default_ Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 hours ago, ludurigan said: they did it, thing is MTV shot the whole thing with a single cam from the side of the "stage" https://www.rocksceneauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/GnR_2017-06-CBGBs.jpg wow, is this really from MTV? Always tought it was just some random camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 11 hours ago, default_ said: wow, is this really from MTV? Always tought it was just some random camera. i read it's been shot by mtv some "new bands" thing can someone confirm it? but obviously it had nothing to do with unplugged mtv (that was a joke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 The sad thing is i think it was inevitable. Maybe they could have worked on a few more albums and put them out but with the differences in opinion in the direction the band should go I think ultimately the albums would have been kind of a mass and the band would have broken up anyway. If they did end up putting out a few more albums and just broke up one day I think Axl would have continued as a solo artist instead of with the GnR name and I'm not sure if Slash would have the legendary status he has today either... Not that he doesn't deserve it but he kind of faded away when Snakepit 2 was out... VR brought him to a younger and different audience and really cemented that legendary status he now has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 We're like children of divorced couples, whining, "Oh, would all have been better if mom and dad didn't break up? I wish they hadn't." No, you stupid fuck. If they hadn't gone their separate ways they would have just continued fighting and fighting like they used to do all the time and you'd feel awful up in your room thinking it was all your fault, and your dad would have started fucking that slag from work in frustration and your mom would just be crying all the time and it would all just be horrible, horrible, horrible. That's what would have happened. Now, dad got to go out and party a bit more and grow up and mom got to test out arts class and "realize herself", and the passion might not be there anymore but at least they are back together and there is no more fighting and you don't have to choose between them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 The question sort of amounts to 'what would GnR be if they weren't who they are?', which is a bit of a mind-bender for a tuesday morning. They'd be Aunt Gladys and The Drippling Colostomies, LA's newest hit sensation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 11 hours ago, Len Cnut said: They'd be Aunt Gladys and The Drippling Colostomies, LA's newest hit sensation! That actually sounds more exciting than the "cashing our retirement check" crew we have now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 hours ago, RONIN said: That actually sounds more exciting than the "cashing our retirement check" crew we have now Yes we have gone from the most dangerous band to the most gangerous retirement band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 They'd have become the next Rolling Stones. I've been saying that since the late 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1: 1996- hard rock album and touring stadiums. Possibly #1 songs 2: 2000 - industrial album that would be awesome 3: 2001 more touring 4: 2002 back to the roots rock album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Nintari said: They'd have become the next Rolling Stones. I've been saying that since the late 90's. It fits so well.. but I think you were right. It’s unfolding before us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, megaguns1982 said: It fits so well.. but I think you were right. It’s unfolding before us I am sure you are referring to the Brand and marketing aspect but other than that Guns aren't even a pimple on The Stones ass as far as productivity, influence and longevity go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: I am sure you are referring to the Brand and marketing aspect but other than that Guns aren't even a pimple on The Stones ass as far as productivity, influence and longevity go. I respectfully disagree with a lot of your opinions but we're on the same page here. Say what you will about the Stones cashing in on nostalgia but at least they've steadily given their fans material throughout their career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericstacey Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I do think they would have needed to take a break for a while-having released the Illusion albums and TSI?, the public kind of needed a break from Guns n Roses. It would have been interesting to see if they would have done the Woodstock concerts (I think Slash said they turned down a Woodstock 94 offer), or the Lollapalooza tour-I'm guessing they would have eventually been asked. they probably would have been in the Bon Jovi/Motley/Metallica range of bands that would easily fill an arena-would have been interesting to see if they could have had another massive hit like Bon Jovi did with It's My Life in 2000-something that Chinese Democracy sorely lacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/7/2019 at 3:52 PM, Oldest Goat said: Guns N' Roses>Rolling Stones Bollocks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: Guns N' Roses have more great songs than the Stones despite having a much smaller catalogue. Gimme Shelter Sympathy for the Devil Paint it Black Wild Horses Miss You Angie Brown Sugar Can't you Hear Me Knocking Dead Flowers (I Can't Get No)Satisfaction Salt of the Earth You Can't Always Get What You Want That's only 12 'great' Rolling Stones songs I can think of, which is less than I can think of for GNR. Here's 12 great GNR songs(I could list more) for comparison: Coma Patience Locomotive Don't Cry(alt) Civil War Estranged The Garden Rocket Queen Paradise City Welcome To The Jungle Pretty Tied Up Sweet Child'O Mine If you're able to list another 12 great Stones songs and I'll respond with 12 more great and better GNR songs. I can list probably about fifty-seventy ''great Stones songs''!! I mean you've left off the entire early era for a start apart from ''Paint it Black'' and ''Satisfaction'' so no ''Last Time'', no ''Out Out Time'', no ''19th Nervous Breakdown'', no ''Get off of my Cloud'', no ''Ruby Tuesday'' etc. Further, you have no ''Street Fighting Man''. You have no ''Jack Flash'' and no ''Honky Tonk Woman''. I don't see ''Tumbling Dice'' either - in fact I don't see anything from Exile, a thorough masterpiece. You have also included only one song from the Ron Wood era which certainly has more great songs than ''Miss You''. And that is without mentioning deep cuts! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said: I'll accept Ruby Tuesday and Jack Flash and Get off of my Cloud and Fool to Cry and Waiting on a Friend. Nightrain 14 Years Breakdown It's So Easy My Michelle Used To Love Her Out Ta Get Me Prostitute Think About You You're Crazy Madagascar November Rain You genuinely don't see GNR's songs are better quality? For Guns to equal the Stones, Guns would've had to put out at least another eight Appetites. Really Guns had one great album if we are all going to be honest, Appetite. The Stones had at least eight masterpieces, and a whole host of near-masterpieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 What? This can only mean that musical preferences are subjective! Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 6 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: For Guns to equal the Stones, Guns would've had to put out at least another eight Appetites. Really Guns had one great album if we are all going to be honest, Appetite. The Stones had at least eight masterpieces, and a whole host of near-masterpieces. Would you agree on these as the Stones' masterpieces: Out of Our Heads Aftermath Between the Buttons Beggar's Banquet Let it Bleed Sticky Fingers Exile Some Girls Tattoo YouNear-Great: Satanic Majesties Goat's Head Soup It's Only Rock N' Roll Steel Wheels Undercover Emotional Rescue I would argue that Lies is a near masterpiece, and UYI I isn't a classic album, but its collection of songs equal AFD (despite being very different albums). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Oldest Goat said: Guns N' Roses have more great songs than the Stones despite having a much smaller catalogue. Gimme Shelter Sympathy for the Devil Paint it Black Wild Horses Miss You Angie Brown Sugar Can't you Hear Me Knocking Dead Flowers (I Can't Get No)Satisfaction Salt of the Earth You Can't Always Get What You Want That's only 12 'great' Rolling Stones songs I can think of, which is less than I can think of for GNR. Here's 12 great GNR songs(I could list more) for comparison: You left out about 100 great Stones songs.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) If Guns had continued on with UYI touring lineup, they would have covered and maybe even recorded at minimum 10 more Stones songs by now. Edited February 10, 2019 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 6 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: The Stones had at least eight masterpieces, and a whole host of near-masterpieces. This string of consecutive albums will never be touched Beggar's Banquet Let It Bleed Sticky Fingers Exile on Maine St (Double Album) Goats Head Soup It's Only Rock N' Roll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Answering a couple of replies here, it is a difficult decision because I have my own personal quirks regarding the Stones discography. I probably rate Goats Head Soup higher than the general consensus and Some Girls a tad lower - I love Some Girls, just that I'd probably rank it behind Black and Blue. And I have never been a Between the Buttons acolyte (you should talk to Len). I'm probably a bit kinder on their post-Wyman work than most also. And Blue & Lonesome was staggeringly good but I think most people felt that. Edited February 11, 2019 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 If they had never broken up they’d probably be pretty boring by now. Maybe something similar to bon jovi or pearl jam. Still playing decent sized arenas but mainly nostalgia based........ hang on a minute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnrcane Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Most likely they would have released a disappointing album in the late 90's, toured it to dwindling crowds and then broken up after the tour. There would be no reunion because nobody would have been wanting it since they would have ended on a low note. I just think that they were so dysfunctional after the UYI tour that there is a very low chance they could have created a good album of GNR music. Even if Izzy came back to write/record, he wasn't really working WITH the band on UYI. Plus, there's a good chance that at least Slash would be dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 10.2.2019 at 1:19 PM, DieselDaisy said: The Stones had at least eight masterpieces, and a whole host of near-masterpieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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