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20 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Have they told the actual members themselves though? I bet, even though TB knows, they haven't told Axl. Slash and Duff themselves may not be aware of the situation. And based on what's been said earlier it seems that TB has endorsed all of the YouTube takedown stuff? That's my understanding so far.

I don't know of anyone who's contacted Axl, Slash or Duff about it. 

As far as TB goes, what we know for sure is this: the people threatening families say that they are taking action of behalf of TB. TB is aware that's what they're saying and yet they've done nothing. 

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16 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

Have they told the actual members themselves though? I bet, even though TB knows, they haven't told Axl. Slash and Duff themselves may not be aware of the situation. And based on what's been said earlier it seems that TB has endorsed all of the YouTube takedown stuff? That's my understanding so far.

That's what I think. I think it's highly unlikely that TB would report back to Axl or other band members about any fan concerns. They have been known to do the opposite and keep information from him. Not that Axl or other band members would necessarily do anything about the problem even if they were informed.

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17 hours ago, Scream of the Butterfly said:

That's what I think. I think it's highly unlikely that TB would report back to Axl or other band members about any fan concerns. They have been known to do the opposite and keep information from him. Not that Axl or other band members would necessarily do anything about the problem even if they were informed.

If Axl knew about the circus TB is related to the fanbase he would probably fire them

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On 7/13/2019 at 4:11 AM, fanfzero said:

If Axl knew about the circus TB is related to the fanbase he would probably fire them

I highly doubt that. Look in the thread about people wanting to visit band locations. People are talking about visiting Axl’s house.  How often do you think fans drive up to his gate to see the house and hope to see him?  I am willing to bet Axl LIKES that TB takes a hardline approach with fans.  

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8 hours ago, WAR41 said:

I highly doubt that. Look in the thread about people wanting to visit band locations. People are talking about visiting Axl’s house.  How often do you think fans drive up to his gate to see the house and hope to see him?  I am willing to bet Axl LIKES that TB takes a hardline approach with fans.  

That happens with all the famous people, is the price you pay, but hey, he's got a fence and I guess private security, so he has no trouble for his privacy

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14 hours ago, GNRfan2008 said:

I kinda wish the reunion never happened. Tend to think all the YouTube videos would still be available if Axl’s nu-GNR was still around as a casino level band. The censorship of old GN’R material is a very sad deal for the fanbase. 

These people (Alfred & mojo) aren't doing this because GNR reunited. They're doing it for a variety of other reasons, all of which add it to them having nothing better to do. 

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47 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

These people (Alfred & mojo) aren't doing this because GNR reunited. They're doing it for a variety of other reasons, all of which add it to them having nothing better to do. 

 

It all started around the time of the reunion though. I don't believe the timing was pure coincidence. I would not mind them pulling this stuff if they actually released it on DVD/Blu-ray. But since that is not happening and probably will never happen to the extent it SHOULD happen, the YouTube censorship is a huge tragedy for the fanbase and music historians in general. Prime GN'R from 1985 to 1993 is one of the greatest rock bands ever. People should be trying their best to preserve the footage from that time period instead of trying to wipe it from the history books. 

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12 minutes ago, GNRfan2008 said:

 

It all started around the time of the reunion though. I don't believe the timing was pure coincidence. I would not mind them pulling this stuff if they actually released it on DVD/Blu-ray. But since that is not happening and probably will never happen to the extent it SHOULD happen, the YouTube censorship is a huge tragedy for the fanbase and music historians in general. Prime GN'R from 1985 to 1993 is one of the greatest rock bands ever. People should be trying their best to preserve the footage from that time period instead of trying to wipe it from the history books. 

Naw. Warchilds been doing this for years on a smaller scale. After the leaks last year, wfa lost his mind he couldnt view himself as "special" anymore and it got out of control

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6 hours ago, GNRfan2008 said:

 

It all started around the time of the reunion though. I don't believe the timing was pure coincidence. I would not mind them pulling this stuff if they actually released it on DVD/Blu-ray. But since that is not happening and probably will never happen to the extent it SHOULD happen, the YouTube censorship is a huge tragedy for the fanbase and music historians in general. Prime GN'R from 1985 to 1993 is one of the greatest rock bands ever. People should be trying their best to preserve the footage from that time period instead of trying to wipe it from the history books. 

I hear what you're saying but this point below is really accurate:

5 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

Naw. Warchilds been doing this for years on a smaller scale. After the leaks last year, wfa lost his mind he couldnt view himself as "special" anymore and it got out of control

 

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 What I don't quite understand: warchild / mojo was (is?) good friends with msl (and took over his forum), while msl caused a lot of gnr leaks. If warchild / mojo is so concerned about countering leaks, why was this hypocritical friend of msl?

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3 hours ago, wreckless said:

 

 What I don't quite understand: warchild / mojo was (is?) good friends with msl (and took over his forum), while msl caused a lot of gnr leaks. If warchild / mojo is so concerned about countering leaks, why was this hypocritical friend of msl?

Great question! 👍

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On 7/18/2019 at 9:27 AM, wreckless said:

 

 What I don't quite understand: warchild / mojo was (is?) good friends with msl (and took over his forum), while msl caused a lot of gnr leaks. If warchild / mojo is so concerned about countering leaks, why was this hypocritical friend of msl?

Simply put, in his view, leaks/unreleased tracks are ok among his circle of friends, but not the wider fan-base.

On 7/15/2019 at 7:30 PM, ZoSoRose said:

Naw. Warchilds been doing this for years on a smaller scale. After the leaks last year, wfa lost his mind he couldnt view himself as "special" anymore and it got out of control

This is true.  The takedowns used to come from 'UziSuicidalLlc' which is his Twitter handle.

Here is a thread from 5 years ago

Back then, people mistakenly thought Warchild was a girl from Florida.

 

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49 minutes ago, Pele said:

Simply put, in his view, leaks/unreleased tracks are ok among his circle of friends, but not the wider fan-base.

This is true.  The takedowns used to come from 'UziSuicidalLlc' which is his Twitter handle.

 

I think he has a completely different   its not UziSuicidal anymore its still active but I don't think its his main thing anymore

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1 hour ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

I think he has a completely different   its not UziSuicidal anymore its still active but I don't think its his main thing anymore

It's still his Twitter.  He posts Classic Rock articles from it now

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Is the Ritz 1988 uncut still around? I have the (good quality) 1hr 02 min one, and I also had the poorer quality 1hr 06 min uncut one which I grabbed a few months ago from youtube- did anyone else grab this? My file doesn't work now, for some weird reason, and obviously the sad little bullies have removed it from youtube now......

To be clear, it was the proper uncut version I had, and not the one where someone has placed in the audio over static photos. Gutted the file doesn't work anymore. 

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