The Holographic Universe Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I cannot foresee another album such Led Zeppelin IV, Dark Side of the Moon, Back in Black, A Stones album(insert here), Metallica’s Black album, etc, etc. Does nay poster here believe such an album will exist again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) I am shocked that Alabama Shakes Sound and Colour didnt get embraced in the way those classic albums are. Its as if every time someone convinces themselves that Greta Van Fleet is amazing, a piece of the heart of rock n' roll dies. I think just the notion of consuming music by the album is rare these days and thats one issue preventing a great album. Hopefully it'll come back around. Digital is somewhat eroding the album experience but just last year in Canada an Instagram Poet, Rupi Kaur, released a best selling poetry book (physical copy). Poetry books are never bestsellers, let alone when the artists works are available for free on Instagram. Or Drake is very focused on an album experience in Digital. Someone will figure it out. Another issue s talent. I have this suspicion that in the instability of the record label scene a lot of those who would be this generations best rockers are all staff writers in Nashville. Or how we as Guns fans lost Brain to video game scoring. Page and Jones met doing session work. So theres hope! Edited February 3, 2019 by soon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said: I cannot foresee another album such Led Zeppelin IV, Dark Side of the Moon, Back in Black, A Stones album(insert here), Metallica’s Black album, etc, etc. Does nay poster here believe such an album will exist again? There won't be because rock will never be where it was before. Commercially, but especially culturally. And music in general has changed too much as well. With the rise of the internet, youtube, digital streaming etc, the significance of the album has decreased a lot. I really hate that, because I'm an album-fan, but that's the way it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Probably not but thats OK, everything has its day, doesn’t it? When was the last great Jazz album? Or blues album? Nevermind rock, i think hip hops on the decline too. Hip Hop where rock was in the mid 70s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 My band will release an album this year, so yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Every dog has his day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anguyen92 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Honestly, I do not care if another rock album ever breaks through the mainstream like the Black Album or Back in Black or Led Zeppelin IV. As long as there's good bands out there making solid music that I can enjoy and that they are able to play shows in Southern California on a regular basis at a reasonable ticket price, that's all I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) There is a lot of classics post 2000s also Muse - Origin of symmetry Steven Wilson - Hand.cannot.erase Steven Wilson - Raven that refused to sing Porcupine Tree - Deadwing GNR - Chinese democracy Marillion - Marbles Tool - Lateralus Dream Theater - Six degrees of inner turbulence + + + David Bowie - Blackstar Edited February 12, 2019 by betterman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 There are a TON of GREAT albums out there, but I think the system is just too broken for any of them to become huge or classics, so to speak. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I'd say from 2010 until now only To Pimp A Butterfly is a truly classic album. I don't think that can happen that much anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Probably not. You can blame it on rock's dwindling popularity but part of the problem too is that a large portion of rock fans won't let go of the past. There's still quality music out there, people just need to open their minds and look a little harder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I have a few more thoughts... One of the problems with modern rock is that it mostly sounds the same. Almost every song that has gotten airplay since about 2014 or so has had similar vocal melodies in the same key, same song structure, similar chord progression, and similar lyrical content. The bands that have had the most success in the modern era have evolved their sound and built their fanbase with every release. Bands like Avenged Sevenfold, Halestorm, Ghost, Slipknot, Alter Bridge, Linkin Park, Foo Fighters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The fact that the Foo Fighters are the biggest rock band around pretty much says it all, doesn't it? Or the fact that Imagine Dragons are considered a rock band... Great rock albums still get released, but you're probably not gonna hear them on the radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: Great rock albums still get released, but you're probably not gonna hear them on the radio. To be fair you hardly heard em on the radio even in their heyday, in this country it took until 1967 til you even had rock music on the radio properly. And even after that if anything was vaguely contentious it ended up getting the chop. Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds was banned for fuckssake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) On 12-2-2019 at 10:31 AM, betterman said: There is a lot of classics post 2000s also Muse - Origin of symmetry Steven Wilson - Hand.cannot.erase Steven Wilson - Raven that refused to sing Porcupine Tree - Deadwing GNR - Chinese democracy Marillion - Marbles Tool - Lateralus Dream Theater - Six degrees of inner turbulence + + + David Bowie - Blackstar None of those are classics. You're mistaking personal taste for public opinion. The common music fan wouldn't even be able to tell you which artists made those albums. The only one from that list that MIGHT come close is Muse. Edited February 15, 2019 by username Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Off the top of my head, the only album from the 2000's that might be considered a classic is Stadium Arcadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) I wonder what makes a classic. Its getting to the point now where a lot of bands who I personally think are a load of shit and even at their peak were never considered like...the dogs bollocks, yet now, by virtue of longevity, are becoming so. I think Post Pop Depression by Iggy Pop has all the hallmarks of a classic but I can't really claim it to be one, perhaps it will eventually, I don't know. And there'd degrees of it, isn't there? In certain punk circles there are albums considered classics that your mainstream audiences won't have heard of. I mean think of all the legendary bands out there, bands with stories so compelling that movies are made about em, like The Germs for example, your average person probably couldn't name a Germs song let alone an album yet to a certain demographic they are as classic as it gets. Or a band like Bad Brains perhaps, Blank Generation by Richard Hell and The Voidoids is a classic to me, I wager it isn't for the vast majority though...or an album like Cut by The Slits. Perhaps I'm veering too far outside of the 'rock' parameters of the thread titles question with these examples though. Noel Gallaghers High Flying Birds first album, I think, will some day be considered a classic. Sold well, critically acclaimed, loved by the fans...thats as good a shout as any. Blue and Lonesome by The Stones is another, especially if its their last album, a bunch of nattily recording blues covers from their roots would be a wonderful curtain call. Edited February 15, 2019 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 The next GNR album will be it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 when is the Tool album out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 10:12 AM, Gordon Comstock said: Off the top of my head, the only album from the 2000's that might be considered a classic is Stadium Arcadium. 100% agree. On 2/15/2019 at 11:07 AM, Len Cnut said: I wonder what makes a classic. Its getting to the point now where a lot of bands who I personally think are a load of shit and even at their peak were never considered like...the dogs bollocks, yet now, by virtue of longevity, are becoming so. I think Post Pop Depression by Iggy Pop has all the hallmarks of a classic but I can't really claim it to be one, perhaps it will eventually, I don't know. And there'd degrees of it, isn't there? In certain punk circles there are albums considered classics that your mainstream audiences won't have heard of. I mean think of all the legendary bands out there, bands with stories so compelling that movies are made about em, like The Germs for example, your average person probably couldn't name a Germs song let alone an album yet to a certain demographic they are as classic as it gets. Or a band like Bad Brains perhaps, Blank Generation by Richard Hell and The Voidoids is a classic to me, I wager it isn't for the vast majority though...or an album like Cut by The Slits. Perhaps I'm veering too far outside of the 'rock' parameters of the thread titles question with these examples though. Noel Gallaghers High Flying Birds first album, I think, will some day be considered a classic. Sold well, critically acclaimed, loved by the fans...thats as good a shout as any. Blue and Lonesome by The Stones is another, especially if its their last album, a bunch of nattily recording blues covers from their roots would be a wonderful curtain call. Classic is an album that transcends the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Quote Classic is an album that transcends the genre. Bit vague as definitions go. There are plenty of classics that embody a genre. I wouldn't say Elvises debut transcends the genre but its still a classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Like it or not, but it's the decade of female pop singers. Classic albums are made by them nowadays. Lady Gaga - The Fame (2008) Lady Gaga - Born this Way (2011) Ariana Grande - My Everything (2014) Adele - 25 (2015) Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman (2016) Edited March 11, 2019 by Sosso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Sosso said: Like it or not, but it's the decade of female pop singers. Classic albums are made by them nowadays. Lady Gaga - The Fame (2008) Lady Gaga - Born this Way (2011) Ariana Grande - My Everything (2014) Adele - 25 (2015) Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman (2016) Thank God the fuckin' decades nearly over then cuz those are fuckin' shite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Thank God the fuckin' decades nearly over then cuz those are fuckin' shite Whatever your opinion is, man, its not mine. Thank God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sosso said: Whatever your opinion is, man, its not mine. Thank God. Sorry fella, I didn't mean to insult your taste, from your post I couldn't tell whether you liked em or just objectively thought they were talented and good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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