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You're excited.  We're all excited.  VERY excited.

 

But yeah, that's pretty extreme.  The two minutes we heard were pretty good.  Indicates that the two songs they're from are probably decent.

 

But to declare the two minutes of songs we've heard as the best thing you've ever heard in your whole life?  Well, either you're just letting all this excitement getting to you or, yes indeed, you're stupid.

 

Hey, your words, not mine!!

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1 hour ago, The Real McCoy said:

To go to sleep or not....that is the question....

Go to sleep Hopper!!

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I think the leaks proved that they were better songs to choose from. It also shows that the overproduction of CD along with the cut and paste aspects was a determent to the album. The demo of Chinese Democracy (song) proved how good it is. Granted some songs like Scraped is just plain awful no matter the demo I heard or the album version. 

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18 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Am I stupid for saying CDII is becoming one of my favorite albums of all time even though I’ve only heard less than 2 minutes of the album? Or just desperate for new music? Or both :P 

The leaks have been spectacular. I’m convinced Axl is a genius and angry he wasted all these years.

I think it all came down to Axl having too many yes men surrounding him, but not enough people he actually trusted to critique the music, so when Iovine and Ezrin came in and told him it wasn't good enough, his confidence was completely shattered and he simply didn't have any of his classic resolve left to tell them to fuck off and believe in his work.

He needed an Izzy, Duff, or Slash to back him up. And without that, he just kept toiling away until it would be deemed as the masterpiece he intended for it to be, which never came to fruition. So he ended up working on it all to bury it.

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1 minute ago, Draguns said:

I think the leaks proved that they were better songs to choose from. It also shows that the overproduction of CD along with the cut and paste aspects was a determent to the album. The demo of Chinese Democracy (song) proved how good it is. Granted some songs like Scraped is just plain awful no matter the demo I heard or the album version. 

Maybe Scraped was released to fuck with the record company. Like Axl was pissed about something and forcing Scraped on the album was his fuck you to the record company.

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Just now, The Holographic Universe said:

Maybe Scraped was released to fuck with the record company. Like Axl was pissed about something and forcing Scraped on the album was his fuck you to the record company.

I don't know what's the story is with the song. Good lyrics but musically is one of the worst GNR songs ever recorded. 

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I quite like Scraped :P That said, it wasnt until the Rock Band multi tracks that you could really tell there are some great individual guitar parts all mushed together in the final mix.

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I could see how the record company would have issues with some of the lyrics for the album in the late 90s early 2000s beings Axl was primarily writing about Steph, and any other breakups he was going through during that time.. Those lyrics in hardschool look geared towards ex band mates and if the label was always tring to piece the band back together behind Axl's back and against his intentions at the time, somewhere through all the brush back the vision for the album became a non profit in thier eyes compared to reuniting them.. And probably underestimated Axl's drive to continue Guns without Slash, Duff, etc. 

He could have written his magnum opus but if the record co thought the song was about Slash.. And secretly wanted them to reunite, they probably sabotaged any momentum that Album would ever receive.. 

And I'm betting the farm that the stuff he did write about the band breaking up is probably his best written material of the lot.. 

Just a theory 

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48 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

Maybe Scraped was released to fuck with the record company. Like Axl was pissed about something and forcing Scraped on the album was his fuck you to the record company.

If it was done to F with the record company, it failed in a major way.  Scraped was used on Sunday(or Monday?) night football a week or 2 after the album released.  Not sure if they still do, but at the time they were bumpering one commercial break per week with newly released music, as highlights played in the background.  Point being, it was a paid advertisement,  it was pushed by someone at the record company.  So if it was an Axl "troll" on the record company, it was lost on them.  

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2 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

Well.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm excited.

I just called work and told them I quit so I can sit here and wait to hear new 20 year old recordings of GNR.

My boss was like "Oh shit really?"  and he quit too.

lol! you win the internet for today.

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7 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

It sure as beans won’t happen, but I think they should add Hard School to the setlist for the next leg. I think it’s the best non-ballad rock song of the whole NuGNR era, and that’s saying something because Chinese and Better are awesome tunes.

That would be something. It certainly sounds better than Shadow Of Your Love. 

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3 minutes ago, WildStar said:

That would be something. It certainly sounds better than Shadow Of Your Love. 

I really like Shadow but Hard School is amazing. I wonder if Axl would sing „All cautions made...” part in mickey voice or in chest voice

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6 minutes ago, sl4yer said:

I really like Shadow but Hard School is amazing. I wonder if Axl would sing „All cautions made...” part in mickey voice or in chest voice

I honestly don't think he could play it live amazing song but would be really hard to sing live.

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Can’t say I’m too excited to hear 20 year old recordings that never made the cut for one reason or another. 

If there is a new Guns album, I want Slash and Duff to play a big part. 

Still curious though. 

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Look at this guy...."can't say I'm too excited."

 

Too cool for hardschool.

 

Admit it man....you're pissing yourself like the rest of us. 

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2 minutes ago, Axl_morris said:

Girlfriend thinks I'm spending to much time on my phone and wants to know "who is she"

 

Now would be the perfect opportunity for someone to leak a new Prostitute demo.. 

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2 minutes ago, Axl_morris said:

Girlfriend thinks I'm spending to much time on my phone and wants to know "who is she"

 

Good thing prostitute didnt leak

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36 minutes ago, Axl_morris said:

Girlfriend thinks I'm spending to much time on my phone and wants to know "who is she"

 

Tell her you have a date with Atlas.

Oops, double post. Sorry everybody!

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1 hour ago, Draguns said:

I don't know what's the story is with the song. Good lyrics but musically is one of the worst GNR songs ever recorded. 

Managed to crawl out my hole this weekend (been busy and trying to keep up with this thread has proven a challenge!).

I actually like the song. Decent rocker and good driving riff.

I think the intro kills it. Without that horrible intro a lot of the hate for the song would go I think. It's a bit like many of the songs on UYI I, just a good rocker.

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13 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

Can’t say I’m too excited to hear 20 year old recordings that never made the cut for one reason or another. 

If there is a new Guns album, I want Slash and Duff to play a big part. 

Still curious though. 

If Axl will someday decide to release another Guns album, it's highly likely Slash and Duff will be a big part of it. I'd bet they'll be all over the album but when, if ever, will that happen?

In the mean time, our best chance to hear Axl's music is leaks and it sounds like from the little I've heard, it was good enough to be released so I'll take what I can get. It's been way too long since we've last heard Axl's recorded vocals and I don't mean rock the rock.

 

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