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8 hours ago, downzy said:

Maybe not the shows in Vegas.  People paying $1k-$2k per ticket aren't interested in new material (unless they have another massive hit in them).  

But as a whole, new material would certainly bring out a lot more people who saw them in '16 and '17 and want to hear what a new Guns N' Roses album would sound like.  I don't have any doubts about that.  

I don't see the needle moving any higher than that stadium tour they just did. New music wouldn't make a difference.

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8 hours ago, nikothebellic said:

And once more, suppose band or even management doesn't fully aware of all this stuff. They get their payment for the show and the rest is sponsor's duties. So, basically it's not Fernando or Axl who says "let's put sky rocket price here and extremely low here"

Well, to a certain extent.  You're right that generally artists these days negotiate upfront performance payment(s) and the promoter recoups through ticket sales.

But artists aren't dumb.  They know their upfront fee will reflect the price of tickets.  A $1 million pay day will require a much lower ticket price than a $5 million pay day.  

So while you're technically right that the artist isn't in charge of ticket prices, it's not as though they don't have a hand it.

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5 hours ago, F*ck Fear said:

I skipped the 2 Toronto shows in 2017 because of stupid prices, and Axl's terrible vocals.

That's too bad, because though the ticket prices were high for those shows, Axl's vocals were better at both shows than they had been earlier that year.  

Not Axl/DC caliber, but definitely way better than he was averaging that year.  

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5 hours ago, History2010 said:

We aren't responsible for shit. If you have a problem with Axl then direct it to him. Don't ever try and blame the fans. Absolutely ridiculous.

If you really look at it, he's not wrong though. We're the one that kept supporting him doing what he does. If all of us would have stopped supporting him financially (buying his albums, tickets and merchandise), he would have had to make some changes. But probably he would have just stopped then.

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5 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

If you really look at it, he's not wrong though. We're the one that kept supporting him doing what he does. If all of us would have stopped supporting him financially (buying his albums, tickets and merchandise), he would have had to make some changes. But probably he would have just stopped then.

Axl and GN'R are giving us a service (a live performance), we are paying them for the service and thats it. Everything else is out of our control. So blaming ourselves for anything Axl does is pointless and self-destructive. 

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That place in Vegas is where Elton John and Celine Dion had their residencies, right? Looks like a nice venue, but rather small for the GNR production. Maybe that's where the high prices come from? I think it's great they are active and playing concerts, but it sucks that there is no new music yet. I hope they at least gonna test the waters for a new song or two during these shows.

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1 hour ago, History2010 said:

Axl and GN'R are giving us a service (a live performance), we are paying them for the service and thats it. Everything else is out of our control. So blaming ourselves for anything Axl does is pointless and self-destructive. 

We are the ones that kept Axl in business. What do you think would happen with their service if none of us would take it?? They would have to change the service they offer or stop.

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12 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

We are the ones that kept Axl in business. What do you think would happen with their service if none of us would take it?? They would have to change the service they offer or stop.

Absolutely not. Casual fans keeps him in business, not the hardcore ones. It’s the general public that fills stadiums and arenas, not us. If none of us take it, nothing happens.

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37 minutes ago, Derick said:

Absolutely not. Casual fans keeps him in business, not the hardcore ones. It’s the general public that fills stadiums and arenas, not us. If none of us take it, nothing happens.

And that is "us". Every single one of us that buys tickets and everything he has to sell.

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10 hours ago, Creed said:

just want to remind you that you, the one who buys tickets for these shows, are responsible for the lack of matt/gilby/steven/izzy, the lack of new music and the most horrible fan service in rock n roll history.

its a problem since 1996. instead of supporting Axl Rose, we all should have boycotted him. thats the bitter truth about guns n roses.

That is assuming Axl would release material instead of just chilling with his constant royalties in his mansion living the life.

 

The ones who want to see a live concert for a good time are not the ones to blame here - it is just a rock band there is nothing so serious to be dramatic enough to boycott IMO.  

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6 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

No. I’m partial to guy because of his involvement in the band, but there is no reason for him to return. 

Huh? It's been mentioned on the board mnay, many times since NITL started and we'll before that actually. 

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27 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Huh? It's been mentioned on the board mnay, many times since NITL started and we'll before that actually. 

I mean I don’t want to see him return. Would not improve anything at all. It’s odd Izzy is so butt hurt over the cash distribution. He would show up for nu-Guns, play weddings but won’t take the stage with the reunion. 

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14 hours ago, Creed said:

just want to remind you that you, the one who buys tickets for these shows, are responsible for the lack of matt/gilby/steven/izzy, the lack of new music and the most horrible fan service in rock n roll history.

its a problem since 1996. instead of supporting Axl Rose, we all should have boycotted him. thats the bitter truth about guns n roses.

Oh well. Too bad.

1 hour ago, TupacShakur said:

anyone think matt sorum should come back for a show?

Nah. Maybe Brain.

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