Sosso Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) I have designed a timeline of the early line-ups of Guns N' Roses and L. A. Guns and hope that I got it right. I would also include Hollywood Rose and Black Sheep. Any kind of help would be appreciated. Pyrrhus (1983) Michael Jagosz - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Dani Tull - bass guitar Rob Gardner - drums Pyrrhus/L. A. Guns (1983 - 1984) Michael Jagosz - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Ole Beich - bass guitar Rob Gardner - drums L. A. Guns (1984) Axl Rose - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Ole Beich - bass guitar Rob Gardner - drums Road Crew (1984) Slash - lead guitar Duff Mckagan - bass guitar, vocals Steven Adler - drums L. A. Guns (1984 - March 1985) Michael Jagosz - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Ole Beich - bass guitar Rob Gardner - drums Guns N' Roses (March 1985) Axl Rose - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Izzy Stranded - rhythm guitar Ole Beich - bass guitar Rob Gardner - drums L. A. Guns (March 1985 - June 1985) Paul Black - lead vocals Robert Stoddart - lead guitar Mick Cripps - bass guitar Nicky Alexander - drums Guns N' Roses (March - May 1985) Axl Rose - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Izzy Stranded - rhythm guitar Duff McKagan - bass guitar Rob Gardner - drums Guns N' Roses (May 1985 - June 1985) Axl Rose - lead vocals Slash - lead guitar Izzy Stranded - rhythm guitar Duff McKagan - bass guitar Rob Gardner - drums Guns N' Roses (June 1985 - 1990) Axl Rose - lead vocals Slash - lead guitar Izzy Stranded/Stradlin - rhythm guitar Duff McKagan - bass guitar Steven Adler - drums L. A. Guns (June 1985 - early 1987) Paul Black - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Robert Stoddard - rhythm guitar Mick Cripps - bass guitar Nicky Alexander - drums L. A. Guns (early 1987 - late 1987) Phil Lewis - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Mick Cripps - rhythm guitar Kelly Nickels - bass guitar Nicky Alexander - drums L. A. Guns (late 1987 - January 1992) Phil Lewis - lead vocals Tracii Guns - lead guitar Mick Cripps - rhythm guitar Kelly Nickels - bass guitar Steve Riley - drums Guns N' Roses (1990 - 1991) Axl Rose - lead vocals Slash - lead guitar Izzy Stradlin - rhythm guitar Duff McKagan - bass guitar Matt Sorum - drums Dizzy Reed - keyboard Edited February 20, 2019 by Sosso 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Izzy Stranded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jamillos said: Izzy Stranded? He changed it from Stranded to Stradlin during the AfD years Edited February 10, 2019 by Sosso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Was Duff in Road Crew briefly, with Slash and Adler? I dont know if that would matter for this list anyways though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, soon said: Was Duff in Road Crew briefly, with Slash and Adler? I dont know if that would matter for this list anyways though? Of course! All of the members were recruited for the classic line-up of GN'R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I think you should also include Rapidfire and AXL/Rose/Hollywood Rose lineups, and also some other bands (London? Road Crew?) because they also match into this era and it all needs to be summarized from the bigger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 btw, I tried something similar here http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?pid=288524#p288524 but I'm not really sure if I got it all correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Curious why you would include LA guns, other than the original incarnation they have nothing to do with GN'R. What about other bands like London, Rapidfie and such? I think that's more relevant to the history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, 31illusions said: Curious why you would include LA guns, other than the original incarnation they have nothing to do with GN'R. What about other bands like London, Rapidfie and such? I think that's more relevant to the history. simply because "the scene" was quite big back then, with people fluctuating between bands quite frequently. the lineup changes are quite relevant - at least if some ex-GNR member was in there. of course, I agree with you that some bands are more relevant, as I already stated above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, zombux said: simply because "the scene" was quite big back then, with people fluctuating between bands quite frequently. the lineup changes are quite relevant - Sure, considering how the band formed but after the AFD5 assembled, LA Guns have no relevance to GN'R. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, 31illusions said: Curious why you would include LA guns, other than the original incarnation they have nothing to do with GN'R. What about other bands like London, Rapidfie and such? I think that's more relevant to the history. I just wanted to demonstrate how the classic line-ups of both bands came together (speaking of the AfD, UYI and Hollywood Vampires line-ups). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Sosso said: He changed it from Stranded to Stradlin during the AfD years I either had no idea or had forgotten. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, zombux said: btw, I tried something similar here http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?pid=288524#p288524 but I'm not really sure if I got it all correctly so Mike hammernik also moved from Lafayette to LA ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, donny said: so Mike hammernik also moved from Lafayette to LA ? my error there probably. he's not listed in the Lafayette lineup. my guess is he was LA local, but it's hard to find any meaningful information about musicians like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 what is the relevance of listing bands that do not include at least one of the Guns n' Roses guys? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Axl had mentioned some names from the "AXL" band in Lafayette. I guess there was no "steady" lineup: “Axl" came along as name of band, cuz my friend used to write down... My friend Dave Lank wrote down names of bands, him and Mike Staggs and Roger Miley. And we always thought of names of bands and he had this page, like hundreds of names he thought of for names of bands. One day they called me up and they said, "We got a name for a band, 'Axl'". And, like, I don't know, the world was coming down on me in my house and it's, like, I answered the phone and I was like, "What do you want?" "We got a name for a band, 'Axl'. How should we spell it?" And I was like, "A-X-L". Click (laughs). http://www.a-4-d.com/t3596-1989-07-dd-mtv-interview-clips-axl Mike Staggs is credited for additional guitar on Ain't It Fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezosk Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Wasnt also there a band called AXL? Posted in the same time as Blackstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ezosk said: Wasnt also there a band called AXL? Yes, in Lafayette. And then in L.A., Hollywood Rose was called AXL at first, and then "Rose". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ludurigan said: what is the relevance of listing bands that do not include at least one of the Guns n' Roses guys? all the listed lineups have at least one (ex-)GNR member, except for some periods where he was out and then in again Edited February 10, 2019 by zombux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 hours ago, zombux said: all the listed lineups have at least one (ex-)GNR member, except for some periods where he was out and then in again i disagree Tracii Guns, Ole Beich and Rob Gardner were in "guns n roses" for 2 seconds unless there is some evidence proving otherwise, they never wrote a song with/for/as GNR, never recorded a song with/for/as GNR, and played very few shows with/for/as GNR not taking anything from them as people or players, but their contribution to Guns n Roses is absolutely irrelevant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Did Road Crew ever record something? I'd love to hear Duff, Slash, and Steven 😁😁😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billly B Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 11 hours ago, 31illusions said: Curious why you would include LA guns, other than the original incarnation they have nothing to do with GN'R. What about other bands like London, Rapidfie and such? I think that's more relevant to the history. Because Guns N' Roses was originally a combination of Hollywood Rose and LA Guns and the other connections with the other bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Billly B said: Because Guns N' Roses was originally a combination of Hollywood Rose and LA Guns and the other connections with the other bands. I mean, am I speaking Spanish here people? Read what I previously posted below. Quote "after the AFD5 assembled, LA Guns have no relevance to GN'R." PERIOD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, 31illusions said: I mean, am I speaking Spanish here people? Read what I previously posted below. PERIOD. I agree with you. Tracii Guns was in Guns N' Roses for a hot minute, and other than using his 'name', he has nothing to do with the band after his departure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billly B Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, 31illusions said: I mean, am I speaking Spanish here people? Read what I previously posted below. PERIOD. No it does because it was the history of the Band that risen from other bands. Without a point of reference in history, there will be a lack of understanding. It is like saying Hitler is bad because he started the war. It doesn't cover how he came to power and other things like the situation that created the conditions for war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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