: Yeah that's fair enough. I guess i was mostly thinking of GNR when i wrote that. He's been in GNR for 15+?? years and has written a bit of rhythm guitar behind a lead solo in one song. It doesn't seem like much to show for years of work in a band. Then again you don't need to be releasing music to be getting a lot of enjoyment out of writing it. So who knows what else he is up to. Basically - I just want them to release new music!! Yeah, even if GNR decides to writte a new album im not so sure these guys would be creatively involved once Slash and Duff are back. But I guess he is happy where he is at, he is playin stadiums, earning a "lot" and making a livin of what he loves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 If I was getting paid how Dizzy/Fortus/Frank were I wouldn’t care about how I was represented in the band and neither would y’all lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: I would demand I be front and center on all promotional materials and album covers - or I walk. Anyone Bumbling for a Pitman walks Stinson’s plank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpy Hewitt Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 49 minutes ago, default_ said: Yeah, even if GNR decides to writte a new album im not so sure these guys would be creatively involved once Slash and Duff are back. But I guess he is happy where he is at, he is playin stadiums, earning a "lot" and making a livin of what he loves. Of the people in the band to be involved in a new album other than the big 3 I’d expect Fortus to be the most involved in composition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I could see it being a tightened up NITL live album. All the newish stuff makes a nice little album. Like a Live Best Of II. It’s so Easy Mr Brownstone Chinese Democracy Better Estranged Double Talking Jive Coma Shadow of your Love Whole Lotta Rosie Catcher in the Rye Nightrain Used to Love Her Wichita Lineman Madagascar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Fortus' playing still irks me in a good percent of the videos I watch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2019 -NITL live 2021 - UYI boxset 2024 - CD II 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK6 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, wasted said: I could see it being a tightened up NITL live album. All the newish stuff makes a nice little album. Like a Live Best Of II. It’s so Easy Mr Brownstone Chinese Democracy Better Estranged Double Talking Jive Coma Shadow of your Love Whole Lotta Rosie Catcher in the Rye Nightrain Used to Love Her Wichita Lineman Madagascar What's the likelihood of This I Love being left off? Nice idea though! You'd need a 3rd Disc just for RQ and KOHD! Edited December 11, 2018 by DK6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK6 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: Fortus' playing still irks me in a good percent of the videos I watch Same here! Not a fan of his playing at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I don't even think I would even buy a Live Album from this lineup. A Blu Ray for sure because visually you can make it more impressive but the band doesn't really sound good enough for an audio only live album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 56 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: I would demand I be front and center on all promotional materials and album covers - or I walk. Yes, for selfsteem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: I was actually being sarcastic. I'd probably just know my place and take the paycheck. A bit selfsteem don't is bad, i think as Diesel says they until ignored Dizzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidfire Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 IMO a live album is a bad idea unless Axl tighten up the vocals in the studio. It's too embarrassing to be released. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Oldest Goat said: Not having any self-esteem is bad? I agree but even in Dizzy's situation, he's not one of the guy's people care about or want to see. Axl keeps the hired hands around even though they're unnecessary, I don't think they deserve more than that. Self-esteem in Izzy or Steven's case makes sense to me. Sure that Izzy and Steven are of other league, but Dizzy many years is with Axl , but don't have minimun reconigtion, i guess he already be accostumed a this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said: Fortus' playing still irks me in a good percent of the videos I watch I sometimes wonder if he is playing certain parts to add something good to the song or the fact hes bored with the setlist. Hes been in the band for a number of years and basically been on numerous CD tours with the same setlist. There must be alot of boredom in his mind which would show in the playing out of frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidfire Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ratam said: Sure that Izzy and Steven are of other league, but Dizzy many years is with Axl , but don't have minimun reconigtion, i guess he already be accostumed a this situation. He seems to be a cool and down to earth guy. I think he's just grateful for Axl to include him in the band even when they didn't need him back in the 90s. As long as he's able to play Pretty Tied Up with Hookers & Blow, he's a happy man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: Not having any self-esteem is bad? I agree but even in Dizzy's situation, he's not one of the guy's people care about or want to see. Axl keeps the hired hands around even though they're unnecessary, I don't think they deserve more than that. Self-esteem in Izzy or Steven's case makes sense to me. Agree with this. Dizzy and frank are replaceable and not recognisable as major players as part of the guns n roses name/brand. Well at least amongst hardcore fans. It would go axl, slash, duff, richard, melissa and frank/dizzy as equal. I think axl has higher regard for melissa and as much as it pains me to say this any studio stuff she will be apart of for synths/programming stuff. Edited December 11, 2018 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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