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LA Guns Frontman Says All GN'R Albums Except 'Appetite' Are 'Pretty Average'

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1 hour ago, Sosso said:

That's a lie

I think sex action did get them some attention?.

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1 hour ago, Dean said:

I wonder if there'd be rasp?

I suppose being in LA Guns, Phil is well versed on what's 'pretty average' to be fair.

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2 hours ago, Sosso said:

That's a lie

They certainly don't have a "hit" in the sense of a Sweet Child or a WTTJ - a song that everyone knows and instantly thinks of when they hear the name of the band.

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This is ridiculous. Are you lot going to shit your trews whenever somebody criticises your god Rose? The LA Guns chap is entitled to his opinion. The Illusions are spottier than a block of swiss cheese haha.

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14 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

Thats different, they're fast and loose, like Eddie Feltson.  Frenetic.  These things are a saving grace.  Besides which my comment about Izzy wasn't to say that he wasn't capable of making a good dense racket but rather he has a rhythmically driven quality that offsets the more metallar-ish tendencies of Slash.

Ah, a Fast Eddie reference, gives me a hankering for some J.T.S. Brown.

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3 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

This is ridiculous. Are you lot going to shit your trews whenever somebody criticises your god Rose? The LA Guns chap is entitled to his opinion. The Illusions are spottier than a block of swiss cheese haha.

You can like em or not but records with so many hits, great songs and album sales like the Illusions are far from average. I don't like the Beatles, still it would be stupid to say they are average.

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11 hours ago, Sosso said:

 

 

 

 

 

That's Adler's Appetite level really. If these are their best songs then they are far below average IMO. I could tell you a dozen better SMKC songs easily. 

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12 hours ago, WhazUp said:

I have heard Cocked & Loaded, the self titled and a few of their recent ones and even the biggest hits I wasn't that impressed with - although if there are any deep cuts you are willing to reccomend I am up for checking those out before further bashing them more :lol:

I really like Hollywood Vampires.

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9 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

This is ridiculous. Are you lot going to shit your trews whenever somebody criticises your god Rose? The LA Guns chap is entitled to his opinion. The Illusions are spottier than a block of swiss cheese haha.

You must know how it goes by now Diesel....

Band/individual says something derogatory about Guns >> We have five pages of Guns fans talking shit about said band/individual >> Repeat ad nauseam

You're not playing by the rules!!!

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9 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

This is ridiculous. Are you lot going to shit your trews whenever somebody criticises your god Rose? The LA Guns chap is entitled to his opinion. The Illusions are spottier than a block of swiss cheese haha.

Must be a miserable feeling being a fan of one-album-wonder.

11 hours ago, Dean said:

I've always seen the devotion that we as fans give very similar to that of following your favourite sports team. We invest our time coming here daily, voicing our opinions and concerns on whatever the band may or may not be doing. Whenever Guns are playing, we've got threads on the show, where people all over the world give their thoughts on how the performance is going, whether it be good or bad, but at the end of the day, we all want to see the band firing on all cylinders and showing that they're the best at what they do. If someone comes along and slates your team or whatever you spend your time/money on, I'd say it would be a natural response to put them in their place.

Or I could have had too much to drink and talking nonsense, which is possibly more likely :lol:

You shouldn't stop drinking, Sir.

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You don't like Coma @Len Cnut?

Why you no good, lisp having, swan fucking, piece of paper being son of a bitch! *breaks chair over you*

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4 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

You don't like Coma @Len Cnut?

Why you no good, lisp having, swan fucking, piece of paper being son of a bitch! *breaks chair over you*

I know. Shocking isn't it? I used to think so highly of Len, but it just goes to show, you never really know someone like you think you do....

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26 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

You don't like Coma @Len Cnut?

Why you no good, lisp having, swan fucking, piece of paper being son of a bitch! *breaks chair over you*

Mate, its a load of cheese-on-toast bollocks.  Apart from being musically naff the lyrics, Oh God, the fuckin' lyrics, they're just terrible, awful, self indulgent whingey bollocks.  Its so by numbers, the Comfortably Numb motif, I'm in a coma and don't wanna live this life but then coming back and like...fuckin' hell, a 13 yr old could've wrote it, its just dreadful, lazy songwriting.  And then to make a bad situation worse its a shit, groove-less idea (not that everything has to have fuckin' groove but its not like he's making some kind of Kraftwerk-esque soundscape here!) that, for some reason, Axl felt inspired enough to fuckin' make into a what is it, 11, 12, 13 minute song?  Its like the worst fuckin' idea to try that with.  It really is a dreadful song and shows that like, GnR, for all their good points, and there are plenty, were never really in that upper tier of songwriters/musicians/rock bands to where they could pull off something like that, make something of value out of it.  It is fuckin' proper corny. 

And I don't even mind maudlin, I mean I got Morrissey in my fuckin' avatar for crying out loud...but this has none of the charm, the wit, the talent of someone like Moz, its basically Slash having a metaller wank (and there's no wank worse than a metaller wank) while Axl has a lengthy whinge over it.  It don't even feel like song lyrics, it feels like some cunt having a moan.  Its the only out and out shit original song (lest someone point out Sympathy for the Devil) that original Guns made, I mean there was some questionable shit in their catalogue but it was always like, something in there of value, a good idea, a good riff, cool lyrics, there was always something, Comas just fuckin' absolute shite. 

To me, its songs like this that keep Guns from being like, exceptional.  They're good.  Very good.  Sometimes even brilliant.  But they have such poor desicion making, in my opinion, in some avenues of the job.  There are just certain fuckin' things, certain choices they make, whether its picking covers that they don't have the dynamic to pull off well, or this insistence of seeing through shit ideas, just really bad desicion-making and y'know what, part of being a great band is the choices you make.  Even the greatest of bands, if they made certain shit desicions, it'd set em on a path from which history would look at em totally different.  Take The Beatles for examples, imagine if they'd've folded and done How Do You Do as their first single instead of Please Please Me, cuz its not a bad song, it was a hit for Gerry and the Pacemakers and The Beatles version of it on the Anthology is respectable, it would've probably been a hit, but nah, something in em just made the choice of like, fuck it, hit or no hit we're going THIS way.  Just these little desicions that kinda take a band on a certain path and Guns were notoriously fuckin' dreadful with such choices...consistently dreadful. 

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4 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

Mate, its a load of cheese-on-toast bollocks.  Apart from being musically naff the lyrics, Oh God, the fuckin' lyrics, they're just terrible, awful, self indulgent whingey bollocks.  Its so by numbers, the Comfortably Numb motif, I'm in a coma and don't wanna live this life but then coming back and like...fuckin' hell, a 13 yr old could've wrote it, its just dreadful, lazy songwriting.  And then to make a bad situation worse its a shit, groove-less idea (not that everything has to have fuckin' groove but its not like he's making some kind of Kraftwerk-esque soundscape here!) that, for some reason, Axl felt inspired enough to fuckin' make into a what is it, 11, 12, 13 minute song?  Its like the worst fuckin' idea to try that with.  It really is a dreadful song and shows that like, GnR, for all their good points, and there are plenty, were never really in that upper tier of songwriters/musicians/rock bands to where they could pull off something like that, make something of value out of it.  It is fuckin' proper corny. 

And I don't even mind maudlin, I mean I got Morrissey in my fuckin' avatar for crying out loud...but this has none of the charm, the wit, the talent of someone like Moz, its basically Slash having a metaller wank (and there's no wank worse than a metaller wank) while Axl has a lengthy whinge over it.  It don't even feel like song lyrics, it feels like some cunt having a moan.  Its the only out and out shit original song (lest someone point out Sympathy for the Devil) that original Guns made, I mean there was some questionable shit in their catalogue but it was always like, something in there of value, a good idea, a good riff, cool lyrics, there was always something, Comas just fuckin' absolute shite. 

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12 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

...JAAN! @janrichmond

And Will Ferrel and Judd Apatow make shit films and all :lol:  Anchorman, there's only one Alan Partridge.

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1 minute ago, Len Cnut said:

And Will Ferrel and Judd Apatow make shit films and all :lol:  Anchorman, there's only one Alan Partridge.

Coma is brilliant and in the top 5 objectively best GNR songs. Pink Floyd is amazing. Step Brothers, The Other Guys and Anchorman 1 are all hilarious. 

What's wrong with you? You're going to hell when you die, just fyi.

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Coma is brilliant and in the top 5 objectively best GNR songs

No its not, its charmless wank and indicative of a man, or a band, whoose ambition far exceeds their talent.  Like a good young prospect getting a title shot and getting starched in the 5th round.

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Pink Floyd is amazing

Ugh. 

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Step Brothers, The Other Guys and Anchorman 1 are all hilarious. 

Its fuckin' biege comedy.  It is, to the field of comedy, what magnolia paint is to painting and decorating, the safe OK option. 

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1 minute ago, Len Cnut said:

No its not, its charmless wank and indicative of a man, or a band, whoose ambition far exceeds their talent.  Like a good young prospect getting a title shot and getting starched in the 5th round.

Ugh. 

Its fuckin' biege comedy.  It is, to the field of comedy, what magnolia paint is to painting and decorating, the safe OK option. 

*shines torch in your eyes* Dark Side of the Moon, no? You're a wrong'un, Leonard.

P.S. I don't need to be dangerous all the time. I appreciate a little biege now and again. 

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P.S. I don't need to be dangerous all the time. I appreciate a little biege now and again. 

To me its a simple choice between interesting and uninteresting.  I will admit to sometimes being a victim of image when it comes to artists but I try to correct this whenever possible.  Perhaps I just get bored easily, I dunno. 

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Just now, Len Cnut said:

To me its a simple choice between interesting and uninteresting.  I will admit to sometimes being a victim of image when it comes to artists but I try to correct this whenever possible.  Perhaps I just get bored easily, I dunno. 

 

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18 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

 

See now there's class, love Rodney Dangerfield.  And uh, lest I come across as arrogant in my musical opinings its worth noting that I am a talentless observer of music who doesn't and won't have an ounce of the prowess of a Slash or an Axl Rose even if I live a thousand lifetimes :lol:

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47 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

It don't even feel like song lyrics, it feels like some cunt having a moan.

:rofl-lol:

48 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

To me, its songs like this that keep Guns from being like, exceptional.  They're good.  Very good.  Sometimes even brilliant.

Which GN'R songs do you consider brilliant?

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1 minute ago, Len Cnut said:

See now there's class, love Rodney Dangerfield.  And uh, lest I come across as arrogant in my musical opinings its worth noting that I am a talentless observer of music who doesn't have an ounce of the prowess of a Slash or an Axl Rose even if I live a thousand lifetimes :lol:

Yeah mate, Rodney Dangerfield is one of the all-time best comedians. Very likable charismatic guy. I was disappointed when I saw his interview on Howard Stern hearing about how sad his childhood was.

Love this scene.

 

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Coma is probably one of my favourite GnR songs, the last verse is, like Axl said, one of the best things he has ever written. I mean, it's a ten minute song with no chorus and I've never been bored by it, not once, and I can't tell you how many times I've listened to it. It aged incredibly well.

54 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

I mean I got Morrissey in my fuckin' avatar for crying out loud

I thought it was Robbie Williams, but to me English people all lookalike.

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