Kittiara Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, action said: I wasn't aware that management needed a relationship with people other than GNR themselves. what kind of relationship would that be? free cookies and tea each sunday, and free demos for all, from your "best friends" at GNR? when did "thank you" during concerts, stop being enough? (by the way, thank you too Axl!) oh, people want more? fuck that shit. not everyone shares that opinion. How about professionalism? How about, when you sign up to a service related to the band, like their official fan forum, the staff working for the band actually does its job so that when members are subjected to racism, sexism, xenophobia etc, something's done to stop it? I've been a moderator on another forum for 15 years now, and that shit doesn't fly there. You look after your members. That goes when it's a free service, but it's especially expected when it's a paid service and if they don't want to do that, don't offer the service. It's that simple. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 All things considered, it just sucks that the people who love the band the most can't bond with each other over videos of the band on Youtube, which is all we have beyond a box set with 30 year old demos and an album from 2008. And anyone in management who is not a part of the solution, is part of the problem 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueJean Baby Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kittiara said: How about professionalism? How about, when you sign up to a service related to the band, like their official fan forum, the staff working for the band actually does its job so that when members are subjected to racism, sexism, xenophobia etc, something's done to stop it? I've been a moderator on another forum for 15 years now, and that shit doesn't fly there. You look after your members. That goes when it's a free service, but it's especially expected when it's a paid service and if they don't want to do that, don't offer the service. It's that simple. Exactly, paying $40 or $80 to only be abused and condescended to on a daily basis, is not conducive to a good environment. 🤬 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 50 minutes ago, Stress Fracture said: It’s like being a Manchester Utd supporter. I still support that club despite it being run by people who are (1) incompetent and (2) just basically a bunch of utter assholes. they shouldve lost today missing 2 pens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WhazUp said: All things considered, it just sucks that the people who love the band the most can't bond with each other over videos of the band on Youtube, which is all we have beyond a box set with 30 year old demos and an album from 2008. And anyone in management who is not a part of the solution, is part of the problem Don Henley and The Eagles have the same “delete all bootlegs from the internet” policy, but at least with them they have a couple great live albums Edited October 27, 2019 by TheSeeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittiara Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, BlueJean Baby said: Exactly, paying $40 or $80 to only be abused and condescended to on a daily basis, is not conducive to a good environment. 🤬 Yep. It's why I didn't renew my membership there. The environment was toxic. I wasn't subjected to as terrible a treatment as your friend, but did receive nasty comments of a sexist and xenophobic nature and nothing was done about it. I expect better. And what was done to your friend is inexcusable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, TheSeeker said: Don Henley and The Eagles have the same “delete all bootlegs from the internet” policy, but at least with them they have a couple great live albums Oh I didn't know they did this as well. I know Prince himself had a huge love for not allowing any of his music on youtube be it live footage or studio cuts, and even before he died I was saying how many younger fans he was missing out on by not allowing them to discover his music the way they discover new music nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, WhazUp said: Oh I didn't know they did this as well. I know Prince himself had a huge love for not allowing any of his music on youtube be it live footage or studio cuts, and even before he died I was saying how many younger fans he was missing out on by not allowing them to discover his music the way they discover new music nowadays Prince didn’t like not being able to control his catalogue, Henley wants his fans to come to concerts and enjoy the moment Axl’s prerogative? Who the hell knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, TheSeeker said: Axl’s prerogative? Who the hell knows My guess would because of his voice and appearance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 this should be diverted to a fuck dexter thread ? fucker left me outside of vancouver 2002 riot without showing up then imposes a fuck off for some lovely fan Quote 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaya Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoymatic Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/26/2019 at 1:03 PM, ZoSoRose said: Fuck them, Fuck Walker, Fuck Joel, Fuck MSL Reminded me of the end of 2pac “hit em up” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoymatic Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 What actions can we as hardcores take to make this band change how they treat us? If we don’t go to shows they still sell because of all the casuals. Thoughts? 💭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, TheSeeker said: Someone post Axl’s misogynistic rant about Madison Axl’s a sad little man who still lives in a bubble to protect himself from reality The bubble can be penetrated with money, strangely yeah exactly that was way over the line beyond anything done in the forum especially that he would do that himself just goes to show they fucking hate the hand that feeds them funny how on the forums they are so glued to - and the backtracking and or damage control/reverse psychology tries to come into play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Stoymatic said: What actions can we as hardcores take to make this band change how they treat us? If we don’t go to shows they still sell because of all the casuals. Thoughts? 💭 Well, Axl may be rich, but I would never want his life. So I guess I won 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, ZoSoRose said: Well, Axl may be rich, but I would never want his life. So I guess I won exactly they fucked his life up for good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janrichmond Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bozo said: The amount of negativity towards TB it's just beyond any reasonable threshold. And it's been like this for more than a decade. I wonder how much of a xenophobia and sexism has a place in all of this. Sure, things had been handled in a confusing way by their side, but it's always being held this way in GNR camp, whoever was responsible for the management. This relationship with the hardcore fanbase is broken for good. Just let it be. C'mon, there are people importunating the families of band members on their social media. Monitoring their behaviour online. How sick is this? What's the next move? Who am i to say anything, but i strongly believe that the moderators of this forum should start to reconsider this kind of discussions here, or at least set the tone down. Stop spreading hate for fuck sake. If you see a post that's racist please use the report button. We do not condone racism. The negativity towards TB has nothing at all to do with race or sexism. We allow opinions to be shared with others, as long as it's done in a respectful way and not abusive to others who have differing opinions. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said: It was sarcasm, dude. $20 an hour seems low for cleaning your house and raising your kids. You should have more respect instead of mocking her humble holidaying aspirations on the internet. I bet she works hard for that standard pay. How many hours does she work? If for example you had her make the effort to drive all the way out to your place to work for, say 1hour, would you just give her $20? If so, you're a fucking cheapskate. In that kind of situation her payment should be bumped up to save everyone's dignity. If you can afford to pay her more than a standard rate then do so and if you can't maybe show some respect and forgo some personal luxuries so you can. Why do you assume he can?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 @Bozo your name is very fitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: @Bozo your name is very fitting He won't be able to reply for a bit, he's in time out for a week. With all the latest developments, I have even less time to put into defending our forum against people who want to attack it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Derick said: Sorry but the meaning of “facts” over here it’s not necessary the same out there, in the real life. Facts are statements that are undeniable and true. For example, here's a fact: Beta insulted a fan while lying about her knowledge of who is doing the takedowns. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RussTCB said: He won't be able to reply for a bit, he's in time out for a week. With all the latest developments, I have even less time to put into defending our forum against people who want to attack it Utterly insulting for bozo the clown to bring up sexism and xenophobia when loser Fernando and his loser mother are the ones who keep company with openly racist people Edited October 27, 2019 by ZoSoRose 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, ZoSoRose said: Utterly insulting for bozo the clown to bring up sexism and xenophobia when loser Fernando and his loser mother are the ones who keep company with openly racist people Exactly and here's the thing: We (as in the entire fanbase) have tried very hard to be supportive of TB. This forum itself has always tried to work with them. We have NEVER offered to censor the site in any way, but we've always tried to offer ways we could help improve the relationship between the band and it's fan base. Instead of that, the fan base gets repeatedly insulted by GNR (by way of shitty, over priced merch) and directly insulted by Beta and Fernando. How long is the fan base and the forum supposed to grin and bear it? This latest outright lie and insult from Beta seems to be the line in the sand where almost everyone has had enough. As a forum, we've never censored people and we're not about to start now. There is no sexism, racism or xenophobia going on here. Period. There's just people who are trying to be fans of a band but have now drawn a line after being slapped in the face so many times. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 “Management” is the most ass backwards description of this bunch of ass clowns who’s been leeching off of Axl for nearly 30 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: @Fernando bitches that we are racist because we call him Brazilian Is that because he's a bald cunt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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