RONIN Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Love KOHD from this show. Bucket sounds amazing on the solos. HOB/RIR3 Axl > Cornrow Axl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Never got to watch it before it was taken down 😰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loosecannon3 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2019-02-22 at 1:09 PM, lost un the jungle said: Hi Andrew, I just read your post and bacause of that I watched the entire concert of HOB 2000. It was a blast! in the end Axl slams the mic and then he comes back and says "who caught that mic better keep it", just a shame you couldn't grab it. Thanks for your post. Cesar from Argentina. Oh yeah it was made so much worse when I watched the video and then he said that. lol Glad my post got you to watch the concert though. My post also got me to watch it. Fun memories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXL_N_DIZZY Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 8:57 PM, Ericstacey said: I went to 2 shows in 2002-it was different because you thought a bunch of new material was coming. And soon. I think it was my favorite time to be a fan of the band-91-93 was great also. Yep. Saw them in ‘02 too. It was exciting for the reason you raise- but once they started catching crap for the ‘02 VMAs, and Vancouver almost all of the good vibes with the general public were suddenly gone, and everything became foreboding IMHO. I remember the Monday after the Philly riot weekend- my boss- who had Clear Channel (CC) contacts- basically telling me Guns was over, and CC would break Axl’s “legs” (legally & financially) before he ever took a stage again. Bleak days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Ugh, 02. I’ve told this story too many times. I had 2nd row tickets to the show in South Carolina. It would have been my first time seeing GNR and first time seeing an Appetite 5 member period. My brother invited me to the MSG show but as I was living in North Carolina at the time I couldn’t make it. Long story short after the riot GNR and the venues were saying the shows were on but Live Nation said it was off. I called the venue and said please don’t make me drive 6 hours for this if it isn’t going to happen. Finally the woman on the phone felt sorry for me and said “all I can tell you is the band’s hotel reservations have been canceled”. I said thank you and cancelled my plans. The following years were miserable as I thought for sure the band was done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loosecannon3 Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 The Vegas concert was cool and I’m happy I saw it but seeing it again on YouTube, Axls voice was clearly not what it was back in 1993. The rasp is totally not as powerful as what it was back then. Only in 2010 and with Axl/DC have we seen something similar. Do we think something happened to his voice or it truly is a case of a guy that went balls to the wall for 8 years (1985-1993) and who took a long break and never got it back to what it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, loosecannon3 said: The Vegas concert was cool and I’m happy I saw it but seeing it again on YouTube, Axls voice was clearly not what it was back in 1993. The rasp is totally not as powerful as what it was back then. Only in 2010 and with Axl/DC have we seen something similar. Do we think something happened to his voice or it truly is a case of a guy that went balls to the wall for 8 years (1985-1993) and who took a long break and never got it back to what it was? He wasn't trying to sound like his UYI-era self though. It was a deliberate, new approach (if what he said in the China Exchange interview is to be believed). If anything, he sounds most similar to his pre-Appetite self, his voice at the HOB show resembles his '86 voice at parts IMO. It's high-pitched and clean but he could clearly sing with an edge when he wanted to. I think the UYI tour absolutely damaged his voice and his voice in '01-02 was both a result of that damage, and a conscious effort to avoid furthering that damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester 524 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 6:16 AM, RussTCB said: I'm not saying Axl's a saint, but in this case I'm sure the dude has no idea all of this has gone on. Also, it's worth noting that I wasn't saying TB are the psychos. I got to agree with this. I mean he supposedly had tours booked without his knowledge, so this would seem to be something he wouldn't be told about. I mean, I doubt he is trying to download or trade his old shows so he probably would know unless one if his henchmen told him. didn't someone talk to Del James about this? I thought maybe Ms Metal did? wouldn't Del say something to Axl? if I go to Duffs show in Philly in May I'll try to meet him after the show and ask him directly. doubt he will answer me, but who knows? has anyone on this board met a band member recently and asked them about this stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: He wasn't trying to sound like his UYI-era self though. It was a deliberate, new approach (if what he said in the China Exchange interview is to be believed). If anything, he sounds most similar to his pre-Appetite self, his voice at the HOB show resembles his '86 voice at parts IMO. It's high-pitched and clean but he could clearly sing with an edge when he wanted to. I think the UYI tour absolutely damaged his voice and his voice in '01-02 was both a result of that damage, and a conscious effort to avoid furthering that damage. So axl hadnt sung at all between the last show in 93 to the HOB gig?. and he didnt rehearse prior to the gig?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonKinight Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 58 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: So axl hadnt sung at all between the last show in 93 to the HOB gig?. and he didnt rehearse prior to the gig?. he sung only at studio - 97 - 99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, NeonKinight said: he sung only at studio - 97 - 99. And that impromptu rendition of Dead Flowers with Gilby in '99: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericstacey Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 16 hours ago, AXL_N_DIZZY said: Yep. Saw them in ‘02 too. It was exciting for the reason you raise- but once they started catching crap for the ‘02 VMAs, and Vancouver almost all of the good vibes with the general public were suddenly gone, and everything became foreboding IMHO. I remember the Monday after the Philly riot weekend- my boss- who had Clear Channel (CC) contacts- basically telling me Guns was over, and CC would break Axl’s “legs” (legally & financially) before he ever took a stage again. Bleak days... I loved the 2002 Vma's, but I can understand at the same time people watching it and thinking "wtf is this". I always felt things were never right after Philly and the long break until 2006. I liked the lineup, but I went with my older brother to a 2002 concert, who said it "was good, but its just not the same without Slash and Duff". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 11 hours ago, loosecannon3 said: The Vegas concert was cool and I’m happy I saw it but seeing it again on YouTube, Axls voice was clearly not what it was back in 1993. The rasp is totally not as powerful as what it was back then. Only in 2010 and with Axl/DC have we seen something similar. Do we think something happened to his voice or it truly is a case of a guy that went balls to the wall for 8 years (1985-1993) and who took a long break and never got it back to what it was? Listen Dead Flowers with Gilby the same year some months before (with rasp) and then suddenly he has a clear voice for HOB. This is because he had a throat surgery. I read it somewhere and evidence seems to be there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, lost un the jungle said: Listen Dead Flowers with Gilby the same year some months before (with rasp) and then suddenly he has a clear voice for HOB. This is because he had a throat surgery. I read it somewhere and evidence seems to be there... I don't think that live performance of Dead Flowers has ever been leaked/released? The only Axl + Gilby Dead Flowers I know of is the studio version from Pawnshop Guitars back in '94. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Amir said: I don't think that live performance of Dead Flowers has ever been leaked/released? The only Axl + Gilby Dead Flowers I know of is the studio version from Pawnshop Guitars back in '94. There is audio, search in youtube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 There's only the studio track from Gilby's 1994 album. No audio or video of Axl at Gilby's show exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 40 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said: There's only the studio track from Gilby's 1994 album. No audio or video of Axl at Gilby's show exists. Fresh from the oven my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_k Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Thats the studio version 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, brad_k said: Thats the studio version you're right, sorry, I just found the mp3 but i can't share it here at the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Axl has performed it many times over the years, back in the day and even more recently. But dude. The audio of that Gilby show does NOT exist. Whatever mp3 you have, I can assure you, it's not from this performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, estrangedtwat said: Axl has performed it many times over the years, back in the day and even more recently. But dude. The audio of that Gilby show does NOT exist. Whatever mp3 you have, I can assure you, it's not from this performance. Trust me, it exists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 41 minutes ago, NeonKinight said: hmmmm...that's actually from 22th June, 2000. Somewhere, in someone's hands. Just like 1985's gigs Soundboard. no guys, just make some effort searching, it takes no more than 5 minutes. But, if in your mind you are conviced it does not exist, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, lost un the jungle said: Trust me, it exists OK, Mr. Twenty Eight Posts. I guess you have photos of Bigfoot and Elvis too, but you can't share them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said: OK, Mr. Twenty Eight Posts. I guess you have photos of Bigfoot and Elvis too, but you can't share them? send me a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 .......... Well. This is interesting. This is very very interesting. If this is a fake, it's the most convincing fake I've ever heard. If it's real, how the fuck did some random dude end up with it in 2019 when it's been common knowledge for almost 20 years that were no circulating copies?? Either way, I've never heard this before, so I'm impressed as fuck. Damn. Didn't think I could be surprised anymore. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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