Pele Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mysteron said: Are you related? Am I related to Warchild? No. Or to MB? either way - no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, Rovim said: But some of us are still fans of this band and want to discuss it in this forum. There are still Gn'R related topics to discuss (latest big one being the leaks for example) The irony being that that is the last thing Guns/TB want us discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteron Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pele said: Am I related to Warchild? No. Or to MB? either way - no! Then, just let it be. It is not ur fight to fight. They still exist and do their thing. It'd be good to hear you talk about other things. Pele the gnr fan or Pele the sports fan. Anything really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, Mysteron said: Then, just let it be. It is not ur fight to fight. They still exist and do their thing. It'd be good to hear you talk about other things. Pele the gnr fan or Pele the sports fan. Anything really With respect, no. I think this guy's behavior needs highlighting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flake Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 10 hours ago, cineater said: You're using me to further your war. I'm asking you to stop the war. How is someone allowed to be a part of this forum who is friends with those psychopaths? Dont get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Again, I don’t get the logic. People who upload shaky cell-phone recordings from gigs and thus promote the band for free are being hunted down, yet selling decades old tapes for thousands of dollars on e-bay is ok? Fuck me if I ever wanted to live in a universe where this is fine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANSAD Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, jamillos said: Again, I don’t get the logic. People who upload shaky cell-phone recordings from gigs and thus promote the band for free are being hunted down, yet selling decades old tapes for thousands of dollars on e-bay is ok? Fuck me if I ever wanted to live in a universe where this is fine. Don't forget that leaking unreleased or to be released stuff will earn you 10K, but posting some innocent self-filmed nugnr short clips will have your channel deleted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 46 minutes ago, jamillos said: Again, I don’t get the logic. People who upload shaky cell-phone recordings from gigs and thus promote the band for free are being hunted down, yet selling decades old tapes for thousands of dollars on e-bay is ok? Fuck me if I ever wanted to live in a universe where this is fine. Copyright law is simply outdated. What you stated is legally acceptable. The band/label has no grounds to demand those tapes be returned and can be sold without their permission. They just can’t be duplicated or distributed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, guitarpatch said: Copyright law is simply outdated. What you stated is legally acceptable. The band/label has no grounds to demand those tapes be returned and can be sold without their permission. They just can’t be duplicated or distributed Perhaps, but I’m talking about some deeper principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just now, jamillos said: Perhaps, but I’m talking about some deeper principles. I believe their principles are pretty consistent across the board now. They don’t want any of that stuff available. I believe they’d demand all of those tapes returned if they were allowed as well We can surely disagree with that stance though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, jamillos said: Perhaps, but I’m talking about some deeper principles. Principles don't exist with these people when it comes to making a quick buck. I think I've said before - I liken these people to the kid at school no one likes who goes to the shop and buys all the packets of stickers, mainly to stop others getting them. He'll happily sell you them at an inflated price though. What that kid never realises though is that rather than making him popular, or the envy of others, everyone just thinks he's a dick and further avoids him.....and they also lose total interest in the stickers altogether. So the kid gets more and more aggressive with people who have a few stickers themselves, perhaps even reporting them to teacher for having them in school. While still trying to sell theirs at school. He might give away one or two stickers to try and inflate his own ego. But ultimately everyone still shuns him, and continues to lose interest in the stickers. It's so pathetic it's unreal. And it's probably pathetic of me to be here posting about it all if I'm being honest with myself! If I didn't come to the forums though, I don't think I'd have any interest in GNR anymore. All I'd be aware of is that I loved them in the 80s/90s, they hadn't done anything for years and years, just did a tour trading heavily on the past, and that was it. It's coming to forums since 2002 that have kept this band my favourite band of all time for sure, hearing stories, learning stuff from people that know things about the history of the band I didn't, and sharing thoughts, despite all the bullshit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted November 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, allwaystired said: Principles don't exist with these people when it comes to making a quick buck. I think I've said before - I liken these people to the kid at school no one likes who goes to the shop and buys all the packets of stickers, mainly to stop others getting them. He'll happily sell you them at an inflated price though. What that kid never realises though is that rather than making him popular, or the envy of others, everyone just thinks he's a dick and further avoids him.....and they also lose total interest in the stickers altogether. So the kid gets more and more aggressive with people who have a few stickers themselves, perhaps even reporting them to teacher for having them in school. While still trying to sell theirs at school. He might give away one or two stickers to try and inflate his own ego. But ultimately everyone still shuns him, and continues to lose interest in the stickers. It's so pathetic it's unreal. And it's probably pathetic of me to be here posting about it all if I'm being honest with myself! If I didn't come to the forums though, I don't think I'd have any interest in GNR anymore. All I'd be aware of is that I loved them in the 80s/90s, they hadn't done anything for years and years, just did a tour trading heavily on the past, and that was it. It's coming to forums since 2002 that have kept this band my favourite band of all time for sure, hearing stories, learning stuff from people that know things about the history of the band I didn't, and sharing thoughts, despite all the bullshit. I'm certain I'd have no interest in GNR if I didn't come to forums. Hell... I help run this place and I'm barely interested in GNR! Lol I've often had that thought of "Wait. If GNR is pathetic these days and I help run a GNR forum, what does that say about me??". I always come back to the fact that I just care about the community, not the band. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Flake said: How is someone allowed to be a part of this forum who is friends with those psychopaths? Dont get it. I kind of wonder that too. I'm mean if they truly believe the narrative they started against me, why don't they throw me out? I don't follow what's happening between these groups. I think it's all childish but they keep trying to suck me into it. I don't know anything, I don't participate in it and I don't want to be in on it. I feel like they do to me what they say these other folks are doing. I'm a pawn here and I know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pele Posted November 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, cineater said: I kind of wonder that too. I'm mean if they truly believe the narrative they started against me, why don't they throw me out? I don't follow what's happening between these groups. I think it's all childish but they keep trying to suck me into it. I don't know anything, I don't participate in it and I don't want to be in on it. I feel like they do to me what they say these other folks are doing. I'm a pawn here and I know it. You're reading too much into it. Fact is, if anyone goes to Mojo's (Warchild's) forum now, and look at the chatbox in the homepage - they will see it has only been populated by 2 people in the last 2 months. You and Mojo (Warchild). Then if you enter the main forum, there are effectively 3 members left. Mojo (Warchild), Contemptible and you. I think people just wonder what the hell you're playing at to be honest. Your participation keeps his site running. Without you, he'd be talking to himself. Either you are fine about this guys behavior - or you don't believe us. Worth pointing out - even Tiffany (the person who bought it from MSL) and appointed him as admin has completely washed her hands with it. Edited November 30, 2019 by Pele 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Guys and gals, I realize that this entire situation sucks and there's nothing but justifiable vitriol for those responsible, but let's cool the fuck yous and fuck offs for now. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, downzy said: Guys and gals, I realize that this entire situation sucks and there's nothing but justifiable vitriol for those responsible, but let's cool the fuck yous and fuck offs for now. Thanks. Thank you. I don't want to be in this either. Happy Holidays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 If TB doesnt want forums to exist and have all discussions via the bands social media, can TB send this site some sort of a cease and desist order in an attempt to close down all forums?. Do TB "care" about any fan comments via their social media rather than forums like these?. All i can say is that the way SMKC manage social media and the way they communicate to their fans is so much more professipnal than GNR management. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FRANSAD Posted December 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: To those in the US, happy thanksgiving. 1 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Well, the guy doing the strikes is now attacking people on twitter for politics now. So maybe he will leave us alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 11:43 PM, Gibsonfender2323 said: Well, the guy doing the strikes is now attacking people on twitter for politics now. So maybe he will leave us alone Got a link to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 1:06 PM, Pele said: Your participation keeps his site running. Without you, he'd be talking to himself. To be fair, he's done that before. He used to have his own little private forum full of sock puppets that were clearly all orchestrated by one person, and he'd carry on conversations with himself in an attempt to make it look as if multiple users were online. This wasn't too long after her cyber-bullied me when I was underage (it started when I was about 14 or 15 and literally continues to this day. I'm now 31). To quote Buzz Lightyear: a sad, strange little man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Estranged Reality said: To quote Buzz Lightyear: a sad, strange little man. Geri's Game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Estranged Reality said: To be fair, he's done that before. He used to have his own little private forum full of sock puppets that were clearly all orchestrated by one person, and he'd carry on conversations with himself in an attempt to make it look as if multiple users were online. This wasn't too long after her cyber-bullied me when I was underage (it started when I was about 14 or 15 and literally continues to this day. I'm now 31). To quote Buzz Lightyear: a sad, strange little man. Which one was that ER? I remember him on GNR International with FaridBak Madness isn't it - to think this guy started this on GNROnline when he was still in his 20's!!!! Most of his adult life, he's pretended to be this edgy character from LA!! In reality, he's been in Mobile Homes in Tuscaloosa and Northport Alabama! Edited December 6, 2019 by Pele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 49 minutes ago, Pele said: Which one was that ER? I remember him on GNR International with FaridBak Madness isn't it - to think this guy started this on GNROnline when he was still in his 20's!!!! Most of his adult life, he's pretended to be this edgy character from LA!! In reality, he's been in Mobile Homes in Tuscaloosa and Northport Alabama! oh, hi Mojo, good to see you here thanks for sending takedown to that funny aXXL vid! too bad it was mirrored and kept spreading further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 IDK if this was posted already, it's quite old but has a lot of interesting insights on the takedowns subject. Ofc GNR gets a mention too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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