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Impending US/UK war with Iran

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  1. 1. What's your view?

    • Let's drop bombs, because it's been a short while since the last major war?
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    • Let's all get along and not wage war
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On 9/21/2019 at 3:28 AM, AtariLegend said:

You have to approach it from the mindset that mass shootings at schools at mals are a semi regular thing for Americans, so millions of people dying in a war on the otherside of the war isn't so bad, no?

They don't believe in global warming, probably don't believe in nucleat fallout.

While this is a funny troll, Americans aren't going for this middle eastern war bullshit at the moment, most people here regardless of political outlook still have Iraq War Syndrome. Love live Iraq War Syndrome!

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Scary. :( 

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26 minutes ago, Graeme said:

This+will+end+well+this+will+end+well+mo

The will of the people.

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7 minutes ago, AtariLegend said:

The last will and testament of the people.

 

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Posted (edited)

Trump speaking live now (11:30 est, Wed January 8). Trump, reading off a teleprompter, says...

- No deaths or serious injury, little damage suffered from Iranian missile strike

- Iran appear to be standing down 'which is good.'

- US continues to review options

- US imposing new, additional, economic sanctions on Iran

- Iraninan agression and support of terror "Will not be tolerated any longer." (part of a dig at Obomber)

- Trump to ask NATO for increased role in Mid East

- US no longer needs Iran oil and is 'self sufficient' in energy resources 

- Suggests that the power of US forces and the threat of further sanctions should be enough of a deterrent

- US and Iran should be working together to thwart out terror

- "The US is ready to embrace peace with all who seek it."

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Cough*bullshit*Cough

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I'm watching it... ugh, this guy is so full of shit.

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Trump made the UNPRECEDENTED move of not informing NATO allies prior to the assassination. NATO allies such as Canadians were in harms way too!!

And now he has the fucking nerve to call for NATO to enter the region to help clean up his mess. :facepalm::fuckyou::anger: 

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1 minute ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

So you would rather go to war? 

My country won't go to war because we don't have a reality tv star with no political experience for a president.

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4 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

So you would rather go to war? 

We'd be a lot further from war if Trump didn't decide to assassinate an Iranian national hero!

And then he has the gall to ask for Iran to help thwart out terror, hello, what do you think Soleimani was doing in regards to ISIS!

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18 minutes ago, soon said:

Trump made the UNPRECEDENTED move of not informing NATO allies prior to the assassination. NATO allies such as Canadians were in harms way too!!

And now he has the fucking nerve to call for NATO to enter the region to help clean up his mess. :facepalm::fuckyou::anger: 

Who cares if NATO was alerted or not. The point is the assassination itself! He assassinated a general that was on a diplomatic mission under the flag of truce. A guy who was wiping out ISIS! That is the crime, not who he informed or didn't!

Edit: the anti-war folks need to be more full throated in their denunciations of this and not just offer process critiques. Not saying you are doing that, but that's been a lot of the reaction to this.

Edited by Basic_GnR_Fan

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1 minute ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Who cares if NATO was alerted or not. The point is the assassination itself! He assassinated a general that was on a diplomatic mission under the flag of truce. A guy who was wiping out ISIS! That is the crime, not who he informed or didn't!

Both items matter 

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12 minutes ago, EvanG said:

My country won't go to war because we don't have a reality tv star with no political experience for a president.

Neither will mine. 

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3 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Ok, the assassination itself matters 95%, and who he informed or not 5%

The material reality for the troops in harms way isnt one of litigation.

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4 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Who cares if NATO was alerted or not. The point is the assassination itself! He assassinated a general that was on a diplomatic mission under the flag of truce. A guy who was wiping out ISIS! That is the crime, not who he informed or didn't!

Edit: the anti-war folks need to be more full throated in their denunciations of this and not just offer process critiques. Not saying you are doing that, but that's been a lot of the reaction to this.

Soelmani WAS A TERRORIST he was not a friend of the US he was responsible for the deaths of thousands of American deaths.  Both Bush and Obama considered doing it

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Just now, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Soelmani WAS A TERRORIST he was not a friend of the US he was responsible for the deaths of thousands of American deaths.  Both Bush and Obama considered doing it

Seriously, stop listening to Ben Shapiro, it's warping your mind. Soleimani literally fought alongside the US after 9/11 in Afghanistan. He was one of the key players in destroying ISIS. Yet you call him a terrorist with no evidence. Stop and think.

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2 minutes ago, soon said:

The material reality for the troops in harms way isnt one of litigation.

If we want to strike at the heart of the US empire we have to be bold and go after the heart of the matter, not snipe around the edges.

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22 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

If we want to strike at the heart of the US empire we have to be bold and go after the heart of the matter, not snipe around the edges.

Both items matter, regardless. 

If working class issues (the troops) arent at the centre of our struggle, then we literally have no quantifiable struggle to speak of!!

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Seriously, stop listening to Ben Shapiro, it's warping your mind. Soleimani literally fought alongside the US after 9/11 in Afghanistan. He was one of the key players in destroying ISIS. Yet you call him a terrorist with no evidence. Stop and think.

I am not. Solemani was a terrorist and people are happy he is gone. My mind is not warped I listen to a variety of sources. You are spewing Iranian propaganda. Both Bush and Obama considered pulling the trigger

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/01/03/i-was-so-happy-local-iranians-react-to-death-of-solemani/

https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/2/79283/Iraqis-celebrate-Soleimani-killing-Pompeo-tweets

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Iranian-Americans-rally-in-SF-to-celebrate-14951605.php

 

Soleimani was respected and feared, seen as either the evil mastermind behind policies of death and destruction or the genius architect of Iran’s expansionist policies. He was also hated, not only by Sunnis who suffered at the hands of his proxy militias in Syria and Iraq, but also by fellow Shias, including some in Iraq and Iran, where he helped uphold a repressive system and was seen as the man responsible for Iran’s role in costly wars abroad. He was not simply on a mission to undo the unsatisfying score of the Iran-Iraq war and make up for the conflict’s devastating death toll and the humiliation it served his country; he had become the mission, the upholder of the Islamic revolution, keeping it alive for Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. (Soleimani was also key to defeating the Islamic State, but this served very specific purposes for the Iranian commander.)

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/01/qassem-soleimani-death-missed/604396/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-obama-bush-and-bibi-all-passed-on-killing-qassem-soleimani

It's basically why Clinton did not want to kill Bin Landen  because he was worried about Collateral Damage and we all know what happened next

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