Len Cnut 13,623 Posted March 2 13 minutes ago, username said: Honestly, it's not in my worst GnR songs top 3 I'd reckon. Yes it's messy and overproduced but I do like the vocals. It's not very good, certainly not when compared to the amazing original. But for me it's meh at worst. The thing is the original to me is like, a rare example of like a stone cold flawless fucking 500 million carat diamond of a song, you're never going to like...do it justice. And especially not with what Guns did. Whats brilliant about the song (among other things) is how spacey it is, and minimalist...the latin beat is kinda the making of the song. They just sucked all the style and panache out of it and made it this meatheaded rock song with a corny overblown Axl vocal, its like they don't know whats good about the song and what to accentuate and capitalise on. I mean Mick is the king of like...camp overblown vocals but he sort instinctively knew to play that one a bit straight, it makes it sort of...not creepier but...you can sing those lyrics with a sort of pantomime cynical evil voice, it makes it sound silly, The Stones one kind of draws itself into the old tradition of blues and the Devil and all that, the Guns one is dreadful in comparison. And its one of those songs thats SOOOO big that you can't really escape comparison. The only way to do songs like that is to do something DRASTICALLY different, that way you give the song a chance cuz people go 'oh well they're not TRYING to do the same thing', sort of like how Devo covered Satisfaction or Ray Charles did Yesterday. But to take something like SFTD and make it into a straight rock song is so uninspired and disingenuous. Especially the solo, which is Keiths hands is like...top 5 greatest solos in the world ever...and they make a fucking hash of it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
username 3,289 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Len Cnut said: The thing is the original to me is like, a rare example of like a stone cold flawless fucking 500 million carat diamond of a song, you're never going to like...do it justice. And especially not with what Guns did. Whats brilliant about the song (among other things) is how spacey it is, and minimalist...the latin beat is kinda the making of the song. They just sucked all the style and panache out of it and made it this meatheaded rock song with a corny overblown Axl vocal, its like they don't know whats good about the song and what to accentuate and capitalise on. I mean Mick is the king of like...camp overblown vocals but he sort instinctively knew to play that one a bit straight, it makes it sort of...not creepier but...you can sing those lyrics with a sort of pantomime cynical evil voice, it makes it sound silly, The Stones one kind of draws itself into the old tradition of blues and the Devil and all that, the Guns one is dreadful in comparison. And its one of those songs thats SOOOO big that you can't really escape comparison. The only way to do songs like that is to do something DRASTICALLY different, that way you give the song a chance cuz people go 'oh well they're not TRYING to do the same thing', sort of like how Devo covered Satisfaction or Ray Charles did Yesterday. But to take something like SFTD and make it into a straight rock song is so uninspired and disingenuous. Especially the solo, which is Keiths hands is like...top 5 greatest solos in the world ever...and they make a fucking hash of it. I'm with you on everything you said. But it's still not in my worst GnR top 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueJean Baby 9,190 Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Be honest with yourself the song is fuckin' dreadful and everyone involved in its creation should take a long hard look at themselves. Even Slash, the perrenial battered wife punching bag came out of the creation of this abomination like 'nah, fuck this band!'. I actually like it 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Len Cnut 13,623 Posted March 2 24 minutes ago, BlueJean Baby said: I actually like it No you don't, you're just imagining it 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lame ass security 1,065 Posted March 2 Man, too many choices really. But I will say this, sometimes it's difficult to separate a song from the video. Someone mentioned Ratt earlier, they were an excellent band who made crap videos. Does anyone remember Billy Squier? His career was pretty much destroyed by the Rock Me Tonite video, eventhough the song wasn't that bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucketfoot 3,007 Posted March 3 3 hours ago, lame ass security said: Does anyone remember Billy Squier? His career was pretty much destroyed by the Rock Me Tonite video, eventhough the song wasn't that bad. Looked like Sammy Hagar doing Flashdance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmarBradley 1,243 Posted March 3 On 3/2/2019 at 8:54 AM, MillionsOfSpiders said: What's wrong with this song? It's not amazing, but I don't think it qualifies for the thread title. But, here's one that does: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lame ass security 1,065 Posted March 3 58 minutes ago, OmarBradley said: What's wrong with this song? It's not amazing, but I don't think it qualifies for the thread title. But, here's one that does: I agree man, the Ugly Kid Joe song was just campy and fun. As for the Duff song, I'm refusing to listen to it.😄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadApples99 141 Posted March 3 (edited) Let me add everything by the beatles. Fuck what do i hate that band Edited March 3 by BadApples99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Len Cnut 13,623 Posted March 3 Literally the sound of rock n roll dying 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janrichmond 8,999 Posted March 3 That Whitney fucking Houston song the bodyguard movie and the Titanic song from Silly Dion 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillionsOfSpiders 9,707 Posted March 4 11 hours ago, OmarBradley said: What's wrong with this song? It's not amazing, but I don't think it qualifies for the thread title. It’s awful crap rock and I think it is meant to be funny but it really isn’t. If you’re going to do a joke song at least be a bit amusing - like Used to Love Her is. I did get their first album and I only listened to it a couple of times. And their horrible cover Cats in the Cradle really sets my teeth on edge, it makes me cringe that some people think GNR did it I should’ve posted that as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
username 3,289 Posted March 4 12 hours ago, BadApples99 said: Let me add everything by the beatles. Fuck what do i hate that band You just permanently invalidated every opinion you'll ever have about music. Sorry mate. 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
username 3,289 Posted March 4 2 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: And their horrible cover Cats in the Cradle really sets my teeth on edge, it makes me cringe that some people think GNR did it I remember it being one of the most common fakes on KaZaA! Along with steaming GnR classics such as Every Rose Has It's Thorn, White Christmas and Smells Like Teen Spirit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciusfunk 1,402 Posted March 5 On 2/28/2019 at 3:50 PM, soon said: It's the My World of the TMNT universe No, Ninja Rap was awesome! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciusfunk 1,402 Posted March 5 On 3/2/2019 at 5:12 AM, Len Cnut said: Be honest with yourself the song is fuckin' dreadful and everyone involved in its creation should take a long hard look at themselves. Even Slash, the perrenial battered wife punching bag came out of the creation of this abomination like 'nah, fuck this band!'. I used to think I liked this song. I randomly listened to it for the first time in years today and realized it's kinda shitty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soon 6,186 Posted March 5 12 minutes ago, luciusfunk said: No, Ninja Rap was awesome! Haha, well... I figure anyone who thinks its awesome has perfected the dance moves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Len Cnut 13,623 Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, luciusfunk said: I used to think I liked this song. I randomly listened to it for the first time in years today and realized it's kinda shitty. For a couple of weeks back there I thought I liked Rockin’ All Over the World by Status Quo...I’ve since sort of come back to my senses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueJean Baby 9,190 Posted March 6 Just heard this on the radio and I still cringe every time I hear it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luciusfunk 1,402 Posted March 9 On 3/5/2019 at 1:55 PM, Len Cnut said: For a couple of weeks back there I thought I liked Rockin’ All Over the World by Status Quo...I’ve since sort of come back to my senses. It’s better than Guns’ cover of Sympathy, though. On 3/5/2019 at 1:52 PM, soon said: Haha, well... I figure anyone who thinks its awesome has perfected the dance moves? No. Maybe I should work on that. 😄 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-W.A.R- 2,295 Posted March 9 (edited) On 3/3/2019 at 5:46 PM, janrichmond said: That Whitney fucking Houston song the bodyguard movie and the Titanic song from Silly Dion Oh man i remember belting out I Will Always Love You in the back of my mothers car as a kid It was out of character for me to do something like that - Whitney's vocal power possessed me Edited March 9 by -W.A.R- 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Len Cnut 13,623 Posted March 9 11 hours ago, luciusfunk said: It’s better than Guns’ cover of Sympathy, though. No. Maybe I should work on that. 😄 Martin in your avatar seems to be having a go 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janrichmond 8,999 Posted March 9 17 hours ago, -W.A.R- said: Oh man i remember belting out I Will Always Love You in the back of my mothers car as a kid It was out of character for me to do something like that - Whitney's vocal power possessed me As you were a child when you committed this offence...i will forgive you. However any repeats of such behaviour will result in an immediate ban followed by a kick in the 'nads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vikute91 73 Posted March 15 (edited) This. I was recently watching a video of top music videos with over 1 billion views on YouTube and I was appalled. How can it have 1.5 billion views is beyond me. Thriller has only a third of that. (Out of 50 or so songs that have hit the billion mark only a handful were pre-2010; this was one, another just like this, surprisingly November Rain, and maybe a few others I don't recall). Does this mean people are still listening to it? cause when it came out YT was just at its beginnings Edited March 15 by vikute91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
