Serpens Albus Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hello. I would like to know what the first time all the Chinese Democracy track were played live. If possible please list the first known / reported time each track was played live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 You can find all that on Soulmonster's site, http://www.a-4-d.com/ Just go to the database and pick a song. You'll read everything there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Chinese Democracy - House of Blues 2001 Shackler’s Revenge - Taipei 2009 Better - Hammerstein 2006 Show 1 (not sure) Street of Dreams - House of Blues 2001 If the World - Osaka 2009 TWAT - Hammerstein 2006 (can’t remember which of the 4 shows it was) Catcher - Osaka 2009 Scraped - Seoul 2009 Riad - House of Blues 2001 Sorry - Seoul 2009 IRS - one of the 2006 shows (not sure which exactly) Madagascar - Rock in Rio 2001 TIL - Taipei 2009 Prostitute - Osaka 2009 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpens Albus Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lio said: You can find all that on Soulmonster's site, http://www.a-4-d.com/ Just go to the database and pick a song. You'll read everything there. Thank you very much, I appreciate it! 1 minute ago, rocknroll41 said: Chinese Democracy - House of Blues 2001 Shackler’s Revenge - Taipei 2009 Better - Hammerstein 2006 Show 1 (not sure) Street of Dreams - House of Blues 2001 If the World - Osaka 2009 TWAT - Hammerstein 2006 (can’t remember which of the 4 shows it was) Catcher - Osaka 2009 Scraped - Seoul 2009 Riad - House of Blues 2001 Sorry - Seoul 2009 IRS - one of the 2006 shows (not sure which exactly) Madagascar - Rock in Rio 2001 TIL - Taipei 2009 Prostitute - Osaka 2009 ty and I love the track listing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Serpens Albus said: Thank you very much, I appreciate it! ty and I love the track listing! No problem! Quick correction: If the World’s live debut was actually Taipei 2009, not Osaka. Edited January 8, 2019 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zombux Posted January 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2019 40 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: TWAT - Hammerstein 2006 (can’t remember which of the 4 shows it was) it was the first show. so GREAT! "wait wait say that again..." - "I'm having a really good fucking time, are you?" - "You have no idea how much that meant" one of the most intense GNR moments ever. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Man, those early performances of SOD were great, especially at RiR 2001. Axl's vocals were epic and he was very energetic, jumping off the piano. I remember they showed Noel Gallagher backstage and he was pretty much in awe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The shows from December 2009 are some of my personal favourites from GN'R, especially the show from Osaka. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) I was at the first night at Hammerstein and Axl was on fire. Vocals on Better were so good! Edited January 8, 2019 by Swampfox Miss spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Swampfox said: I was at the first night at Hammerstein and Axl was on fire. Vocals on Better were so good! The first time I saw them play Better was in 2010. During the bridge part, Axl ripped out his monitors, flipped out at his sound guy and went over to yell at him, then belted out the "so full of anger..." lines with incredible intensity. (Probably not having his IEM's in is the reason he screamed that part so intensely, but it was very 'classic Axl' anyway) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underhardy Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: The first time I saw them play Better was in 2010. During the bridge part, Axl ripped out his monitors, flipped out at his sound guy and went over to yell at him, then belted out the "so full of anger..." lines with incredible intensity. (Probably not having his IEM's in is the reason he screamed that part so intensely, but it was very 'classic Axl' anyway) Video? Which gig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birk Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Better, IRS, TWAT 1st show at Hammerstein 2006 What a show! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiley Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Lio said: You can find all that on Soulmonster's site, http://www.a-4-d.com/ Just go to the database and pick a song. You'll read everything there. have not been there before - looks like plenty of reading to do there does anyone know, i have an old excel sheet that had each song and how often they were played live. i noticed soulmonster's site has how many times each song was played when you read through the details. any idea if those numbers are correct - and where is he pulling that info from? has anyone else seen that spreadsheet before and is there an updated version of it in existence anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, smiley said: have not been there before - looks like plenty of reading to do there does anyone know, i have an old excel sheet that had each song and how often they were played live. i noticed soulmonster's site has how many times each song was played when you read through the details. any idea if those numbers are correct - and where is he pulling that info from? has anyone else seen that spreadsheet before and is there an updated version of it in existence anywhere? No idea, sorry. @SoulMonster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, Underhardy said: Video? Which gig I've never been able to find a video of it (security was ridiculously strict about filming that night, apparently) but it was Calgary 2010, the 2nd show of the Canadian tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Lio said: No idea, sorry. @SoulMonster? 2 hours ago, smiley said: have not been there before - looks like plenty of reading to do there does anyone know, i have an old excel sheet that had each song and how often they were played live. i noticed soulmonster's site has how many times each song was played when you read through the details. any idea if those numbers are correct - and where is he pulling that info from? has anyone else seen that spreadsheet before and is there an updated version of it in existence anywhere? Hi! No, the numbers are not updated. In fact, it should state when those numbers were correct ("as per xx this song has been played yy times live"). Lately I have simply been too busy with other things to update,so I lack most data from 2016 an onwards. What I have is simply a spreadsheet where every show is listed, with known setlists and lineups. From this I can extract all kinds of data. These data are then fed into my site. But again, these numbers are currently outdated but, when time permits, I will update them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 setlist.fm has A LOT of data concerning live performances, including standard sets for specific years, most played songs, you can change search parameters to tours, specific shows etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Chinese Democracy January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas) Shackler's Revenge December 11th, 2009 (Taipei) Better May 12th, 2006 (New York) Street of Dreams January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas) If The World December 11th, 2009 (Taipei) There Was a Time May 12th, 2006 (New York) Catcher in the Rye December 16th, 2009 (Osaka) Scraped December 16th, 2009 (Osaka) Riad N' the Bedouins January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas) Sorry December 13th, 2009 (Seoul) I.R.S. May 12th, 2006 (New York) Madagascar January 14th, 2001 (Rock in Rio) This I Love December 11th, 2009 (Taipei) Prostitute December 16th, 2009 (Osaka) Chronologically, January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas; Debut of Chinese Democracy, Street of Dreams, Riad N' the Bedouins) January 14th, 2001 (Rock in Rio; Debut of Madagascar) May 12th, 2006 (New York; Debut of Better, There Was a Time, I.R.S.) December 11th, 2009 (Taipei; Debut of Shackler's Revenge, If The World, This I Love) December 13th, 2009 (Seoul; Debut of Sorry) December 16th, 2009 (Osaka; Debut of Catcher in the Rye, Scraped, Prostitute) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, UsedYourIllusion said: setlist.fm has A LOT of data concerning live performances, including standard sets for specific years, most played songs, you can change search parameters to tours, specific shows etc. correct. https://www.setlist.fm/stats/guns-n-roses-7bd69e24.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Gackt said: Chinese Democracy January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas) Shackler's Revenge December 11th, 2009 (Taipei) Better May 12th, 2006 (New York) Street of Dreams January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas) If The World December 11th, 2009 (Taipei) There Was a Time May 12th, 2006 (New York) Catcher in the Rye December 16th, 2009 (Osaka) Scraped December 16th, 2009 (Osaka) Riad N' the Bedouins January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas) Sorry December 13th, 2009 (Seoul) I.R.S. May 12th, 2006 (New York) Madagascar January 14th, 2001 (Rock in Rio) This I Love December 11th, 2009 (Taipei) Prostitute December 16th, 2009 (Osaka) Chronologically, January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas; Debut of Chinese Democracy, Street of Dreams, Riad N' the Bedouins) January 14th, 2001 (Rock in Rio; Debut of Madagascar) May 12th, 2006 (New York; Debut of Better, There Was a Time, I.R.S.) December 11th, 2009 (Taipei; Debut of Shackler's Revenge, If The World, This I Love) December 13th, 2009 (Seoul; Debut of Sorry) December 16th, 2009 (Osaka; Debut of Catcher in the Rye, Scraped, Prostitute) It's really cool Axl has played every song off of Chinese Democracy. Few bands play every song off of an album any more. In fact just about every GnR song has been played live it seems. Very cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Bitchisback said: It's really cool Axl has played every song off of Chinese Democracy. Few bands play every song off of an album any more. In fact just about every GnR song has been played live it seems. Very cool. yes, but interestingly, Rhiad was only played during 2001 and 2002 shows, not in later years, unlike all other ChiDem songs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Rhiad is a very hard song to sing, Axl used to sound pretty rough in 2002 when they hit it a few times, so it's no wonder it never made an appearance live again. Okay how about the last time all the songs were played? I know Scraped made a brief setlist return late 2011, Rhiad on the North American leg a few times in late 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, zombux said: correct. https://www.setlist.fm/stats/guns-n-roses-7bd69e24.html If you would have said to me in 2015, "Hey, Slash and Duff will teammup with Axl again, and Coma will be played more on the accompanying tour than the songs Pretty Tied Up, Perfect Crime and the Garden have been ever played combined" I would have said you're crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, UsedYourIllusion said: If you would have said to me in 2015, "Hey, Slash and Duff will teammup with Axl again, and Coma will be played more on the accompanying tour than the songs Pretty Tied Up, Perfect Crime and the Garden have been ever played combined" I would have said you're crazy yeah. and also if you told me in February 2006, when Better first leaked, that it will have 450 live plays in 2019 and a huge number with Slash, I'd be laughing hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, zombux said: yeah. and also if you told me in February 2006, when Better first leaked, that it will have 450 live plays in 2019 and a huge number with Slash, I'd be laughing hard. Maybe more with Slash than with the rest of the band.. at least close to it Edited January 9, 2019 by UsedYourIllusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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