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Hello. I would like to know what the first time all the Chinese Democracy track were played live. 

If possible please list the first known / reported time each track was played live. 

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You can find all that on Soulmonster's site, http://www.a-4-d.com/

Just go to the database and pick a song. You'll read everything there.

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Chinese Democracy - House of Blues 2001

Shackler’s Revenge - Taipei 2009

Better - Hammerstein 2006 Show 1 (not sure)

Street of Dreams - House of Blues 2001

If the World - Osaka 2009

TWAT - Hammerstein 2006 (can’t remember which of the 4 shows it was)

Catcher - Osaka 2009

Scraped - Seoul 2009

Riad - House of Blues 2001

Sorry - Seoul 2009

IRS - one of the 2006 shows (not sure which exactly)

Madagascar - Rock in Rio 2001

TIL - Taipei 2009

Prostitute - Osaka 2009

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5 minutes ago, Lio said:

You can find all that on Soulmonster's site, http://www.a-4-d.com/

Just go to the database and pick a song. You'll read everything there.

Thank you very much, I appreciate it!

1 minute ago, rocknroll41 said:

Chinese Democracy - House of Blues 2001

Shackler’s Revenge - Taipei 2009

Better - Hammerstein 2006 Show 1 (not sure)

Street of Dreams - House of Blues 2001

If the World - Osaka 2009

TWAT - Hammerstein 2006 (can’t remember which of the 4 shows it was)

Catcher - Osaka 2009

Scraped - Seoul 2009

Riad - House of Blues 2001

Sorry - Seoul 2009

IRS - one of the 2006 shows (not sure which exactly)

Madagascar - Rock in Rio 2001

TIL - Taipei 2009

Prostitute - Osaka 2009

ty and I love the track listing!

 

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46 minutes ago, Serpens Albus said:

Thank you very much, I appreciate it!

ty and I love the track listing!

 

No problem! Quick correction: If the World’s live debut was actually Taipei 2009, not Osaka.

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Man, those early performances of SOD were great, especially at RiR 2001.  Axl's vocals were epic and he was very energetic, jumping off the piano.  I remember they showed Noel Gallagher backstage and he was pretty much in awe. 

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The shows from December 2009 are some of my personal favourites from GN'R, especially the show from Osaka. 

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I was at the first night at Hammerstein and Axl was on fire.  Vocals on Better were so good!

 

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4 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

I was at the first night at Hammerstein and Axl was on fire.  Vocals on Better were so good!

 

The first time I saw them play Better was in 2010. During the bridge part, Axl ripped out his monitors, flipped out at his sound guy and went over to yell at him, then belted out the "so full of anger..." lines with incredible intensity. (Probably not having his IEM's in is the reason he screamed that part so intensely, but it was very 'classic Axl' anyway)

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22 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

The first time I saw them play Better was in 2010. During the bridge part, Axl ripped out his monitors, flipped out at his sound guy and went over to yell at him, then belted out the "so full of anger..." lines with incredible intensity. (Probably not having his IEM's in is the reason he screamed that part so intensely, but it was very 'classic Axl' anyway)

Video? Which gig

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Better, IRS, TWAT

1st show at Hammerstein 2006

What a show!

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2 hours ago, Lio said:

You can find all that on Soulmonster's site, http://www.a-4-d.com/

Just go to the database and pick a song. You'll read everything there.

have not been there before - looks like plenty of reading to do there ;)

does anyone know, i have an old excel sheet that had each song and how often they were played live. i noticed soulmonster's site has how many times each song was played when you read through the details. any idea if those numbers are correct - and where is he pulling that info from? has anyone else seen that spreadsheet before and is there an updated version of it in existence anywhere?

 

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2 minutes ago, smiley said:

have not been there before - looks like plenty of reading to do there ;)

does anyone know, i have an old excel sheet that had each song and how often they were played live. i noticed soulmonster's site has how many times each song was played when you read through the details. any idea if those numbers are correct - and where is he pulling that info from? has anyone else seen that spreadsheet before and is there an updated version of it in existence anywhere?

 

No idea, sorry. @SoulMonster?

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34 minutes ago, Underhardy said:

Video? Which gig

I've never been able to find a video of it (security was ridiculously strict about filming that night, apparently) but it was Calgary 2010, the 2nd show of the Canadian tour.

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1 hour ago, Lio said:

No idea, sorry. @SoulMonster?

 

2 hours ago, smiley said:

have not been there before - looks like plenty of reading to do there ;)

does anyone know, i have an old excel sheet that had each song and how often they were played live. i noticed soulmonster's site has how many times each song was played when you read through the details. any idea if those numbers are correct - and where is he pulling that info from? has anyone else seen that spreadsheet before and is there an updated version of it in existence anywhere?

 

Hi! No, the numbers are not updated. In fact, it should state when those numbers were correct ("as per xx this song has been played yy times live"). Lately I have simply been too busy with other things to update,so I lack most data from 2016 an onwards. 

What I have is simply a spreadsheet where every show is listed, with known setlists and lineups. From this I can extract all kinds of data. These data are then fed into my site. 

But again, these numbers are currently outdated but, when time permits, I will update them. 

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setlist.fm has A LOT of data concerning live performances, including standard sets for specific years, most played songs, you can change search parameters to tours, specific shows etc. 

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  1. Chinese Democracy      January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas)
  2. Shackler's Revenge      December 11th, 2009 (Taipei)
  3. Better                         May 12th, 2006 (New York)
  4. Street of Dreams         January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas)
  5. If The World               December 11th, 2009 (Taipei)
  6. There Was a Time       May 12th, 2006 (New York)
  7. Catcher in the Rye       December 16th, 2009 (Osaka)
  8. Scraped                     December 16th, 2009 (Osaka)
  9. Riad N' the Bedouins    January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas)
  10. Sorry                         December 13th, 2009 (Seoul)
  11. I.R.S.                         May 12th, 2006 (New York)
  12. Madagascar                January 14th, 2001 (Rock in Rio)
  13. This I Love                 December 11th, 2009 (Taipei)
  14. Prostitute                   December 16th, 2009 (Osaka)

 

Chronologically,

  • January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas;  Debut of Chinese Democracy, Street of Dreams, Riad N' the Bedouins)
  • January 14th, 2001 (Rock in Rio; Debut of Madagascar)
  • May 12th, 2006 (New York; Debut of Better, There Was a Time, I.R.S.)
  • December 11th, 2009 (Taipei; Debut of Shackler's Revenge, If The World, This I Love)
  • December 13th, 2009 (Seoul; Debut of Sorry)
  • December 16th, 2009 (Osaka; Debut of Catcher in the Rye, Scraped, Prostitute)
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2 hours ago, Gackt said:
  1. Chinese Democracy      January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas)
  2. Shackler's Revenge      December 11th, 2009 (Taipei)
  3. Better                         May 12th, 2006 (New York)
  4. Street of Dreams         January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas)
  5. If The World               December 11th, 2009 (Taipei)
  6. There Was a Time       May 12th, 2006 (New York)
  7. Catcher in the Rye       December 16th, 2009 (Osaka)
  8. Scraped                     December 16th, 2009 (Osaka)
  9. Riad N' the Bedouins    January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas)
  10. Sorry                         December 13th, 2009 (Seoul)
  11. I.R.S.                         May 12th, 2006 (New York)
  12. Madagascar                January 14th, 2001 (Rock in Rio)
  13. This I Love                 December 11th, 2009 (Taipei)
  14. Prostitute                   December 16th, 2009 (Osaka)

 

Chronologically,

  • January 1st, 2001 (Las Vegas;  Debut of Chinese Democracy, Street of Dreams, Riad N' the Bedouins)
  • January 14th, 2001 (Rock in Rio; Debut of Madagascar)
  • May 12th, 2006 (New York; Debut of Better, There Was a Time, I.R.S.)
  • December 11th, 2009 (Taipei; Debut of Shackler's Revenge, If The World, This I Love)
  • December 13th, 2009 (Seoul; Debut of Sorry)
  • December 16th, 2009 (Osaka; Debut of Catcher in the Rye, Scraped, Prostitute)

It's really cool Axl has played every song off of Chinese Democracy.  Few bands play every song off of an album any more.  In fact just about every GnR song has been played live it seems.  Very cool.

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1 hour ago, Bitchisback said:

It's really cool Axl has played every song off of Chinese Democracy.  Few bands play every song off of an album any more.  In fact just about every GnR song has been played live it seems.  Very cool.

yes, but interestingly, Rhiad was only played during 2001 and 2002 shows, not in later years, unlike all other ChiDem songs.

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Rhiad is a very hard song to sing, Axl used to sound pretty rough in 2002 when they hit it a few times, so it's no wonder it never made an appearance live again. 

Okay how about the last time all the songs were played? I know Scraped made a brief setlist return late 2011, Rhiad on the North American leg a few times in late 2002. 

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2 hours ago, zombux said:

If you would have said to me in 2015, 

"Hey, Slash and Duff will teammup with Axl again, and Coma will be played more on the accompanying tour than the songs Pretty Tied Up, Perfect Crime and the Garden have been ever played combined"

I would have said you're crazy

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5 minutes ago, UsedYourIllusion said:

If you would have said to me in 2015, 

"Hey, Slash and Duff will teammup with Axl again, and Coma will be played more on the accompanying tour than the songs Pretty Tied Up, Perfect Crime and the Garden have been ever played combined"

I would have said you're crazy

yeah. and also if you told me in February 2006, when Better first leaked, that it will have 450 live plays in 2019 and a huge number with Slash, I'd be laughing hard.

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2 minutes ago, zombux said:

yeah. and also if you told me in February 2006, when Better first leaked, that it will have 450 live plays in 2019 and a huge number with Slash, I'd be laughing hard.

Maybe more with Slash than with the rest of the band.. at least close to it

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