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6 hours ago, EvanG said:

I read Moby's response to this and he stays very respectful towards Portman but says that they did briefly date. Who to believe? I have no idea, nor do I really care. But it's funny to me that people immediately pick a side even though they don't know either of them.

seem the media want imply of kind abuse of Moby toward's Portman ....

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2 hours ago, Azifwekare said:

I'm sorry, is everyone just going to ignore the fact that Moby "knob-touched" Donald Trump?

"Ooh Lordy, I touched Trump with my knob / Ooooh Lordy, I touched trump with my knob / Don't nobody know I touched Trump with my knob...."

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3 hours ago, soon said:

If a teenager felt creepy vibes off of a 30 year old, that makes perfect sense to me. Not all youth are equipped to navigate those relationships - they're in over their heads from the jump. Seems entirely plausible that she felt creeped out. Especially in that pic - Moby's got full on Terry Richards vibes there! If Moby did have designs that she wasn't into, Im glad that they were both able to walk away.

Maybe Im a bad person because as Im reading about her unfortunate account all I can think of while seeing her in that "milk fed" shirt is "yeah you are." :wub: And also I'd want her to be holding her Star Wars blaster :lol:

That picture is disgusting, ugh :vomit:

It is very plausible that Moby was a creep to women but that doesn't take away his weird working experience with Axl, who is also a women abuser and asshole in general, so...? :shrugs:

Will never understand why every time some artist is not licking the ass of Rose, fans will try to put that person down for whatever reasons, trying to invalidate what they say or their own personal experiences with another artist.

 

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I have articles from that period when it was reported that Moby was working with Axl, and GN’R. And Moby was quoted saying something like “they’re working with loops, and doing it better than anyone else is”

An odd quote, but Moby was praising Axl and GN’R for what they were doing musically while he was there with them.

I’ll see if I can dig the articles up and transcribe exactly what was written.

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14 hours ago, killuridols said:

Will never understand why every time some artist is not licking the ass of Rose, fans will try to put that person down for whatever reasons, trying to invalidate what they say or their own personal experiences with another artist.

Seriously? Is that hard to you understand why in a GN’R diehard forum that kinda of things happens? I hope that you actually was trying to say that fans defending Mr. Rose or just the fact that some diehards don’t buy that easy every shitty that pops up against him annoys you AF. But hey..don’t worry we already know that .:lol:

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7 hours ago, metallex78 said:

I have articles from that period when it was reported that Moby was working with Axl, and GN’R. And Moby was quoted saying something like “they’re working with loops, and doing it better than anyone else is”

An odd quote, but Moby was praising Axl and GN’R for what they were doing musically while he was there with them.

I’ll see if I can dig the articles up and transcribe exactly what was written.

He's quoted saying it in this 1997 MTV article, too:

http://www.mtv.com/news/1429822/moby-and-axl-rose-producing-pals/

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2 hours ago, Derick said:

Seriously? Is that hard to you understand why in a GN’R diehard forum that kinda of things happens? I hope that you actually was trying to say that fans defending Mr. Rose or just the fact that some diehards don’t buy that easy every shitty that pops up against him annoys you AF. But hey..don’t worry we already know that .:lol:

And this is not even what happened in this thread. Most of the discussion was irrelevant to the OP, Axl and what Moby said (which he had said before and most fans here knew it). It developed into a thread about people's opinions on Moby as an artist and as a persona, whether they like his music and think he's cool or not.

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I saw Moby live twice (one during his Animal Rights/rock phase) in festivals in the '90s and it was very enjoyable. I was surprised that he was such a good live act.

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8 hours ago, Derick said:

Seriously? Is that hard to you understand why in a GN’R diehard forum that kinda of things happens? I hope that you actually was trying to say that fans defending Mr. Rose or just the fact that some diehards don’t buy that easy every shitty that pops up against him annoys you AF. But hey..don’t worry we already know that .:lol:

Pff...

More like it bores me to death and makes me feel sorry for their immature reaction. The majority of GN'R fans are people 35+.

There's nothing to defend Axl about. No one fucking cares whether fans believe or not believe what other artists or co-workers say about him, because fans will never be there to have a work relationship with Axl.

Moby just responded why he thinks Axl doesn't talk to him anymore. There's nothing to be validated or invalidated about that by anyone else but Moby (and Axl, obviously).

That was his personal experience with Rose and also his opinion or his version of how things happened. Maybe Axl has a different version of the story, but we won't know until he speaks. In the meantime, digging in Moby's life to highlight his sexual past or make fun of his 'micro-penis' is pretty silly and immature. More suitable to a junior high classroom than a forum for adult fans of a band.

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3 hours ago, killuridols said:

Pff...

More like it bores me to death and makes me feel sorry for their immature reaction. The majority of GN'R fans are people 35+.

There's nothing to defend Axl about. No one fucking cares whether fans believe or not believe what other artists or co-workers say about him, because fans will never be there to have a working relationship with Axl.

Moby just responded why he thinks Axl doesn't talk to him anymore. There's nothing to be validated or invalidated about that by anyone else but Moby (and Axl, obviously).

That was his personal experience with Rose and also his opinion or his version of how things happened. Maybe Axl has a different version of the story, but we won't know until he speaks. In the meantime, digging in Moby's life to highlight his sexual past or make fun of his 'micro-penis' is pretty silly and immature. More suitable to a junior high classroom than a forum for adult fans of a band.

You said penis, cool.

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22 hours ago, Blackstar said:

And this is not even what happened in this thread. Most of the discussion was irrelevant to the OP, Axl and what Moby said (which he had said before and most fans here knew it). It developed into a thread about people's opinions on Moby as an artist and as a persona, whether they like his music and think he's cool or not.

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I saw Moby live twice (one during his Animal Rights/rock phase) in festivals in the '90s and it was very enjoyable. I was surprised that he was such a good live act.

I saw Moby at Glastonbury 2000 and it was sensational, playing the Play (play Play noticed) album stuff at/after sunset on a warm evening.

I don't remember this track, just seeing it by chance on YouTube, but it's pretty rocking, and has a GNR Bond song connection:

 

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Irrespective of the rights or wrongs the whole story is a rather desperate bit of attention seeking from Moby.

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Indeed. Gotta fill the pages somehow, I guess, when you have multiple memoirs. He's writing his own biopic!

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9 hours ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said:

I don't remember this track, just seeing it by chance on YouTube, but it's pretty rocking, and has a GNR Bond song connection:

Yeah, I remember the James Bond theme. He did in '98, too - that was the second time I saw him. He also did a sped-up less than a minute version of Paranoid.

The first time was in '96. I had gone to that festival for Iggy Pop mostly and some of the other bands and I didn't care about Moby, but he was a pleasant surprise.

Anyway, I'm very happy now because while looking for a video of Moby from that '96 festival, I found an audio from Iggy's performance there.

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1 hour ago, soon said:

Indeed. Gotta fill the pages somehow, I guess, when you have multiple memoirs. He's writing his own biopic!

People actually care about this guy enough to see a biopic about him?

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46 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

People actually care about this guy enough to see a biopic about him?

Oh, I should have been more clear, sorry. I meant to say that since he's 50 and has more than one memoir its like thats what he's gunning for. Or like it wouldnt surprise me if he were writing his own biopic given all the memoirs.

Im also learning that Moby's more popular than I thought, though.

 

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13 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Yeah, I remember the James Bond theme. He did in '98, too - that was the second time I saw him. He also did a sped-up less than a minute version of Paranoid.

The first time was in '96. I had gone to that festival for Iggy Pop mostly and some of the other bands and I didn't care about Moby, but he was a pleasant surprise.

Anyway, I'm very happy now because while looking for a video of Moby from that '96 festival, I found an audio from Iggy's performance there.

After loving Feeling So Real I didn't care that much about the rest of Moby's stuff (bit like grunge with Pearl Jam's Alive and the Nirvana hits) until 1999's Play album (bit like hearing the Mother Love Bone with grunge) sparked an interest again, so 2000 was a great time for me to see him. 

Iggy would have been a good festival show for me, although I don't love his stuff or any songs, I like it, and he is a legend with what looks like an amazing stage show. 

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11 hours ago, soon said:

Oh, I should have been more clear, sorry. I meant to say that since he's 50 and has more than one memoir its like thats what he's gunning for. Or like it wouldnt surprise me if he were writing his own biopic given all the memoirs.

Im also learning that Moby's more popular than I thought, though.

 

Moby's life is full of biopic type stuff, from a famous ancestor to the poor childhood with a hippy mother, who was very creative but didn't feel she'd achieved.

Moby crossed styles as he felt, and crossed the country touring; and as he achieved some success flew into the UK's height of the rave scene.

He's quite introverted and always self-analysing, so a biopic would be quite interesting. I imagine it could be filled with lots of thought sequences, natural scenery and nice animals.

His veganism has become normalised now, so it would probably be interesting to the new generation of vegans. 

I don't think Moby's as big as Freddie Mercury or Elton John yet, but I guess is about the same as Motley Crue - I nearly wrote, 'but for very different audiences'; well, I did actually, so I've left it in; before remembering Moby's a Crue fan, but don't think many Crue fans are Moby fans, but may be wrong, for I am one!

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After writing the two posts above I read a further instalment in the Moby-Natalie media tiff: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/moby-apologises-to-natalie-portman-and-says-he-wasnt-respectful/ar-AABUjx4?ocid=spartanntp

Posting on Facebook I added:

Jason Statham and Rosie Huntington-Whiteley have a 19 years age gap and are still happily married, so I think it's ageist for Natalie Portman to make such a fuss about a 14 years age gap; especially when Moby acted totally responsibly.
I think he was right to apologise for a mix-up about the context of their 'dating', but nothing else.
Compared to most teachers, tutors, friends and managers I've seen his behaviour with Natalie Portman seems saintly!

Moby was of course a star in my Werewolf of Oz: Fantasy Travel by Google Maps. His inspired character, MiMo (Mildly Monotheist) Moby reversed the witches as negative characters from The Wizard of Oz; it was a parody of the film.
I read in his Porcelain memoir that he'd lost his childhood-youth religious belief, and believed more in science now.

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Has anyone in here actually read his book and if so, is there any Axl/Chinese Democracy stories?

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1 hour ago, 6lake sa66ath said:

Has anyone in here actually read his book and if so, is there any Axl/Chinese Democracy stories?

I haven't. Just read this interview https://www.grammy.com/grammys/news/trouble-so-hard-moby-his-new-memoir-20th-anniversary-‘play’ and no mention.

He's on a UK book tour soon, if anybody wants to meet and ask/interview him; just tickets left for London: https://fabersocial.co.uk/2019/04/08/moby-then-it-fell-apart-book-tour/

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On 25/05/2019 at 7:37 AM, Axl's Agony Aunt said:

 

 

Holy shit this is BAD, is this what Axl was trying to achieve? I see myself as a very open minded music wise but I listened to this and the only thought that crossed my mind was WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING WITH THE JAMES BOND THEME.

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19 hours ago, soon said:

Im also learning that Moby's more popular than I thought, though.

Yeah seems to be. I had never really paid attention to his stuff.

 

7 hours ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said:

Jason Statham and Rosie Huntington-Whiteley have a 19 years age gap and are still happily married, so I think it's ageist for Natalie Portman to make such a fuss about a 14 years age gap; especially when Moby acted totally responsibly.
I think he was right to apologise for a mix-up about the context of their 'dating', but nothing else.
Compared to most teachers, tutors, friends and managers I've seen his behaviour with Natalie Portman seems saintly!

I agree. Seems to just be a big misunderstanding, unless there's more to the story than what's been said.

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