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I remember when it was Slash who was hated by Axly fans and not Izzy, but they mysteriously switched to Izzy circa 2016 for some apparent reason, Slash reclaimed as a prodigal son type figure. Funny that!

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and it transpires he has a third. This watch will set you back £75,000,00 by the way,

Reasonably modest for a rich rockstars watch.  Shame its ugly as fuck.

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On 12/26/2019 at 7:09 PM, double talkin jive mfkr said:

This I love is the worst song ever written 

I think the remixed version of this is 100x better than the CD version. 

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17 minutes ago, Axlhbk8793 said:

I dont like Knocking on Heaven's Door.... at all.

I think most GNR fans are pretty indifferent to it.

Just a popular one with the casuals and the band seem to think it's a crowd pleaser, just because it has a call and response thing going on, when most people around me during the Guns shows I've attended looked bored off their tits during the tediously-long 12+ minute KOHD performances.

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Heres my unpopular opinion: This I Love is the most boring song on CD, and I dont understand why people call it a masterpiece, and Axl should've stuck to his guns and left it off of CD & put Atlas Shrugged on the record or Perhaps.

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I think Live and Let Die is not a good song. So many ups and downs.. its just s shite song for Guns. Original version is great.

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35 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

I would love it if there were some way for GNR to put out a record and no one have any idea who's playing what. It'd be interesting to see what honest opinions people had if they couldn't rely on the biased "this person or that person isn't GNR" crutch. 

I don't know who plays what on all the albums they released.  I don't really care. I either like the song as a whole or I don't. The Chinese era people were all great for whatever they contributed musically.  It was only the stage get up that was embarrassing for some in my opinion. Great post by the way.

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1. I've never once considered One in a Million as racist or derogatory, and am sick of how the debate/discussion/point is always bought up at any available opportunity by journos.

I can understand why it's easy to claim it as both those things, I've just never seen it or interrupted it in that light in my mind. I generally won't speak up about my opinion on this matter as its easy to paint me with the same brush by association.

2. LIES version of You're Crazy is fantastic and my preference over AFD's track.

3. Slash is brilliant at what he does, yet is still overrated as a guitarist.

4. Tommy's voice (think it was him, but might have been Finck) during live performances of the song Chinese Democracy often sounded better than Axl's.

5. I'm often biased towards Axl's voice, but in reality - more often than not, - he is well below par whenever I've seen him live post 93. Just don't like to admit it :P

6. Spaghetti Incident is a great, heavy, & fun album. Since I Don't Have You makes me cringe and imo shouldn't have been on the record.

7. The band has too many ballads, which slow live shows down drastically cutting the bulk of them out would result in a more powerful show. Patience should never be in the encore.

8. The bands live shows seem very generic and cookie cutter, and have been since the later UYI tours.

 

Great thread OP!

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1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

I would love it if there were some way for GNR to put out a record and no one have any idea who's playing what. It'd be interesting to see what honest opinions people had if they couldn't rely on the biased "this person or that person isn't GNR" crutch. 

The 'surprise release' route is the way to do that... no credits, no booklet, just the digital files with the cover art. People wouldn't know who plays on what songs until about 8 weeks after they'd already heard the songs. (Assuming they take pre-orders for physical copies when they release the album digitally)

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11 minutes ago, hudsonsaul said:

 

1. I've never once considered One in a Million as racist or derogatory, and am sick of how the debate/discussion/point is always bought up at any available opportunity by journos.

I can understand why it's easy to claim it as both those things, I've just never seen it or interrupted it in that light in my mind.

 

I find your post modernist reading of the lyrics to be truly fascinating.

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7 hours ago, Axlhbk8793 said:

I dont like Knocking on Heaven's Door.... at all.

The live version from 1987 in London that was officially released in 2018 is by far the best version I've heard

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27 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Yeah, but if they did that now everyone would assume it was Frank drumming and so on. It'd be hilarious to see everyone shit all over the drums, assuming it was Frank then have it turn out to be Matt and have them all praise it lol

Yea it would be entertainingp to see people trying to figure out who's playing what... kinda like when Better originally leaked and everyone was speculating about who wrote it, then Axl flat out said it was a 'Robin song' a couple months later. 

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2 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

The Garden was the last great performance of a new song introduced live by GNR (skin and bones) 

If The World, This I Love and Shackler's were pretty great in 2009-2010.

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Here are a few:

 

  • UYI is peak GNR. While releasing 1 album of the best material would have blown away AFD, even the weaker tracks are largely pretty good.
  • Chinese Democracy is about 2 more conventional rock tracks away from being a great album. Add polished versions of Hard School and State of Grace instead of If the World and This I Love and its there. Those two tracks ruin the album's pacing.
  • A few tracks notwithstanding, Slash hasn't released anything worthwhile since leaving Guns. Not a single album that is above a 6/10.
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32 minutes ago, marksam91 said:

 

  • UYI is peak GNR. While releasing 1 album of the best material would have blown away AFD, even the weaker tracks are largely pretty good.

YES!!!

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19 hours ago, RussTCB said:

I would love it if there were some way for GNR to put out a record and no one have any idea who's playing what. It'd be interesting to see what honest opinions people had if they couldn't rely on the biased "this person or that person isn't GNR" crutch. 

This, although the out of tune noodling would make Slash pretty easy to pick out.

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6 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

axl has been pretty fucked up (booze + drugs) since around 2010 with the exception of his time with acdc and has no intention of writing anything new 

Interesting, what gives you that inclination?  

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