Popular Post History2010 Posted May 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2019 8 hours ago, sidman69 said: looking forward to your channel. Frankly you don't deserve much more of a response as you're not worth my time. Wow, surprised to see you act like such an ass in response to constructive criticism. Do your research or expect to get called out when you make a video with false information. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chest Burster Posted May 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) An alternate but semi-related subject that you examined once was in what you entitled, "The True Story Behind Rapidfire! Axl Rose's First Recordings!" I am a fan of Rapidfire. Saw its website years ago, hoped for the recordings to be released for forever, it seemed, and I've followed their Facebook page for years since before Kevin Lawrence died. I chatted with him many times on there, too, and he was totally cool and told me stories, etc, and he also shared his lawyer's long explanatory paper (you said, "essay," and that is more appropriate, I'll admit) about the band and its then legal situation, so I learned a ton, I feel, about Kevin's band and his experiences with Axl. Within the first minute of the "True Story" about them, a falsehood is uttered. It states that Kevin and Axl formed the band in 1983. Not even lying books like Mick Wall's make claims like that, so I can only assume this assumption came from a Wikipedia gander, and even on there it didn't present anything of the such. So it can only be presumed that the comment was a thoughtless fabrication. Kevin Lawrence formed his band long before he ever met Axl (or Bill, if technicalities feel needed). Kevin was the lead singer, as well as the songwriter and the guitar player, and they performed before the Indiana kid stepped up to the mike. The next, quickly following lie is that the band broke up after its recording, which by the way, wasn't an EP of five songs. They recorded four songs, and they were for their demo tape. Kevin didn't describe it as an EP until just before he wanted to release the songs on CD. The band did not break up after the ex-midwesterner left them. Kevin resumed his lead singing spot and remained there for years, eventually changing the band name to Kevin Lawrence in 1985 for simplicity purposes. If anyone misses those erroneous break-up remarks in a viewing, fortunately contradictions emerge in Rapidfire's "True Story Behind" it, stating and showing how only four songs were made and that the objective was a "demo" and not an EP. Fortunately also, Kevin did several interviews, one of which MAXIM Magazine conducted. It is then read for the "True Story", and can also be read by anyone searching on Google for Kevin Lawrence and scrolling for a bit till it's seen. The ignorance again resumes after the MAXIM reading is finished and the probable Wikipedia referencing kicks back into gear. Rapidfire did not record another EP. They recorded another demo tape, which was, in 2015, released as the band's 2nd EP, named "Afterburner". Also, Kevin Lawrence was 52 years old, not 51, when he died, as is stated in the "True Story" of his band, but as that miscalculation was mindlessly made by Metal Sludge and no one else cared to inquire, his birth year suddenly changed in pubic knowledge. "Hey, Kevin - You were never as old as 52, according to rock news sites and True Stories," I shout. That exact detail about Rapidfire isn't too readily available is an understandable reality, but to assume to add to the True Story series a piece so half-assedly constructed is just ludicrous, I feel. So this was another reason why I was obliged to speak my mind about the Ole Bech Story made by his most recent Truthsayer. Edited May 7, 2019 by Chest Burster 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted May 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2019 Also, when there is research or sources in the videos lifted from somewhere else, it would be right to credit them, which doesn't happen sometimes. For example, most, if not all, of the research in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vf3kb-ydLo is lifted from the comments in this thread: http://www.a-4-d.com/t540-1991-09-dd-spin-guns-n-neuroses-axl 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 hours ago, janrichmond said: Where's Axl Guys, its not a bass... Hes holding a Les Paul. No idea who the guy is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, default_ said: Guys, its not a bass... Hes holding a Les Paul. No idea who the guy is. Yeah, seems to be Izzys Black Beauty? And an Axl style headscarf. This pic actually came up not too long ago on here and someone knew the answer and others concurred. IIRC they said that it was a guy from the bootleg record company. That he featured a pic of himself on every bootleg he released. As a running joke. But I cant remember who it is. And I cant remember who knew - actually I wouldve figured it was one of you who already responded about it! Who else has all the Guns knowledge? I just rolled out of bed, so hopefully it comes to me. @NeonKinight was it you who knew about the guy on the bootleg LP pictures above? Sorry to put you on the spot so randomly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 @soon maybe Ludirigan? He is really knowledgeable about GnR bootlegs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: @soon maybe Ludirigan? He is really knowledgeable about GnR bootlegs. Yeah, that sounds right too! @ludurigan @zombux @Gordon Comstock are all kinda ringing a bell. Theres so many super knowledgeable people, but these 4 names keep coming to mind about this picture, lol. (any of you know who's in the picture on the LP posted above?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Slash kinda died once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Chest Burster said: An alternate but semi-related subject that you examined once was in what you entitled, "The True Story Behind Rapidfire! Axl Rose's First Recordings!" I am a fan of Rapidfire. Saw its website years ago, hoped for the recordings to be released for forever, it seemed, and I've followed their Facebook page for years since before Kevin Lawrence died. I chatted with him many times on there, too, and he was totally cool and told me stories, etc, and he also shared his lawyer's long explanatory paper (you said, "essay," and that is more appropriate, I'll admit) about the band and its then legal situation, so I learned a ton, I feel, about Kevin's band and his experiences with Axl. Dear ol' Kevin , I miss him because I used to talk to him over Facebook for long long hours at night, when he was feeling sad and me too. What you say it is correct, he's told me the same things and many other stories.... he was really cool guy, even when I was an asshole sometimes, lol.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 @soon It's mentioned on here, by you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, janrichmond said: @soon It's mentioned on here, by you Oh right And then it was @Nikki_Sixx who had some great info about it!!! Its below on that same page. My memory was a bit off as I suspected, but the info Sixx provided about that picture is really great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 7 hours ago, killuridols said: Dear ol' Kevin , I miss him because I used to talk to him over Facebook for long long hours at night, when he was feeling sad and me too. What you say it is correct, he's told me the same things and many other stories.... he was really cool guy, even when I was an asshole sometimes, lol.... How did he die? I read some articles about his death but they didn't specify the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, lame ass security said: How did he die? I read some articles about his death but they didn't specify the cause. Massive heart attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, killuridols said: Massive heart attack Ok, thanks, I was just curious. He seemed like a good guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, lame ass security said: Ok, thanks, I was just curious. He seemed like a good guy. Yes, though I think he was in a depressive phase a few months before he passed away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonKinight Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 On 07/05/2019 at 9:02 AM, soon said: Yeah, seems to be Izzys Black Beauty? And an Axl style headscarf. This pic actually came up not too long ago on here and someone knew the answer and others concurred. IIRC they said that it was a guy from the bootleg record company. That he featured a pic of himself on every bootleg he released. As a running joke. But I cant remember who it is. And I cant remember who knew - actually I wouldve figured it was one of you who already responded about it! Who else has all the Guns knowledge? I just rolled out of bed, so hopefully it comes to me. @NeonKinight was it you who knew about the guy on the bootleg LP pictures above? Sorry to put you on the spot so randomly! nah dude. Tks anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Creed said: How do you come to this conclusion? Which songs did he play in his only show? Ole is most probably responsible for Bill Baileys choice to call himself Axl, since Ole's father was named Aksel. But thats it. And that alone contributes more compared to Paul Huge who had ruined the old band. Edited May 8, 2019 by ©GnrPersia 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Creed said: How do you come to this conclusion? Which songs did he play in his only show? Ole is most probably responsible for Bill Baileys choice to call himself Axl, since Ole's father was named Aksel. But thats it. Ole didn't play any shows with the band and "Axl" came from a band Axl was in, the name originated with Axl's Indiana friends and Izzy suggested Axl should adopt the name for himself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Ole didn't play any shows with the band and "Axl" came from a band Axl was in, the name originated with Axl's Indiana friends and Izzy suggested Axl should adopt the name for himself. I thought the Indiana band both Axl and Izzy were in was called Axl and when the band broke up Axl decided to continue to use the name for himself. Something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, vloors said: I thought the Indiana band both Axl and Izzy were in was called Axl and when the band broke up Axl decided to continue to use the name for himself. Something along those lines. Yes, that seems to be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Yes, that seems to be correct. Hahaha sorry i was supposed to reply to the fella above @Creed Just noticed you said the exact same thing anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Here's from my ongoing work on the history of GN'R: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikute91 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I've always wondered how they came up with the band name Axl. Is it in reference to someone/something or do the letters stand for anything... Anybody knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, vikute91 said: I've always wondered how they came up with the band name Axl. Is it in reference to someone/something or do the letters stand for anything... Anybody knows? Axl talked about that in MTV Rockumentary, if I'm correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Regarding Axl and Rapidfire, it should probably be mentioned that Marc Canter, who is widely -- and deservedly -- recognized as an extremely reliable source on early GN'R, states in Reckless Road that Axl started Rapidfire. So one can understand if this is considered a fact among GN'R fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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