Towelie Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Conspirators for music Guns for cash. Even if they did do a new record, what's it gonna consist of? Slash copying and pasting solos over songs that didn't make the cut on Chinese? It's not going to be the sound of a genuine band, creating music together as a collaborative effort, like Appetite or UYI or SMKC. It's going to be riffs and ideas collated from the past twenty years from dozens of paid employees, excruciatingly laboured over by a megalomaniac who won't be able to pull off his vocals live because his parts were recorded 15-20yrs ago (ala Chinese Democracy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 it must be hard trying to work with a dysfunctional frontman. Slash n Duff must be feeling embarrassed about the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, donny said: it must be hard trying to work with a dysfunctional frontman. Slash n Duff must be feeling embarrassed about the situation. They knew what they were signing up for! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrph5 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 16 hours ago, YourMother'sDruthers said: When it comes to a new album, Slash is about as reliable a source as Richard or Dizzy. wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted April 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2019 18 hours ago, YourMother'sDruthers said: When it comes to a new album, Slash is about as reliable a source as Richard or Dizzy. 2 hours ago, fabrph5 said: wrong How so? Because they were original members? That has nothing to do with it when you consider that Axl is, was and will continue to be the one who holds up release of any new GN'R material. I've said this a lot recently and it's just plain true: nothing has changed but the names. The band continues to do business exactly the same as they have since 2002. They tour extensively and never mention a new album while doing so. Then during the downtime, members of the band tour for their various solo projects and say something along the lines of "we'll get together to look at a new album on XXXX date". I don't understand how Slash & Duff saying and doing the exact same thing as Richard & Dizzy is any different. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, RussTCB said: How so? Because they were original members? That has nothing to do with it when you consider that Axl is, was and will continue to be the one who holds up release of any new GN'R material. I've said this a lot recently and it's just plain true: nothing has changed but the names. The band continues to do business exactly the same as they have since 2002. They tour extensively and never mention a new album while doing so. Then during the downtime, members of the band tour for their various solo projects and say something along the lines of "we'll get together to look at a new album on XXXX date". I don't understand how Slash & Duff saying and doing the exact same thing as Richard & Dizzy is any different. Yes but in 2002 you heard things about trilogies and could delude yourself that Rose was this ''mad Brian Wilson genius'' and not the new Billy Joel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Yes but in 2002 you heard things about trilogies and could delude yourself that Rose was this ''mad Brian Wilson genius'' and not the new Billy Joel. Well, back then Axl was the one claiming things about trilogies. Ever since then, he hasn't said much if anything about the prospect of new material. I do believe he was "looking very seriously in that regard" once though lol. All I'm saying is that since 2002, we've had the same pattern. When GN'R isn't touring and a member has something to promote, they mention that GN'R should be working on a new album soon. It doesn't matter much to me who it is that's making the claim (Richard, Slash, Dizzy, Duff, etc) because the result is always the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Well, back then Axl was the one claiming things about trilogies. Ever since then, he hasn't said much if anything about the prospect of new material. I do believe he was "looking very seriously in that regard" once though lol. All I'm saying is that since 2002, we've had the same pattern. When GN'R isn't touring and a member has something to promote, they mention that GN'R should be working on a new album soon. It doesn't matter much to me who it is that's making the claim (Richard, Slash, Dizzy, Duff, etc) because the result is always the same. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. But I recall more by Rose in person from the period approximately 1999-2006. There was the rs interview and that live thing where he said we'd get a load of b-sides. Edited April 15, 2019 by DieselDaisy Deleted ''live''. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 In this interview Slash to describe himself as "workaholic"....at while Axl seem 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) You people really crack me up...it's been 32 fuckin years and most of you learned - nothing! 'I still have hopes....maybe while Slash was away with Myles...maybe...maybe...'. Slash is the driving force of this band. Fortus is fuckin 0 and NOBODY outside his family is interested in anything he, Frank or Melissa have to offer. Slash and Duff go out of Axl's way and will avoid any confrotations that are likely to rise over the weather, gas prices, parking lot...anything. They are happy to have made peace and play stadiums again - period. Slash still has PTSP from the first chapter with Axl and will not go into any confrotation period. You think he likes playing with Fortus, Frank and Melli or he would replace them with Iz/Gilby/Matt? Same goes for new music. He will not push Ax, he can release new music with conspirators anyway. What can change, and only this, Ax realizes he needs to pull out the same old line up trick again, Iz comes back and Iz, Slash, Duff stitch an albu in like no time. Perhaps rework the iconic '96 album and Ax lays down the vox. Other than that - FORGET IT. Edited April 15, 2019 by shotsfired cro 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Nygma Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Maybe Slash should have stuck around back in the day instead of throwing his toys out the pram. Saying that...I'm glad Guns experienced with the sound more rather than...meat & potatoes rnr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikosgnr Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Soon™ . 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunsNLoaded Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I'm sure the stars will align and a "new" album will be out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 What do you guys think slash has been doing in LA for the last month or so since smkc has been on tour break? Sure somethings in the works 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Nov 23 is only 221 days away. Sure something will be released even if its a ep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMother'sDruthers Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 11 hours ago, fabrph5 said: wrong How so? Please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC20 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 As bad as u critics are I hate to think what u are gonna say when the new album drops all this hate for the band what in the hell are u here for anyways Axls voice is toast but I still want s record and we are gonna get 1 - let’s hope with the time off he has seeked help and is near 100 percent A lot things have to happen Who the fuck is gonna be the drummer? Who us gonna produce the album A single album or a double album Can Axl sing or they gonna take his vox from Cd sessions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billly B Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 So there was supposed to be Chinese Democracy 2 (Which Fortus did a lot of work on) but the label refused to hear it after the fail of Chinese Democracy commercially. So yeah they could re-record those songs and have Axl sing on one or two of Slash and Duffs and there is a record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Billly B said: So there was supposed to be Chinese Democracy 2 (Which Fortus did a lot of work on) but the label refused to hear it after the fail of Chinese Democracy commercially. So yeah they could re-record those songs and have Axl sing on one or two of Slash and Duffs and there is a record. What? Where is that info from? Does that seem rational to you? The record company "refused to hear" CD2? I hope for your sake that you just made that up as opposed to someone else made that up and you are repeating it because it sounds plausible to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) What does everyone think of a new song maybe for terminator dark fate? on one hand it would be a great way for some exposure but at the same time the producers of the movie wouldn’t want it to overshadow the movie, which it could. Edited April 16, 2019 by megaguns1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 None of us knows anything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, El Guapo said: None of us knows anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dally Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, El Guapo said: None of us knows anything. True, and that’s how this band work this days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post allwaystired Posted April 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2019 8 hours ago, TMAC20 said: As bad as u critics are I hate to think what u are gonna say when the new album drops all this hate for the band what in the hell are u here for anyways Axls voice is toast but I still want s record and we are gonna get 1 - let’s hope with the time off he has seeked help and is near 100 percent A lot things have to happen Who the fuck is gonna be the drummer? Who us gonna produce the album A single album or a double album Can Axl sing or they gonna take his vox from Cd sessions It's not 'hate' though. It's saying that based on years and years of experience, cynicism and skepticism abounds as to whether we will ever hear new material. That's completely natural; you'd have to be some sort of maniac to have been a fan since the 80s/90s and maintain 100 per cent conviction that new music is imminent. You've also got the fact that one of the key players is now saying nothing has happened in interviews. There seems to be two forms of dealing with this: 1) The "things are different now" approach; one that gets touted a lot, but ultimately doesn't bear fruit. The only thing that really seems different to a lot of fans is the players in the band and that Axl seems generally more cheerful. Those alone aren't enough to convince anyone new music is on it's way. 2) Slash is 'keeping things under wraps' and not telling the truth angle. An odd claim to make, as there is seemingly no point to pretending they're not doing anything when they actually are (especially as that's out of keeping with other non-committal comments we've heard for many years about new material). The 'you people aren't fans, what will you say when it happens, you'll have to eat your words' type criticism of fans is ludicrous. People are entirely justified in thinking that new music isn't on its way, as all the evidence points to that being the case. There's no evidence whatsoever to suggest we are months (or even years) away from hearing any new material. It's THAT thinking that is the most absurd. To think it is is disappointment central. People can say "I've still got hope" etc, and I'm in that camp too. I certainly hope to hear new GNR material. But a lot of people are realistic, and are looking at the big picture. I don't think it's fair to claim people aren't fans, or hate the band, because their mindset on new material is operating entirely in the realms of learned experience, evidence and statements rather than fantasy and wild expectations. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, El Guapo said: None of us knows anything. What's to know? They are the most predictable, dull band on the planet. If you can guarantee one thing, it's more touring of the same old songs and no new material. Edited April 16, 2019 by Towelie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.