sidman69 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Today we take a look at the time that Doug Goldstein hired spies to keep an eye on Slash and Axl back in the good old days 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Thanks for posting these videos. There's so much crazy stuff that's happened with this band that I ever never knew or (more likely) eventually forgot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TeeJay410 Posted February 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2019 It’s hard not to imagine that GnR might have stayed together if every manager they had wasn’t a thundering imbecile. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 why is it this band and its previous members are just plain wacko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MildlyArtistic Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 6 hours ago, TeeJay410 said: It’s hard not to imagine that GnR might have stayed together if every manager they had wasn’t a thundering imbecile. GNR's past (and current) management history is the wildest thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnrcane Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 hours ago, TeeJay410 said: It’s hard not to imagine that GnR might have stayed together if every manager they had wasn’t a thundering imbecile. According to the video, it was the "imbecile" manager that got Axl to perform the show and get Slash to "apologize" on stage for being a junkie so that Axl would perform and stay in the band with him. If not for Goldstein, they might have broken up before UYI was released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MildlyArtistic Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gnrcane said: According to the video, it was the "imbecile" manager that got Axl to perform the show and get Slash to "apologize" on stage for being a junkie so that Axl would perform and stay in the band with him. If not for Goldstein, they might have broken up before UYI was released. Thanks to Goldstein, they broke up afterwards instead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Gnrcane said: According to the video, it was the "imbecile" manager that got Axl to perform the show and get Slash to "apologize" on stage for being a junkie so that Axl would perform and stay in the band with him. If not for Goldstein, they might have broken up before UYI was released. Because if we know anything about effective management and leadership, it is all about forcing others to capitulate to the tantrums of a single person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, Gnrcane said: According to the video, it was the "imbecile" manager that got Axl to perform the show and get Slash to "apologize" on stage for being a junkie so that Axl would perform and stay in the band with him. If not for Goldstein, they might have broken up before UYI was released. Nah i trust izzy would have sorted it out with a phonecall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnrcane Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Sydney Fan said: Nah i trust izzy would have sorted it out with a phonecall. Just like he sorted out the issues in 1991 when he quit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 20 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: why is it this band and its previous members are just plain wacko But what does that say about us, the fans? After I saw your post, it made me think about all the crazy shit we have willingly put up with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNRS Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 13-2-2019 at 12:26 PM, MildlyArtistic said: Thanks to Goldstein, they broke up afterwards instead. Yeah, it's Goldstein. Not Yoda, Axl's antics, the lateness, the constant boozing and drugs but the manager who couldn't keep that sane bunch of people together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Its not a coincidence they were always surrounded by insane people. Crazy attracts crazy. They were a mixture of uneducated trash and insanity (mainly Axl). Throw in all the money and popularity, and its no wonder they aquired so many freaks along the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: Its not a coincidence they were always surrounded by insane people. Crazy attracts crazy. They were a mixture of uneducated trash and insanity (mainly Axl). Throw in all the money and popularity, and its no wonder they aquired so many freaks along the way For six years now, Slash has been a bandleader and, this time, there are fewer of the hangers-on who attached themselves to Guns and Velvet Revolver. “When Axl and I first got back together again and started talking about the issues that we had, the origins of them really went out to other people,” he says. “It wasn’t just because we were passing the buck – there were other entities involved that created a lot of havoc.” https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/feb/14/slash-greatest-hits-guns-n-roses-velvet-revolver-bob-dylan-lemmy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgnr Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, janrichmond said: this time, there are fewer of the hangers-on who attached themselves to Guns Not sure how much truth is in there. At least on Axl's part. He still has the masseuse, the personal trainer, 3 road managers, his personal assistants and all the well known hangers-on going to a lot of shows. Edited February 14, 2019 by dgnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, dgnr said: Not sure how much truth is in there. At least on Axl's part. He still has the masseuse, the personal trainer, 3 road managers, his personal assistants and all the well known hangers-on going to a lot of shows. True but Duff and Slash don't have to deal with them (or pay for them) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, janrichmond said: For six years now, Slash has been a bandleader and, this time, there are fewer of the hangers-on who attached themselves to Guns and Velvet Revolver. “When Axl and I first got back together again and started talking about the issues that we had, the origins of them really went out to other people,” he says. “It wasn’t just because we were passing the buck – there were other entities involved that created a lot of havoc.” https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/feb/14/slash-greatest-hits-guns-n-roses-velvet-revolver-bob-dylan-lemmy And now all we have to do is wait that Slash kicks the hangers-on/other leeches out, kicks Axl's ass to the studio and Voila! A miracle! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Who the hell would want a masseuse haha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, Oldest Goat said: You! I hate all that poncified crap. I won some competition last year to a health spa type place and it was awful, full of homosexual millionaires walking around in bathrobes, a bar with poncy cocktails. ''Back, sack and crack''. Those aren't blokes who are into that type of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: Haven't you ever had a deep tissue massage or acupuncture or anything? It's good to be pampered now and then lol. There is more chance of Rose releasing an album than there is me going down any of that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: I hate all that poncified crap. I won some competition last year to a health spa type place and it was awful, full of homosexual millionaires walking around in bathrobes, a bar with poncy cocktails. ''Back, sack and crack''. Those aren't blokes who are into that type of thing. Ill bet DD they probably had wives and kids as a diversion from their closet homesexuality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, dgnr said: Not sure how much truth is in there. At least on Axl's part. He still has the masseuse, the personal trainer, 3 road managers, his personal assistants and all the well known hangers-on going to a lot of shows. I don't really consider those people that Axl actually hired as "hangers on". If they're indeed legitimately there to do a job. It's Axl's choice that they're involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, lame ass security said: I don't really consider those people that Axl actually hired as "hangers on". If they're indeed legitimately there to do a job. It's Axl's choice that they're involved. The difference is back in the illusion days the whole band paid for it, now axl pays for it himself. Im sure its a relief now for slash. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 hours ago, janrichmond said: For six years now, Slash has been a bandleader and, this time, there are fewer of the hangers-on who attached themselves to Guns and Velvet Revolver. “When Axl and I first got back together again and started talking about the issues that we had, the origins of them really went out to other people,” he says. “It wasn’t just because we were passing the buck – there were other entities involved that created a lot of havoc.” https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/feb/14/slash-greatest-hits-guns-n-roses-velvet-revolver-bob-dylan-lemmy Interesting interview, i'm like this part that Slash compare with Lennon, very funny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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