GoForJMark Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Don't know if this has been posted here before, but it's my first time to see this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, GoForJMark said: Don't know if this has been posted here before, but it's my first time to see this. yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Looks like he kicks something at Axl maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNRS Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Yeah, the microphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I really think axl had some huge mental problems during the illusions tour. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Powderfinger said: Looks like he kicks something at Axl maybe? Maybe. He's seems to be into kicking people. TBH the guy in this video was really annoying... Edited December 13, 2018 by Fourteenbeers 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, RNRS said: Yeah, the microphone. I thought it landed further away but it probably rolled or bounced towards him.... Izzy don’t fuck around. 😂 Edited December 13, 2018 by Powderfinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neon Posted December 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2018 IIrc that was at the 1991 Mannheim, Germany concert. Right after the concert Izzy decided to leave the band. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 If IZZY or any other member of the band could have kicked AXL's ass back in those days, he wouldn't have got away with most of the things he did. While not a big guy at all, AXL was in better shape than any of them and considered crazy enough not to mess around with. Sorum was probably the only one that might have tried, but not being one of the original members probably kept him in check. He had too much to lose. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Izzy is a simple man. Recognizable by his person and his guitar playing. He just wants to make music without problems. Of course, in the 80's he was a rebel like the others. But I think that Izzy has changed in the early 90's. Almost 30 years old, he just wanted to go his own way and make music. Constantly the problems with Axl, constantly too late. I can totally understand him, that he left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikosgnr Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: I really think axl had some huge mental problems during the illusions tour. He talked about this period in "That Metal Show" interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAU3R Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, thunderram said: If IZZY or any other member of the band could have kicked AXL's ass back in those days, he wouldn't have got away with most of the things he did. While not a big guy at all, AXL was in better shape than any of them and considered crazy enough not to mess around with. Sorum was probably the only one that might have tried, but not being one of the original members probably kept him in check. He had too much to lose. I remember reading in Duff's autobiography that Matt once tried to challenge Axl when he didn't show up on time but got turned away by his security 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Ive seen different footage of the mic throw/Izzy mic kick in one of the docs or TV specials. In that angle Izzy, to me, doesnt look so much angry but authoritative. Like a boss saying "Get back to work." Whereas once Guns was in may ways Izzys band, by this point he'd been ignored, turned down and offered a pay cut. His look at Axl speaks volumes in that context, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, neon said: IIrc that was at the 1991 Mannheim, Germany concert. Right after the concert Izzy decided to leave the band. Is this the concert were there was almost another riot? I think I read in Slash's or Duff's book about Matt going after Axl when he left the stage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgina Arriaga Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, nikosgnr said: He talked about this period in "That Metal Show" interview. Can you elaborate a little bit? What he said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: I really think axl had some huge mental problems during the illusions tour. Had? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 10 hours ago, GoForJMark said: Don't know if this has been posted here before, but it's my first time to see this. This video always makes me sad. This is Guns n Roses falling apart completely (Steven was gone already). Izzy quit right after that show. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Wheel Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: I really think axl had some huge mental problems during the illusions tour. Yes. It's called bipolar disorder. He also had/has paranoid personality disorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: I really think axl had some huge mental problems during the illusions tour. Definitely. He had a fucked up childhood, anger issues, paranoia, would hold therapy sessions on stage, and explored all kinds of weird therapy and psychic things looking for peace and happiness. I don't think he was simply a self-absorbed asshole, I think he was someone who was suffering and didn't know how to handle it along with the fame and money he had rather suddenly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 13 hours ago, Fourteenbeers said: Maybe. He's seems to be into kicking people. TBH the guy in this video was really annoying... Wow, lol, Izzy went all Chuck Norris on that bonehead. He's probably slow to anger but watch out when he gets there. Was this during his first tour with the Ju Ju Hounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, lame ass security said: Wow, lol, Izzy went all Chuck Norris on that bonehead. He's probably slow to anger but watch out when he gets there. Was this during his first tour with the Ju Ju Hounds? Yup. Pumpehuset, Copenhagen, Denmark 21.11.1992 (it's in the video description). It's a popular venue, I was going to check the place out when I visited Copenhagen few years ago, but I didn't have time. Now that it crossed my mind. More of Izzy's tour history (post 1991) and other Izzy related info, can be found here in case somebody's interested: https://izzystradlin.wixsite.com/unofficial It's a website one of our fellow Izzy fans has made. Edited December 13, 2018 by Fourteenbeers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: I really think axl had some huge mental problems during the illusions tour. He had the "too much too soon egomaniac syndrome"! Edited December 13, 2018 by Propaganda 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Fourteenbeers said: Yup. Pumpehuset, Copenhagen, Denmark 21.11.1992 (it's in the video description). It's a popular venue, I was going to check the place out when I visited Copenhagen few years ago, but I didn't have time. Now that it crossed my mind. More of Izzy's tour history (post 1991) and other Izzy related info, can be found here in case somebody's interested: https://izzystradlin.wixsite.com/unofficial It's a website one of our fellow Izzy fans has made. Very cool, I'll check it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Tori72 said: This video always makes me sad. This is Guns n Roses falling apart completely (Steven was gone already). Izzy quit right after that show. Is it a fact that he quit after this show? Wembley was his last concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoForJMark Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Modano09 said: Definitely. He had a fucked up childhood, anger issues, paranoia, would hold therapy sessions on stage, and explored all kinds of weird therapy and psychic things looking for peace and happiness. I don't think he was simply a self-absorbed asshole, I think he was someone who was suffering and didn't know how to handle it along with the fame and money he had rather suddenly. Don't forget the yes-men around him. This one concert probably added more fuel to Izzy's decision to leave. I wonder how they patched up in '06 though, because in '02 Axl is still talking a lot of shit about Izzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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