Ant Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 https://player.fm/series/rolling-stone-music-now-170040/duff-mckagan-the-rolling-stone-interview Reads books... travels... the civil war... Anne Frank's house.... Stones as setting the benchmark for older touring rock bands. Axl apparently busts his ass with the vocal warm-ups and cool-downs. Lots of anecdotes about Tenderness recording, inspirations... #MeToo, Parkland. He doubles down on the It's So Easy as tounge-in-cheek... different cultural context than today (Sunset in the 80's as an empowered free love kind of thing?). A piss take on everything going the band's way when they were nobodies. One in a Million as a character story; leaving it off the box set. #WokeAxl GNR as not right wing / left wing, political. Captain America's been torn apart... Farts. Steve Jones as major inspiration. Scott Weiland / Prince / Cornell as inspiration for Feel. Depression struggles. Positive perspective gained from addiction experiences and close calls. "We're in extra innings." Izzy! "I don't have a take.... it wasn't from not trying." "Touring is not for everybody." Host: "He said it came down to money." "Duff: Yeah. I don't even know. I love the guy." "Maybe some other time." His reuniting with Axl anecdote in 2010. "Are you guys sort of hired guns of Axl's or in a band?" "We're in the band." "New music would be wonderful." "Doesn't feel like a finite thing." "Nobody needs to know our business, we got into trouble in the past with that." DUFF MCKAGAN On IZZY STRADLIN's Non-Involvement In GUNS N' ROSES Reunion: 'Maybe Some Other Time' http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/duff-mckagan-on-izzy-stradlins-non-involvement-in-guns-n-roses-reunion-maybe-some-other-time/?fbclid=IwAR3arDJ_0-b4ubARng8XhHPwudKLWlMkoW3XdF0GcZ09lQrhGZ9a-KmVgtw I liked it better than the WTF interview; it felt a little more substantial as the host knows more about the band and it's history (is a fan too, I believe). Guarded as ever about the internal machinations but so it goes! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarHin22 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 this coming from the man who sang "if you don't shut your mouth you gonna feel the floor" with lots of compassion Duff's current danger levels: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, action said: this coming from the man who sang "if you don't shut your mouth you gonna feel the floor" with lots of compassion He didn't write than one though so we can let him off there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_school_gnr_fan Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Ant said: 6 hours ago, Ant said: GNR as not right wing / left wing, political. Oh, that explains the Trump pinada in Mexico. Thanks for the clarification, Duff. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 47 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: He didn't write than one though so we can let him off there he could have sung "sister's aren't doing it for themselves" in stead but he picked the classic by the misfits in stead. because it is shocking, and therefore, very much fun. In 1992, duff still was a badass. 2019 duff, and with him the rest of the gunners, asshole to asshole couldn't make a beer fart in a whirlwind anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, action said: he could have sung "sister's aren't doing it for themselves" in stead but he picked the classic by the misfits in stead. because it is shocking, and therefore, very much fun. In 1992, duff still was a badass. 2019 duff, and with him the rest of the gunners, asshole to asshole couldn't make a beer fart in a whirlwind anymore Heartbreak Ridge! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Just now, Len Cnut said: Heartbreak Ridge! this movie should be mandatory study material at high school. there is so much life whisdom and character in that movie, it's insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, action said: this movie should be mandatory study material at high school. there is so much life whisdom and character in that movie, it's insane Up to and including how to fuck up relationships with mad ginger women that assault you with six packs whilst on the verge of being seduced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gnfnrs1972 Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 I think I'm starting to like Myles Kennedy more than Duff now. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drexl Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 Duff "The King of Beers" McKagan - the ultimate villain for the GNR fanbase. He dethroned Axl. People really need to hate someone. 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzagbigbag Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Drexl said: Duff "The King of Beers" McKagan - the ultimate villain for the GNR fanbase. He dethroned Axl. People really need to hate someone. You’re right. Its annoying. I strongly believe that all this „hate“ for individual band members wouldn’t be there if there finally would be some new music the fans could focus on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, zigzagbigbag said: You’re right. Its annoying. I strongly believe that all this „hate“ for individual band members wouldn’t be there if there finally would be some new music the fans could focus on. Agreed. It doesn't help though that Duff is making a total ass of himself recently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Quote On Izzy: "I don't have a take.... it wasn't from not trying." "Touring is not for everybody." Host: "He said it came down to money." "Duff: Yeah. I don't even know. I love the guy." "Maybe some other time." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, RONIN said: Exactly, stuff like that. Duff should just shut up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 No more loaning Duff, you will soon be able to afford it! Much bigger and better than ever, thanks to your top notch 100% PC communication! Waaaay to go! (give that man a break. And a bigger boat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Drexl said: Duff "The King of Beers" McKagan - the ultimate villain for the GNR fanbase. He dethroned Axl. People really need to hate someone. Not hate. # annoying as fuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, gnfnrs1972 said: I think I'm starting to like Myles Kennedy more than Duff now. I love Myles. 1 hour ago, El Guapo said: Agreed. It doesn't help though that Duff is making a total ass of himself recently. 1 hour ago, RONIN said: 1 hour ago, El Guapo said: Exactly, stuff like that. Duff should just shut up. Yeah, it's pretty obvious when he's outright lying. Better than that is Slash's response in one of his recent interviews where he said that he wasn't even going to say anything (about Izzy). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said: I love Myles. Yeah, it's pretty obvious when he's outright lying. Better than that is Slash's response in one of his recent interviews where he said that he wasn't even going to say anything (about Izzy). Yeah, Slash is way better with these questions. Plus, Duff being so dishonest and stupid doesn't go well with writing a book named "How to be a man" and the "Punk as fuck" stuff at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tadsy Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Drexl said: Duff "The King of Beers" McKagan - the ultimate villain for the GNR fanbase. He dethroned Axl. People really need to hate someone. You’ve missed the mark mate. I’m don’t think anyone “hates” Duff. I certainly don’t. I don’t hate any member of the band or previous versions even if some aren’t my cup of tea. Duff has recently come out and given some interviews where he’s said things that in the eyes of the majority of informed people in this fan base (especially on here) that we’re at worst lies and at best, distortions of the truth. Its irritating (and also insulting) that he has recently sprouted some big variations on the truth regarding topics like “it’s so easy” and the topic of Izzy not being in the reunion. There’s an old school saying, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time!!! If duff had of just came out and said, look it’s so easy is what it is and it was written 30+ years ago, nobody would say anything because that’s just the way it was back then at that stage of their lives and society in general was far more forgiving. As for Izzy, my issue with his comments were, he didn’t even sound believable in what he was saying, does he really expect the fan base to believe he doesn’t know why Izzy wasn’t in the reunion??? I don’t think anyone here expects duff to give us every minute detail of that situation (even though it would be nice) but he could have said something along the lines of, look we just couldn’t come to an agreement... i think the fact all the band members aren’t talking about the issues openly and trying to be protective of their privacy is leading to some very stupid sounding responses when they are pressed on difficult issues. Theyd be far better off just telling the truth. Edited June 25, 2019 by Tadsy 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Holographic Universe Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tadsy said: You’ve missed the mark mate. I’m don’t think anyone “hates” Duff. I certainly don’t. I don’t hate any member of the band or previous versions even if some aren’t my cup of tea. Duff has recently come out and given some interviews where he’s said things that in the eyes of the majority of informed people in this fan base (especially on here) that we’re at worst lies and at best, distortions of the truth. Its irritating (and also insulting) that he has recently sprouted some big variations on the truth regarding topics like “it’s so easy” and the topic of Izzy not being in the reunion. There’s an old school saying, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time!!! If duff had of just came out and said, look it’s so easy is what it is and it was written 30+ years ago, nobody would say anything because that’s just the way it was back then at that stage of their lives and society in general was far more forgiving. As for Izzy, my issue with his comments were, he didn’t even sound believable in what he was saying, does he really expect the fan base to believe he doesn’t know why Izzy wasn’t in the reunion??? I don’t think anyone here expects duff to give us every minute detail of that situation (even though it would be nice) but he could have said something along the lines of, look we just couldn’t come to an agreement... i think the fact all the band members aren’t talking about the issues openly and trying to be protective of their privacy is leading to some very stupid sounding responses when they are pressed on difficult issues. Theyd be fat better off just telling the truth. Axl said something similar about not knowing ultimately why Izzy didn’t want to be apart of the reunion. He said Izzy would say one thing then change the next day. It sounds like a full AFD5 reunion was initially proposed and Izzy wasn’t up for it. Izzy doesn’t want to be apart of a huge band and the demands necessary to perform at that level. His history proves that much. Everybody here always say Axl or Slash should do this or that for the fans, well maybe Izzy should have accepted his role “for the fans”. Izzy didn’t want to be there and his demand for equal loot was his passive aggressive way out of taking on the responsibility. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, Tadsy said: You’ve missed the mark mate. I’m don’t think anyone “hates” Duff. I certainly don’t. I don’t hate any member of the band or previous versions even if some aren’t my cup of tea. Duff has recently come out and given some interviews where he’s said things that in the eyes of the majority of informed people in this fan base (especially on here) that we’re at worst lies and at best, distortions of the truth. Its irritating (and also insulting) that he has recently sprouted some big variations on the truth regarding topics like “it’s so easy” and the topic of Izzy not being in the reunion. There’s an old school saying, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time!!! If duff had of just came out and said, look it’s so easy is what it is and it was written 30+ years ago, nobody would say anything because that’s just the way it was back then at that stage of their lives and society in general was far more forgiving. As for Izzy, my issue with his comments were, he didn’t even sound believable in what he was saying, does he really expect the fan base to believe he doesn’t know why Izzy wasn’t in the reunion??? I don’t think anyone here expects duff to give us every minute detail of that situation (even though it would be nice) but he could have said something along the lines of, look we just couldn’t come to an agreement... i think the fact all the band members aren’t talking about the issues openly and trying to be protective of their privacy is leading to some very stupid sounding responses when they are pressed on difficult issues. Theyd be far better off just telling the truth. I was coming to post something extremely similar. I would wager good money that one of the things that drew most GN'R fans to them in the first place was their "No BS" attitude. Good, bad or indifferent; GN'R was GN'R. So I can totally understand how so many fans are beyond irritated with Duff ridiculous attempt to double talk and BS people now regarding old GN'R lyrics and images. As you said, he would be much better off just telling the truth. "Hey, we were young and dumb. We said and did young and dumb things. It is what it is". 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, gnfnrs1972 said: I think I'm starting to like Myles Kennedy more than Duff now. Myles for rhythm guitarist! And then they could add Sugar Cane to the set... this feels like something huge... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikute91 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: I was coming to post something extremely similar. I would wager good money that one of the things that drew most GN'R fans to them in the first place was their "No BS" attitude. Good, bad or indifferent; GN'R was GN'R. So I can totally understand how so many fans are beyond irritated with Duff ridiculous attempt to double talk and BS people now regarding old GN'R lyrics and images. As you said, he would be much better off just telling the truth. "Hey, we were young and dumb. We said and did young and dumb things. It is what it is". I don't want to come off as if I'm defending Duff here, but I kinda see why he feels like he needs to make those claims about It's So Easy. Yes it's annoying, it looks pathetic to the old fans and I'd like him to quit it... but don't forget the PC climate we live in, where songs like Baby It's Cold Outside get banned by the radio. Their past lifestyles and a number of songs are an easy target for censure, and 'no BS' attitude just doesn't seem to appeal that much to the younger generations anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) uhmm...didn't Slash say 15 years ago Duff is spineless? he always said what he thought public wanted to hear, probably does the same with Axl. Slash, obviously, doesn't agree with this line up, but has no support from Duff and is stranded there like an island. Duff, on the other hand, doesn't want to endanger his $$$$ even if that means leaving out Iz/Matt/Adler and putting up with Frank. Only hope is endless questions about Izzy, until they begin to feel fed up. Edited June 25, 2019 by shotsfired cro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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