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Was any Guns album ever made of NEWnew stuff? I swear every single album was always OLDnew stuff, cant see why it would be different now

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I don’t care what it is, as long as it music I haven’t heard before and not remixed stuff...... oh and it has to sound good.

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"But did he come up with the guitar/bass parts and leading melodies on CD? Did he tell Bucket, "Hey, play something that sounds like "? Does he just show up with a set of lyrics and give the musicians a general direction? "

If a axl coukd do this we would have gotten the album from the 94 to 96 sessions. To the answer the question , no. Axl is no frank zappa. 

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1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

Fans who are still REALLY mad that it's not still 1987 are going to complain a ton.

Even if Steven and Izzy were involved, and the new album was effectively Appetite For Destruction II, those people would still find something to bitch about. I can hear it now. "Axl doesn't sound like he used to;" "Slash noodles too much;" "Where's a song with Izzy on lead vocals?" Etc, etc.

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I can only speak for myself but I would review a new Guns album as I would review any album. If it was great I'd say so, if it was shite I'd say so. Chinese's weakness was as much lyrically as any abrupt changes in musical direction. The lyrics could have just as easily been placed against cock rock riffs and been just as poor.

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When Slash and Richard said they were working on new stuff, I didn’t give it much credence. However, when Duff says it, I definitely feel that it has some merit! 

Not sure why but Duff definitely seems to be the most credible and trustworthy when it comes to this band.

I’ve been around the block too many times to firmly get my hopes up but consider my fingers crossed!

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6 hours ago, RussTCB said:

This is going to end the same way the Chinese release did:

Open minded fans will give it a chance and probably like / love it. 

Fans who are still REALLY mad that it's not still 1987 are going to complain a ton.

I'm not quite sure if I understood your post correctly. Surely you are not saying that people who don't like everything Gn'R releases, are not open minded or would like to live in the past? (and yes I noticed the use of the word "probably", but IMO it still comes off a bit like a blanket statement)

 There are fans who are very vocally hating on CD (and some others vocally loving it), there is also the middle ground, myself being part of that group. CD is very mixed bag for me. There's some stuff that I like, some of it feels OK/meh and then some that I don't like.... at all.

When it comes to the idea of living in the past and them releasing second Appetite (which is not possible, but lets pretend that it is), I'm guessing there are some people who would complain about that too, even if they didn't like CD. 

I think I've reached the point that I have no strong feelings about new music anymore. If they don't release anything new, then so be it. And if they do, that would be a small miracle and a happy day for many Gn'R fans around the world..... and Richard Fortus. :lol: 

 

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I so desperate need to hear the CD leftovers.

Jackie Chan, The General, Atlas Shrugged.. Though, no one knows what changes will be made with Slash/Duff onboard.

What if Axl has new material aside from the above?

 

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1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said:

I can only speak for myself but I would review a new Guns album as I would review any album. If it was great I'd say so, if it was shite I'd say so. Chinese's weakness was as much lyrically as any abrupt changes in musical direction. The lyrics could have just as easily been placed against cock rock riffs and been just as poor.

CD has not even one track that has a catchy refrain/chorus. its an experimental album with tons of ideas. pitman did a horrible job on remixing. brain did even worse. 

it should have sound like a Linkin Park / Korn album, but they washed out all roughness out of it. 

But you're right. if an album is good, its good. the benchmark is pretty high because of AFD and UYI. But i'm sure that i would have liked the 1996/1997 album with the old band, because the album would have sound like gnr. And CD has a totally different sound/vibe and doesn't deserve a release under the gnr brand.

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32 minutes ago, Creed said:

CD has not even one track that has a catchy refrain/chorus. its an experimental album with tons of ideas. 

Huh, to my ears Shacklers has an amazingly catchy chorus. The "Na na na" part in Catcher and the refrain in There Was A Time.

That said, a few more catchy hooks wouldve been welcomed.

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1 hour ago, Fourteenbeers said:

I'm not quite sure if I understood your post correctly. Surely you are not saying that people who don't like everything Gn'R releases, are not open minded or would like to live in the past? (and yes I noticed the use of the word "probably", but IMO it still comes off a bit like a blanket statement)

 There are fans who are very vocally hating on CD (and some others vocally loving it), there is also the middle ground, myself being part of that group. CD is very mixed bag for me. There's some stuff that I like, some of it feels OK/meh and then some that I don't like.... at all.

When it comes to the idea of living in the past and them releasing a second Appetite (which is not possible, but lets pretend that it is), I'm guessing there are some people who would complain about that too, even if they didn't like CD. 

I think I've reached the point that I have no strong feelings about new music anymore. If they don't release anything new, then so be it. And if they do, that would be a small miracle and a happy day for many Gn'R fans around the world..... and Richard Fortus :lol: 

 

No sir, not what I'm saying at all. 

I'm not at all saying that just because someone doesn't like CD or any particular GNR material that they are automatically closed minded. 

However, there is a large cross section of people who do not like CD that are just really mad that it's not 1987 anymore. 

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1 hour ago, Creed said:

CD has not even one track that has a catchy refrain/chorus. its an experimental album with tons of ideas.

There wouldn't be anything wrong with that even if the former were true. It wasn't exactly intended to be a Top 40 pop album, was it?

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22 hours ago, NeonKinight said:

As far as my knowledge goes (or as I understood) Crash Diet was never a GNR Track...or never meant to be used, just like "Sunny lovers day" n' "martyr of the 20th century".
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I know, it's a shame! Never heard of those two either!

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17 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said:

Good you clarified that. 

And the last part is very true.

And BTW.... 

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:lol: my bad! :)

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Im sure I will like it....it will have Axls vocals and Slashs guitar. That cannot fail to my ears.

Will it be as good as Estranged?!! Who knows. But it doesnt need to.

Anyways, music is subjective. I would take UYIs over AFD anyday.

I would just like these guys to set free from the burden of releasing something, and see what they have to offer.

I will always love them for what they already created. That will never change.

So for me, its a win-win situation.

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On 2/22/2019 at 5:29 PM, Gibson_Guy87 said:

Soul Monster

Thyme (Tyme?)

Seven

Checkmate/Jackie Chan

The General

Atlas Shrugged

 

That'd be a pretty killer track list, plus whatever Axl has that we don't know about

All this plus Izzy's "Down by the River" (or something like that, whatever it's called) that allegedly Axl and ChiDem era members were tinkering around with

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25 minutes ago, Caught_in_a_Coma said:

All this plus Izzy's "Down by the River" (or something like that, whatever it's called) that allegedly Axl and ChiDem era members were tinkering around with

"This plus Izzy's" is "Down the Ocean" :D

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Down By The Ocean (its title then changed to Box) was eventually used by Izzy on his solo album Fire, so you can listen to it there.

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1 hour ago, Twinaleblood said:

Down By The Ocean (its title then changed to Box) was eventually used by Izzy on his solo album Fire, so you can listen to it there.

Nobody really knows that for sure.  Some have speculated that Box is Down by the  Ocean while others have said it's not.  I don't think it has ever been confirmed. 

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2 minutes ago, Draguns said:

Nobody really knows that for sure.  Some have speculated that Box is Down by the  Ocean while others have said it's not.  I don't think it has ever been confirmed. 

Right, but it seems a very educated guess

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So want to get excited by this but ......

But the fun part and the cool part about GUNS N' ROSES is we don't really talk about it”

How can they release an album without talking about it?????

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