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11 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

To be honest blackstar, he didnt seem that in the 90s just before the illusion records came out. I remember he was doing radio interviews and saying that these records need to come out and that he was looking forward to it . Hence the 3 to 4 hour shows the band did before the albums were released, as warmup gigs. It seemed there was a personal push and enthusiasm to get the music out to the public. So im on the fence with him being insecure. I personally think the way CD was being reviewed and the issues he had with the label have impacted him emotionally to a degree.

I think he has a tendency to be insecure and it's increased after he didn't achieve what he thought he should. He wanted to surpass Appetite with the Illusions and I think he believed he could (hence the enthusiasm you mention) -  and probably he believed it for a while after the Illusions were released, too. Then he wanted NuGnR to be equally great as the classic band. And it's not enough even if he thinks in his mind that he has achieved his creative goals; he wants the world to acknowledge it too, i.e. the respective success and acclaim, and that didn't happen. He set the goals too high, which isn't wrong in itself, but for Axl can be paralyzing afterwards. Slash, Izzy and Duff don't have these issues. Neither do many other musicians who have made peace with the fact that they reached a peak of creativity, success or acclaim in the past which they'll never surpass, and they move on making the best music they can and simply releasing it. But not Axl.

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3 hours ago, Gibson_Guy87 said:

I was born in '97 and I'm a bigger fan of the CD era. AFD/UYI are cool and are some of my favorite albums but I liked the direction that CD went in. I hope any future releases continue to incorporate strings/piano into the songs.  

What album did you listen to first? I've always heard that it matters what you listen to first. I started with all the big AFD hits and went from there. 

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7 hours ago, Nice Boy said:

 

5. Sad to say perhaps, but Fortus is just a better guitarist.

 

Malmsteen is even better guitarist... Let's replace Slash and Duff with Yngwie Malmsteen/John Petrucci and Billy Sheehan...

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7 hours ago, History2010 said:

What album did you listen to first? I've always heard that it matters what you listen to first. I started with all the big AFD hits and went from there. 

I started with Appetite and moved to Illusions from there. I used to be an 87-93 purist and refused to listen to Chinese and now it's my favorite album by any band ever. 

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Axl was on his vocal top not in 87, not in 88, not in 91, but in 1992. Power-wise and everything else. 
I have spoken. 

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6 hours ago, acor said:

Malmsteen is even better guitarist... Let's replace Slash and Duff with Yngwie Malmsteen/John Petrucci and Billy Sheehan...

Slash replaced Malmsteen once...

2 hours ago, Silverburst80 said:

I like the beat on My World so fuck you all

Good jam for what it is

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3 hours ago, jamillos said:

Axl was on his vocal top not in 87, not in 88, not in 91, but in 1992. Power-wise and everything else. 
I have spoken. 

He was powerful but he Sweet Child sung with all rasp. C'mon, that's not peak Axl, as he lost the versatility. 1993 > 1992

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I just learned recently in some documentary I watched that Slash replaced him in the band Steeler..  I assume the information was accurate but that was the first I remember hearing of it..

* I Just looked at the bands wiki and there is no mention of Slash but they definitely said it on some documentary I watched on Amazon prime.  I watch a ton so I am not exactly sure which one it was.

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7 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

I just learned recently in some documentary I watched that Slash replaced him in the band Steeler..  I assume the information was accurate but that was the first I remember hearing of it..

* I Just looked at the bands wiki and there is no mention of Slash but they definitely said it on some documentary I watched on Amazon prime.  I watch a ton so I am not exactly sure which one it was.

That's cool, but they are two totally different players. 

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On 5/24/2019 at 3:25 PM, double talkin jive mfkr said:

1991 warm up shows is the best version of GNR 

This is the unpopular opinion thread, not the GNR facts thread!

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So Fine is a great song... Have it in my top20 GnR songs...

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On 24/05/2019 at 3:44 AM, acor said:

Malmsteen is even better guitarist... Let's replace Slash and Duff with Yngwie Malmsteen/John Petrucci and Billy Sheehan...

That would suck so hard. 

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6 hours ago, Drexl said:

Izzy fanboys are more annoying than Axl ones.

This. 

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I think the Illusion albums might be more of the "true" sound of GN'R than AFD.  By that, I mean songs like Dust N' Bones, Breakdown, KOHD, Yesterdays, Bad Apples, Bad Obsession, 14 Years.  Songs like that.  Kind of a country/folksy tinge to the sound.  Also I think there's kind of an experimental/artistic edge to their sound that is captured in stuff like Locomotive and Coma and those are found on the Illusion albums.  Rocket Queen kind of has that in the masterful outro it switches to near the end of the song though and that's on AFD.  I could be completely wrong here.  It's just if I'm thinking of unpopular opinions, the idea that maybe the Illusions might be more the sound of what GN'R really is, that's all I've got off the top of my head

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5 hours ago, Caught_in_a_Coma said:

I think the Illusion albums might be more of the "true" sound of GN'R than AFD.  By that, I mean songs like Dust N' Bones, Breakdown, KOHD, Yesterdays, Bad Apples, Bad Obsession, 14 Years.  Songs like that.  Kind of a country/folksy tinge to the sound.  Also I think there's kind of an experimental/artistic edge to their sound that is captured in stuff like Locomotive and Coma and those are found on the Illusion albums.  Rocket Queen kind of has that in the masterful outro it switches to near the end of the song though and that's on AFD.  I could be completely wrong here.  It's just if I'm thinking of unpopular opinions, the idea that maybe the Illusions might be more the sound of what GN'R really is, that's all I've got off the top of my head

the sound they got in the Sorum era is the ideal sound of the band.

UYI and TSI is the sound that is the perfect fit for GNR moniker.

That big bombastic sound (Back off, YCBM, DTJ, Perfect crime, Right next door, Locomotive, Pretty tied up, Breakdown, Get in the ring...).  AFD sounds like brats on speed.  UYI is rock with brains and feel.

Oddly,  one common thought about UYI was that 'they are overproduced'.  Once someone said that out loud, even the people who didn't own the cd's or were the fans of the band begaun repeating that mantra, yet, nobody could actually ever define 'overproduced' once asked about it.

UYI', IMO, were perfect sound to the perfect band.

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7 hours ago, shotsfired cro said:

the sound they got in the Sorum era is the ideal sound of the band.

UYI and TSI is the sound that is the perfect fit for GNR moniker.

That big bombastic sound (Back off, YCBM, DTJ, Perfect crime, Right next door, Locomotive, Pretty tied up, Breakdown, Get in the ring...).  AFD sounds like brats on speed.  UYI is rock with brains and feel.

Oddly,  one common thought about UYI was that 'they are overproduced'.  Once someone said that out loud, even the people who didn't own the cd's or were the fans of the band begaun repeating that mantra, yet, nobody could actually ever define 'overproduced' once asked about it.

UYI', IMO, were perfect sound to the perfect band.

For me, the over production comes in the mastering of the albums. I feel like somewhere along the way, we lost the great production value that's in AFD, and the hugeeeee production quality in TSI only shortly later. UYI does feel dated. If you listen to tracks like Dust N' Bones live vs. studio, the live sound (like from the Stockholm shows) seems like a more complete version. Maybe that's just me, but the live versions are far far superior, they sound as if the guys kept working on the tracks as the tour went on. The UYI versions feel like a facsimile in some parts.

 

Does Double Talkin' Jive really seem like it was fully realized during the  UYI I recording? The ballads definitely feel complete to me, although Don't Cry seems to drag on in the last few bars, and a banjo comes out of nowhere for some reason.

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On 5/26/2019 at 9:59 AM, acor said:

So Fine is a great song... Have it in my top20 GnR songs...

I want to like that song so much more than I ever have. 

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On 26.5.2019 at 11:42 AM, Drexl said:

Izzy fanboys are more annoying than Axl ones.

How about girls?

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12 hours ago, shotsfired cro said:

the sound they got in the Sorum era is the ideal sound of the band.

UYI and TSI is the sound that is the perfect fit for GNR moniker.

That big bombastic sound (Back off, YCBM, DTJ, Perfect crime, Right next door, Locomotive, Pretty tied up, Breakdown, Get in the ring...).  AFD sounds like brats on speed.  UYI is rock with brains and feel.

Oddly,  one common thought about UYI was that 'they are overproduced'.  Once someone said that out loud, even the people who didn't own the cd's or were the fans of the band begaun repeating that mantra, yet, nobody could actually ever define 'overproduced' once asked about it.

UYI', IMO, were perfect sound to the perfect band.

"Brats on speed", I'm singing that to the melody of "Girls on film".

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