Len Cnut Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 11 hours ago, RussTCB said: Was just coming to post this. What a dbag. If you don't like GNR, good for you. But to write a whole article about you not liking them? That's just a weird move. No its not, critics have been doing it since day dot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientEvil80 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Why are you guys still rewarding fucking journalists and mags by paying any attention to whatever they do/say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 He or she makes some good points and its mostly a humourous article too if you look at it, not exactly a substantial analysis and not meant to be so uh, to quote ol' ginger bollocks, take it for what it is Really not that big a deal, every band from The Beatles to The Stones to The Sex Pistols get such articles written about them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek1985 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Wow, what a clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Nygma Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, Creed said: i doñt want to read the article, but i guess the writer was complaining about the fat redhead who destroyed a great band because of his ego? well, than hes right That's a tiny part of the article. The rest of the article is pretty ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Len Cnut said: He or she makes some good points and its mostly a humourous article too if you look at it, not exactly a substantial analysis and not meant to be so uh, to quote ol' ginger bollocks, take it for what it is Really not that big a deal, every band from The Beatles to The Stones to The Sex Pistols get such articles written about them. I agree wholeheartedly. Nothing to be miffed about. I chuckled at times. And I find some of the criticism in that article more valid than the usual "managed by housekeeper" crap we get from fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJean Baby Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: I think it's a wonderful article. Well written and on-point. Anyone who can't see that isn't woke enough. Just kidding of course. It pleases me seeing so many hate SJW douchebags like this guy. Lol....had me going for a second there....thought you had gone to the dark side 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, BlueJean Baby said: Lol....had me going for a second there....thought you had gone to the dark side 🤣 Me too until read @Oldest Goatcomplete post. I know he always give satisfaction . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: I think it's a wonderful article. Well written and on-point. Anyone who can't see that isn't woke enough. Just kidding of course. It pleases me seeing so many hate SJW douchebags like this guy. Holy crap. You had me for a minute there too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Although the racism in One In A Million is mentioned, the writer doesn't really criticise GN'R so much for being racists or sexists, but more for being bloated, overindulgent to the point of parody, and having badly written lyrics. It is an echo of the criticism levelled at the band in the 90s when alternative acts like Nirvana became popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic_GnR_Fan Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Quote By the end of the second chorus, Mikey—more of a Replacements guy, just like me—turned to me and, right in time with the music, sang “I wanna watch you sneeze!” Add this to the things that never happened list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Although the racism in One In A Million is mentioned, the writer doesn't really criticise GN'R so much for being racists or sexists, but more for being bloated, overindulgent to the point of parody, and having badly written lyrics. It is an echo of the criticism levelled at the band in the 90s when alternative acts like Nirvana became popular. Bands that embody archetypes, looking through the right lens, are all corny to a point, aren't they? I mean even my VERY favourite bands, in the post modern era where everything is familiar you sort of have a situation where, if you're looking for it, most genre work is kinda atypical. The antedote I suppose is to concentrate on feeling and fuck the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 They are out of vogue, and have been so for a long time. Doesn't really upset me in any way. I like them nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I'm not gonna read the article but I bet it doesn't say anything that hasn't been said on the forum before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrph5 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 This guy hates GNR. Just another blow hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Although the racism in One In A Million is mentioned, the writer doesn't really criticise GN'R so much for being racists or sexists, but more for being bloated, overindulgent to the point of parody, and having badly written lyrics. It is an echo of the criticism levelled at the band in the 90s when alternative acts like Nirvana became popular. Yeah, thats the article I read too. 3 hours ago, Len Cnut said: He or she makes some good points and its mostly a humourous article too if you look at it, not exactly a substantial analysis and not meant to be so uh, to quote ol' ginger bollocks, take it for what it is Really not that big a deal, every band from The Beatles to The Stones to The Sex Pistols get such articles written about them. *gasp!!* Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the neo-marxist-postmodernist conspiracy seeking to disallow people from liking things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, soon said: Yeah, thats the article I read too. *gasp!!* Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the neo-marxist-postmodernist conspiracy seeking to disallow people from liking things? I'm their fuckin' treasurer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 It's funny that when he does try to compliment the band by calling them "a very tight band and virtuosic musicians", he's still wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, EvanG said: It's funny that when he does try to compliment the band by calling them "a very tight band and virtuosic musicians", he's still wrong. When you're a Replacements fan (as I am) they are fuckin' virtuosos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Len Cnut said: When you're a Replacements fan (as I am) they are fuckin' virtuosos Alex Chilton would agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 It's got nothing to do with SJW or being woke, it's just some music critic who's too full of himself whining because other bands that he likes aren't on the bill and criticizing GnR over stupid things. In posting this article he just showed us what an idiot he is. And it's Esquire, what do you expect? Axl Slash and Duff are the ones playing on stage making millions, he's not. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsapple Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Even though I do not agree with the author, I can somewhat see where this article is coming from - or at least I'm trying to see that. As a fan of GNR it's easy and comfortable for me to understand how one could love the band and their music. But I can also see why one would not like it. But then why write about them? Why doesn't the author even try and hook me onto a fresh and intesting new artist from his generation or taste instead of taking the piss on a beloved band of mine for the sake of taking a piss? It's not even reflective, progressive or funny, just a waste of time and energy. I'm not a fan of Metallica, but that doesn't mean I hate them. It's just that I could easily think of a million better topics to write an article about. I don't think anything I could say or write about Metallica would make sense or have any value. I don't care for them, I don't understand them and I don't have enough interest in them to wrap my head around their art enough to come up with an article of any substance. That's why I'm not writing articles about Metallica. But hey that's just me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlreed44 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 what a dickbag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I'm not a fan of this school of "smartass" journalism that has thrived mostly in pop culture journalism. I don't find it challenging or funny. But maybe it's just me lacking the sense of humour to appreciate it. Like in music, for example, when they try to apply smartass logic to pop/rock lyrics. And I don't think this guy even does it well. I've seen the line "reminds me of childhood memories" being mocked somewhere else, and at least there was a point there (memories contain reminding, so how can you be reminded of memories?) Now, this: Quote It’s 28 years too late to ask this question, but I must: What is it about rain at any time of year that makes a candle more difficult to hold? Hard to light I will grant you, but do candles become slippery in rain? Maybe I'm thick because I've never thought about or questioned this line (or thought that there was anything worth thinking). I just took it as given that it means to hold a lit candle, as a very simple (and not very imaginative) metaphor for troubled relationships, because there's no purpose of holding an unlit candle anywhere except for when you're about to light it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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