TeeJay410 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I have been searching and have been unable to find what I'm looking for, which is essentially an organized page detailing which versions of Chinese Democracy Era songs are floating around. Ex. I.R.S. -'99 -Trunk -'02 -MSL -Antiquiet Something like that, showing each version of the songs and where/when they are from. Anyone know of anything like this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernandoGNR Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 This may help you http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/220883-guns-n-roses-related-studio-sessions-a-definitive-collection-of-available-info/ 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUCKETHEAD lAND Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Here's what I've got: 1999: Catcher In The Rye [Ft. Brian May] -- [Leaked 28-02-2006] I.R.S -- [Leaked 27-05-2006] There Was A Time [A.K.A T.W.A.T] -- [Leaked 27-05-2006] "Checkmate" [A.K.A Jackie Chan] -- [Short clip leaked 27-05-2006] Atlas Shrugged [ft. Brian May] -- [Does not circulate] Sweet Child O' Mine -- [Part of AFD '99] 2001: Madagascar -- [Leaked 12-11-2017] The Blues [A.K.A Street of Dreams] -- [Leaked 10-06-2018] There Was A Time -- [Leaked 10-06-2018] 2002: I.R.S -- [NO INFO, POSSIBLY FAKE] There Was A Time [Instrumental] -- [NO INFO, POSSIBLY FAKE] Boston Radio Promo -- [Promoting their shows] Albany Radio Promo -- [Promoting their shows] 2002 Promo Video -- [Promoting their shows] 2002 - VMA Rehearsals 5 Second clip without watermark -- [No info when leaked] 44 Second clip with watermark -- [No info when leaked] 2003 - Eddie Trunk I.R.S. [Piazza/Trunk Incident] -- [Leaked 15-02-2006] 2006 - Ron Thal Guitar Overlays Going Down -- [Leaked 16-08-2013] Oh My God -- [Short clip leaked 09-02-2013, full song Leaked 07-06-2018] Silkworms -- [Short clip leaked 09-02-2013, full song Leaked 08-06-2018] Atlas Shrugged -- [Does not circulate] 2006 - Leaked Demos There Was A Time [Short version] -- [Leaked 17-02-2006] There Was A Time [Long version] -- [Leaked 17-02-2006] Better -- [Leaked 22-02-2006] I.R.S [Instrumental] --- [Leaked 10-03-2006] There Was A Time [Short version instrumental] -- [Leaked 15-03-2006] There Was A Time [Long version instrumental] -- [Leaked 14-03-2006] Better [Instrumental] -- [Leaked 08-03-2006] 2007 - Harley Davidson incident Better [Probably the same as Harley Davidson commercial] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007] Better [Harley Davidson commercial] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007] Better [Harley Davidson commercial audio] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007] Paradise City version Paradise City version -- [AUDIO] [Same commercial was made using Paradise City instead, both are included] 2007 - MSL Madagascar -- [Leaked 29-03-2007] Chinese Democracy -- [Leaked 05-05-2007] The Blues [A.K.A Street of Dreams] -- [Leaked 05-05-2007] I.R.S. -- [Leaked 05-05-2007] There Was A Time -- [Leaked 06-05-2007] Rhiad N' The Bedouins [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate] Prostitute [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate] Atlas Shrugged [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate] Silkworms [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate] 2008 - Antiquiet Chinese Democracy [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] I.R.S. [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] Madagascar [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] The Blues [A.K.A Street Of Dreams] [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] There Was A Time [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] Rhiad And The Bedouins [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #1] Prostitute [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #2] If The World [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #3] Shackler's Revenge [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 14-08-2008 as Chicken Dinner] [Unsure if Shackler's Revenge is from the MSL or Antiquiet batch] 2008 - Best Buy Promos Chinese Democracy, Scraped MISSING There Was A Time, Chinese Democracy, Scraped Riad N' The Bedouins, Chinese Democracy Chinese Democracy Prostitute, Chinese Democracy There Was A Time, Chinese Democracy, Shackler's Revenge Better, Chinese Democracy Prostitute, Chinese Democracy [#2] Scraped Chinese Democracy [#2] Chinese Democracy, Better Chinese Democracy, Better [#2] Chinese Democracy [#3] Chinese Democracy [#4] Chinese Democracy [#5] [Excerpts of finished album versions to promote the realease, each clip is around 15 seconds] 2008 - Body of Lies If The World [ITW plays during the end credits of the 2008 movie "Body of Lies", which was released in october, over a month before Chinese Democracy was released] 2008 - Barefoot Better [Ron Thal's Acoustic] [Outtake from Bumblefoot's 2008 acoustic EP "Barefoot"] 2009 / 2010 - Brain Remixes 01 - Shackler's Revenge [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-26-2018, short clip leaked 09-12-2013] 02 - If The World [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-26-2018, short clip leaked 09-12-2013] 03 - Prostitute [Remix] -- [Leaked 07-05-2012 as Blood In The Water] 04 - Better [Remix] -- [Leaked XX-01-2012 as Better Gone] 05 - This I Love [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-10-2018, short clip leaked 09-02-2013] 06 - Unknown Remix -- [Does not circulate] 07 - If The World [Brain & Melissa] -- [Live] 08 - Sorry [Brain & Melissa] -- [Live] [Brain and Melissa Reese performed at a Houston Rockets halftime show on November 10, 2017, performing remixes of "Sorry" and "If the World" from Chinese Democracy, and a cover of KISS's "Do You Love Me?" from Destroyer.] 2009 - Dj Ashba tracks Better [Dj Ashba remix] -- [Leaked 16-08-2013] Ballad Of Death [Guitar solo] -- [Leaked 26-06-2018] Mi Amor [Guitar solo] -- [Leaked 26-06-2018] 2009 - Stinson / Ron rehearsals Catcher In The Rye ----------- [Does not circulate] Madagascar ------------------- [Does not circulate] Chinese Democracy ------------ [Leaked 05-12-2018] Scraped ---------------------- [Does not circulate] Welcome To The Jungle -------- [Does not circulate] It's So Easy ----------------- [Does not circulate] Mr. Brownstone --------------- [Does not circulate] There Was A Time ------------- [Does not circulate] Richard Solo ----------------- [Does not circulate] Live And Let Die ------------- [Does not circulate] Sorry ------------------------ [Does not circulate] If The World [False start] --- [Does not circulate] If The World #2--------------- [Does not circulate] Unknown Instrumental Jam ----- [Does not circulate] Prostitute ------------------- [Does not circulate] Rocket Queen ----------------- [Does not circulate] My Michelle ------------------ [Does not circulate] Catcher In The Rye #2 -------- [Does not circulate] Street Of Dreams ------------- [Does not circulate] Knockin' On Heaven's Door ---- [Does not circulate] You Could Be Mine ------------ [Does not circulate] I.R.S ------------------------ [Does not circulate] DJ Ashba Solo ---------------- [Does not circulate] Sweet Child O' Mine ---------- [Does not circulate] Unknown Instrumental Jam #2 -- [Does not circulate] This I Love ------------------ [Does not circulate] This I Love #2 --------------- [Does not circulate] November Rain ---------------- [Does not circulate] Bumblefoot Solo -------------- [Does not circulate] Shackler's Revenge ----------- [Does not circulate] Out Ta Get Me ---------------- [Does not circulate] Nightrain -------------------- [Does not circulate] Better ----------------------- [Does not circulate] Patience --------------------- [Does not circulate] Paradise City ---------------- [Does not circulate] [Tommy Stinson and Bumblefoot does vocals on Chinese Democracy, unsure if they do vocals on all songs. Most recent leak] 2009 - Rock Band 2 Chinese Democracy [as DLC] Shackler's Revenge Better [as DLC] Street of Dreams [as DLC] If The World [as DLC] There Was A Time [as DLC] Catcher In The Rye [as DLC] Scraped [as DLC] [Not all tracks! Most likely different mixes, very noticeable on Better. Vocals, guitar, drums etc are isolated] 2010 - Vienna Afterparty "The General" [Phone recording] Silkworms [Does not circulate, plays before "The General"] Still looking to complete some stuff, most of it is finished. Almost all information comes from this. Edited January 16, 2019 by bUCKETHEAD lAND 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 nice list. I like to see it from a bit different perspective, while still being strictly chronological. my internal OCD likes this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Wagszilla said: You know, it's bad for you if you block blood flow. I think we need to get things circulating up in here. say that to Alfred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonKinight Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, bUCKETHEAD lAND said: 2002 - VMA Rehearsals 5 Second clip without watermark -- [No info when leaked] 44 Second clip with watermark -- [No info when leaked] It leaked Aug 16, by a guy named jm45, who has also uncirculated soundboards from 1985. He was involved with me and some other guys, and also the only one left with the VMA 2002 in it's entirety. History was that he (the guy with VMA) was asking 10k for the whole thing, and we were thinking 'bout croundfunding, but we had virtualy no proof that he had it. So, he sent us the 5 second clip. We received it in 20 July, 2018. Then, when he realized that we WANTED IT, he sent us the 44 second clip. And then, Judas Iscari....oh, I mean, Jm45, leaked it on discord, and now everybody has it. Thanks to redpanda clan and especially, for jm45. Oh no, I said too much. I Haven't said it all. 5 hours ago, bUCKETHEAD lAND said: 2003 - Unknown Chinese Democracy -- [NO INFO, POSSIBLY FAKE] This I Love -- [NO INFO, POSSIBLY FAKE] Both are fake. """TIL 03""" is just the normal TIL we have with a louder bass. Bullshit. Edited January 16, 2019 by NeonKinight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUCKETHEAD lAND Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, NeonKinight said: Both are fake. """TIL 03""" is just the normal TIL we have with a louder bass. Thanks! Do you know anything about ISE '99? I'd call fake but it sounds good to my untrained ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 no need to check, it's fake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUCKETHEAD lAND Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, zombux said: no need to check, it's fake. Thought so, listened through it thoroughly and it's fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wagszilla said: Alfred - Time to get things circulating. But surely there are more people with Atlas Shrugged? yeah, same with Yetti. many people claim to have seen it, but zero real proofs, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayfox Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 What’s the story on 2007 Riad and Prostitute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUCKETHEAD lAND Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Grayfox said: What’s the story on 2007 Riad and Prostitute? No idea, they don't circulate so I'm guessing there's no story other than us knowing they exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayfox Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, bUCKETHEAD lAND said: No idea, they don't circulate so I'm guessing there's no story other than us knowing they exist. I mean like the story on people knowing they exist. I’d never heard of them until now that’s why I was curious. I’ve known of several things existing some “allegedly” but those ones I’ve just never seen mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUCKETHEAD lAND Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Grayfox said: I mean like the story on people knowing they exist. I’d never heard of them until now that’s why I was curious. I’ve known of several things existing some “allegedly” but those ones I’ve just never seen mentioned. They were reported by ClassicRock, more than that I don't know, maybe checking out the article could help? I haven't read it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayfox Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, bUCKETHEAD lAND said: They were reported by ClassicRock, more than that I don't know, maybe checking out the article could help? I haven't read it Oh that, okay I know what you’re talking now. The way it was categorized I thought MSL or someone from that neck of the woods mentioned it in some form. I remember he claimed having heard things over the phone and etc. I thought that was it. Side note, someone can correct me if I’m wrong. But didn’t one of the articles from Classic Rock state the demos they heard had no vocals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 hours ago, bUCKETHEAD lAND said: Here's what I've got: 1999: Catcher In The Rye [Ft. Brian May] -- [Leaked 28-02-2006] I.R.S -- [Leaked 27-05-2006] There Was A Time [A.K.A T.W.A.T] -- [Leaked 27-05-2006] "Checkmate" [A.K.A Jackie Chan] -- [Short clip leaked 27-05-2006] Atlas Shrugged [ft. Brian May] -- [Does not circulate] Sweet Child O' Mine -- [Part of AFD '99] 2001: Madagascar -- [Leaked 12-11-2017] The Blues [A.K.A Street of Dreams] -- [Leaked 10-06-2018] There Was A Time -- [Leaked 10-06-2018] 2002: I.R.S -- [NO INFO, POSSIBLY FAKE] There Was A Time [Instrumental] -- [NO INFO, POSSIBLY FAKE] Boston Radio Promo -- [Promoting their shows] Albany Radio Promo -- [Promoting their shows] 2002 Promo Video -- [Promoting their shows] 2002 - VMA Rehearsals 5 Second clip without watermark -- [No info when leaked] 44 Second clip with watermark -- [No info when leaked] 2003 - Eddie Trunk I.R.S. [Piazza/Trunk Incident] -- [Leaked 15-02-2006] 2006 - Ron Thal Guitar Overlays Going Down -- [Leaked 16-08-2013] Oh My God -- [Short clip leaked 09-02-2013, full song Leaked 07-06-2018] Silkworms -- [Short clip leaked 09-02-2013, full song Leaked 08-06-2018] Atlas Shrugged -- [Does not circulate] 2006 - Leaked Demos There Was A Time [Short version] -- [Leaked 17-02-2006] There Was A Time [Long version] -- [Leaked 17-02-2006] Better -- [Leaked 22-02-2006] I.R.S [Instrumental] --- [Leaked 10-03-2006] There Was A Time [Short version instrumental] -- [Leaked 15-03-2006] There Was A Time [Long version instrumental] -- [Leaked 14-03-2006] Better [Instrumental] -- [Leaked 08-03-2006] 2007 - Harley Davidson incident Better [Probably the same as Harley Davidson commercial] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007] Better [Harley Davidson commercial] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007] Better [Harley Davidson commercial audio] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007] Paradise City version Paradise City version -- [AUDIO] [Same commercial was made using Paradise City instead, both are included] 2007 - MSL Madagascar -- [Leaked 29-03-2007] Chinese Democracy -- [Leaked 05-05-2007] The Blues [A.K.A Street of Dreams] -- [Leaked 05-05-2007] I.R.S. -- [Leaked 05-05-2007] There Was A Time -- [Leaked 06-05-2007] Rhiad N' The Bedouins [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate] Prostitute [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate] Atlas Shrugged [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate] Silkworms [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate] 2008 - Antiquiet Chinese Democracy [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] I.R.S. [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] Madagascar [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] The Blues [A.K.A Street Of Dreams] [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] There Was A Time [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008] Rhiad And The Bedouins [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #1] Prostitute [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #2] If The World [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #3] Shackler's Revenge [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 14-08-2008 as Chicken Dinner] [Unsure if Shackler's Revenge is from the MSL or Antiquiet batch] 2008 - Best Buy Promos Chinese Democracy, Scraped MISSING There Was A Time, Chinese Democracy, Scraped Riad N' The Bedouins, Chinese Democracy Chinese Democracy Prostitute, Chinese Democracy There Was A Time, Chinese Democracy, Shackler's Revenge Better, Chinese Democracy Prostitute, Chinese Democracy [#2] Scraped Chinese Democracy [#2] Chinese Democracy, Better Chinese Democracy, Better [#2] Chinese Democracy [#3] Chinese Democracy [#4] Chinese Democracy [#5] [Excerpts of finished album versions to promote the realease, each clip is around 15 seconds] 2008 - Body of Lies If The World [ITW plays during the end credits of the 2008 movie "Body of Lies", which was released in october, over a month before Chinese Democracy was released] 2008 - Barefoot Better [Ron Thal's Acoustic] [Outtake from Bumblefoot's 2008 acoustic EP "Barefoot"] 2009 / 2010 - Brain Remixes 01 - Shackler's Revenge [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-26-2018, short clip leaked 09-12-2013] 02 - If The World [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-26-2018, short clip leaked 09-12-2013] 03 - Prostitute [Remix] -- [Leaked 07-05-2012 as Blood In The Water] 04 - Better [Remix] -- [Leaked XX-01-2012 as Better Gone] 05 - This I Love [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-10-2018, short clip leaked 09-02-2013] 06 - Unknown Remix -- [Does not circulate] 07 - If The World [Brain & Melissa] -- [Live] 08 - Sorry [Brain & Melissa] -- [Live] [Brain and Melissa Reese performed at a Houston Rockets halftime show on November 10, 2017, performing remixes of "Sorry" and "If the World" from Chinese Democracy, and a cover of KISS's "Do You Love Me?" from Destroyer.] 2009 - Dj Ashba tracks Better [Dj Ashba remix] -- [Leaked 16-08-2013] Ballad Of Death [Guitar solo] -- [Leaked 26-06-2018] Mi Amor [Guitar solo] -- [Leaked 26-06-2018] 2009 - Stinson / Ron rehearsals Catcher In The Rye ----------- [Does not circulate] Madagascar ------------------- [Does not circulate] Chinese Democracy ------------ [Leaked 05-12-2018] Scraped ---------------------- [Does not circulate] Welcome To The Jungle -------- [Does not circulate] It's So Easy ----------------- [Does not circulate] Mr. Brownstone --------------- [Does not circulate] There Was A Time ------------- [Does not circulate] Richard Solo ----------------- [Does not circulate] Live And Let Die ------------- [Does not circulate] Sorry ------------------------ [Does not circulate] If The World [False start] --- [Does not circulate] If The World #2--------------- [Does not circulate] Unknown Instrumental Jam ----- [Does not circulate] Prostitute ------------------- [Does not circulate] Rocket Queen ----------------- [Does not circulate] My Michelle ------------------ [Does not circulate] Catcher In The Rye #2 -------- [Does not circulate] Street Of Dreams ------------- [Does not circulate] Knockin' On Heaven's Door ---- [Does not circulate] You Could Be Mine ------------ [Does not circulate] I.R.S ------------------------ [Does not circulate] DJ Ashba Solo ---------------- [Does not circulate] Sweet Child O' Mine ---------- [Does not circulate] Unknown Instrumental Jam #2 -- [Does not circulate] This I Love ------------------ [Does not circulate] This I Love #2 --------------- [Does not circulate] November Rain ---------------- [Does not circulate] Bumblefoot Solo -------------- [Does not circulate] Shackler's Revenge ----------- [Does not circulate] Out Ta Get Me ---------------- [Does not circulate] Nightrain -------------------- [Does not circulate] Better ----------------------- [Does not circulate] Patience --------------------- [Does not circulate] Paradise City ---------------- [Does not circulate] [Tommy Stinson and Bumblefoot does vocals on Chinese Democracy, unsure if they do vocals on all songs. Most recent leak] 2009 - Rock Band 2 Chinese Democracy [as DLC] Shackler's Revenge Better [as DLC] Street of Dreams [as DLC] If The World [as DLC] There Was A Time [as DLC] Catcher In The Rye [as DLC] Scraped [as DLC] [Not all tracks! Most likely different mixes, very noticeable on Better. Vocals, guitar, drums etc are isolated] 2010 - Vienna Afterparty "The General" [Phone recording] Silkworms [Does not circulate, plays before "The General"] Still looking to complete some stuff, most of it is finished. Almost all information comes from this. This is *exactly* what I was looking for. Now to secretly fill in the blanks in my collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.