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On 19/05/2019 at 1:09 AM, lame ass security said:

Wow, I wasn't aware of that, very cool.

Nor was I.

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3 hours ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said:

Yes, I'd recommend it; it's full of surprises, and ups and downs. I'm about the same age as Moby and also had the same musical tastes, although I didn't get into dance until 1994, as the rock I liked was mostly being killed off by grunge (some of which I liked, but found depressing!); Moby's 'Feeling So Real' was my favourite dance tune of the time, so it was interesting to read how he got there, while I'd been unaware! It had the energy I liked in metal, and was more uplifting than grunge! I think I was bipolar then, but didn't know about it, thinking manic depressive meant really depressed!!

 

This track is so uplifting and energizing!! I could skip my coffee after a listen! Hadn't heard this type of thing from him either. Im getting the picture that he's done whatever style he wanted over the years. I really respect that. Will definiiltey read it.

And the epic sub bass on this track maybe helped Axl fall in love with sub bass. Tickles my brain a bit!

I can see how this track wold hit the spot for you at that point in time!

3 hours ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said:

Moby was from a dysfunctional working-class family and wrote of always looking for true love, so maybe Axl related to that too, if he knew about it. Moby can come across as a bit of an arrogant self-obsessed liberal city geek diva at times too, after settling in New York, so there is a negative side - maybe Axl saw that side and thought Moby was talking down to him ('Where's the vocals') etc, and that's why he doesn't speak to him?

Ironically, Axl's 'self-obsession' is apparently a reason lots of people don't have time for him!?

Well said. Im sure a lot of those factors were in play in their relationship. Axl is a millionaire who still has the vibe of a small town worker. Im surprised to learn Moby isnt from blue blood. I could definitely imagine class identity making Axl feel talked down to in that specific way.

Haha, Axl is a complex person!

3 hours ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said:

He had some hardcore punk friends and liked it, but is mainly vegan from a love of animals - had to fight his family for his beliefs, trying to coax him to eat meat etc.

It's the only part of straight-edge he's stuck to.

He gave up alcohol for a while, but went back to that big time. 

He also went out with lots of groupies, escorts and strippers, LA Metal style.

He was also a regular on the NY alternative scene, including a funny description of a glam/cross-dressing  club night, where everybody dresses up as Stevie Nicks!

I see. He's like a culture chameleon! I thought he was for sure a T-tottaler, but dude parties?! 

The groupies and strippers is the most shocking part for me. He sounds a lot like Lars Ulrich. Crazy stuff!

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4 hours ago, soon said:

This track is so uplifting and energizing!! I could skip my coffee after a listen! Hadn't heard this type of thing from him either. Im getting the picture that he's done whatever style he wanted over the years. I really respect that. Will definiiltey read it.

And the epic sub bass on this track maybe helped Axl fall in love with sub bass. Tickles my brain a bit!

I can see how this track wold hit the spot for you at that point in time!

Well said. Im sure a lot of those factors were in play in their relationship. Axl is a millionaire who still has the vibe of a small town worker. Im surprised to learn Moby isnt from blue blood. I could definitely imagine class identity making Axl feel talked down to in that specific way.

Haha, Axl is a complex person!

I see. He's like a culture chameleon! I thought he was for sure a T-tottaler, but dude parties?! 

The groupies and strippers is the most shocking part for me. He sounds a lot like Lars Ulrich. Crazy stuff!

Moby dad died when he is 2 years old, cause he crash his car while was drunk.

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moby is a fucktard. not cuz axl wont talk to him. hes just fuckin weird. too many hellucagenics will do that to you i guess... and although i think he woulda fit in with the sideshow which included buckethead and fincks reverse mullet, im kinda glad he wasnt involved in CD, because it woulda made it even harder for gnr to recover from that album than it already was

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9 hours ago, Hollywood Gunner said:

moby is a fucktard. not cuz axl wont talk to him. hes just fuckin weird. too many hellucagenics will do that to you i guess... and although i think he woulda fit in with the sideshow which included buckethead and fincks reverse mullet, im kinda glad he wasnt involved in CD, because it woulda made it even harder for gnr to recover from that album than it already was

As childish as this is gonna sound you gotta have one eye on coolness, Moby was never fuckin' cool. 

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1 hour ago, Len Cnut said:

As childish as this is gonna sound you gotta have one eye on coolness, Moby was never fuckin' cool. 

And he looks like he has a micro-penis. You know how with some guys ya just know?

Same goes for guys with big schlongs. You just know Steven Tyler and Lenny Kravitz are packing it, the same way you know you'd need a magnified glass to see Moby's.

Apologies Len, was this insensitive of me?

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40 minutes ago, Towelie said:

And he looks like he has a micro-penis. You know how with some guys ya just know?

Same goes for guys with big schlongs. You just know Steven Tyler and Lenny Kravitz are packing it, the same way you know you'd need a magnified glass to see Moby's.

Apologies Len, was this insensitive of me?

Nah, it warmed me up an added half an inch for a second :lol:  Absolutely spot on about the micro penis too :lol:  He’s got that vegetarian fraggle look about him.

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Anyone who plays lame acoustic covers with Steve Jones is cool in my book. Fuck you all.

 

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13 minutes ago, Edward Nygma said:

Yes, just saw that on MSN. Didn't know about the new memoir - certainly has publicised it!

While I support the new feminist movement in general, this sounds like a difference of opinion - Natalie might have thought they were just friends, while Moby thought there was more to it. Fair enough of her to clarify how she saw it, but bit much to call him creepy for it.

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2 minutes ago, EvanG said:

Anyone who plays lame acoustic covers with Steve Jones is cool in my book. Fuck you all.

 

Moby certainly kept to the artistic genius playing what he wants role, going against what the record companies wanted. His Animal Rights punk/metal album was evidence of that too. 

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9 minutes ago, EvanG said:

Anyone who plays lame acoustic covers with Steve Jones is cool in my book. Fuck you all.

 

Play Freebird!!!!!!!!!!!

@11:50 :lol:

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1 hour ago, default_ said:

We know we are fucked when the main thread subject on a bands forum is Mobys micro penis.

I'm proud to have lowered the bar to that standard. 

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3 hours ago, EvanG said:

Anyone who plays lame acoustic covers with Steve Jones is cool in my book. Fuck you all.

 

I didn’t know you liked Steve Jones, you’ve risen in my estimation.  Not that you were low before, you’ve just shot upwards.

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8 hours ago, Original said:

Similar on MSN: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/moby-claims-he-dated-natalie-portman-but-natalie-portman-and-basic-facts-say-hes-wrong/ar-AABMx1o?ocid=spartanntp

In the Porcelain memoir Moby is candid about his insecurities and uncomfortableness with women, making himself out to be a 'loser', as he does with Portman, although he did write he ditched a first love who seemed right for him.

He's not claiming a 'Dirt' style relationship with Portman, and if it was her that initiated the meeting she shouldn't be complaining about creepiness - unless she only saw their liaison as totally and definitely platonic, and made that clear. 

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Moby is a guy that used to hold his dick against people while standing beside them to see if they would notice... I believe Natalie on this.

I was at a festival where he got in a fight with a journalist about something. Actually throwing punches.

He actually stood at the mixing desk watching my then band tho. My mum was happy. Ha ha.

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I read Moby's response to this and he stays very respectful towards Portman but says that they did briefly date. Who to believe? I have no idea, nor do I really care. But it's funny to me that people immediately pick a side even though they don't know either of them.

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It's funny how they both haven't changed a lot, I take it this was taken in the 90's.

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Who gives a shit about Moby or Natalie Portman in 2019? It's just free publicity for both and she's probably just helping him out to push his book a little. Maybe he'll return the favour with some music for one of her films and that's that, business as usual. Either that or she's jumping on the metoo wagon since she wasn't in any remarkable film since "Heat" a mere 25 years ago.

As far as Moby's involvement with GNR goes, I'm glad he didn't get to work much on any tracks. He's way overrated and too generic and his passive agressive snowflake PC talk whenever he opens his mouth doesn't make him any cooler.

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If a teenager felt creepy vibes off of a 30 year old, that makes perfect sense to me. Not all youth are equipped to navigate those relationships - they're in over their heads from the jump. Seems entirely plausible that she felt creeped out. Especially in that pic - Moby's got full on Terry Richards vibes there! If Moby did have designs that she wasn't into, Im glad that they were both able to walk away.

Maybe Im a bad person because as Im reading about her unfortunate account all I can think of while seeing her in that "milk fed" shirt is "yeah you are." :wub: And also I'd want her to be holding her Star Wars blaster :lol:

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