Apollo Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, Swampfox said: So Axl can either sell these tracks on iTunes for $1 each and make millions of wait for the leaks and pay millions on lawyers and make zero on this material. Come on Axl let us buy your music! I'd buy each of them for $2 each! Axl is my favorite singer of all time. But man, the guy has some real issues in terms of how he views his fans (and all the spoils those fans have provided him. Hundreds of millions of dollars, living the life of luxury, living in a mansion, hot chicks throwing themselves at him, etc). Obviously it's his career, his life and the songs he creates are his songs (as well as the band members who helped create them). BUT just speaking for myself, I couldn't keep my work away from my fans like Axl chooses to do. If I created 20 songs and I knew that 3 million of my fans would love to pay money to get to enjoy them.....in good conscious, I couldn't say "I don't owe them anything" and then sit back in my mansion and let those songs collect dust for 20 years. My feeling would be "hey guys, thank you for all the support over the last 30 years. Here are some songs I worked on twenty years ago, please enjoy, I hope you dig them." And I would want to get that music out to the fans, not have people stealing CDs and leaking unfinished versions. Again - Axl can do whatever he wants with his songs. I'm just saying what I would do. At some point, when you are rich beyond your wildest dreams, when you are worshipped by millions of fans.....it's OK to do those fans a solid and let them buy an album of your work. Even if you don't think those songs are perfect, it's OK to just do something to thank your fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Apollo said: I'd buy each of them for $2 each! Axl is my favorite singer of all time. But man, the guy has some real issues in terms of how he views his fans (and all the spoils those fans have provided him. Hundreds of millions of dollars, living the life of luxury, living in a mansion, hot chicks throwing themselves at him, etc). Obviously it's his career, his life and the songs he creates are his songs (as well as the band members who helped create them). BUT just speaking for myself, I couldn't keep my work away from my fans like Axl chooses to do. If I created 20 songs and I knew that 3 million of my fans would love to pay money to get to enjoy them.....in good conscious, I couldn't say "I don't owe them anything" and then sit back in my mansion and let those songs collect dust for 20 years. My feeling would be "hey guys, thank you for all the support over the last 30 years. Here are some songs I worked on twenty years ago, please enjoy, I hope you dig them." And I would want to get that music out to the fans, not have people stealing CDs and leaking unfinished versions. Again - Axl can do whatever he wants with his songs. I'm just saying what I would do. At some point, when you are rich beyond your wildest dreams, when you are worshipped by millions of fans.....it's OK to do those fans a solid and let them buy an album of your work. Even if you don't think those songs are perfect, it's OK to just do something to thank your fans. Does it have anything to do with the number of people that worked on/written/recorded a lot of this stuff? Like if he dumps all this on iTunes, it's not just Axl getting the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Modano09 said: Does it have anything to do with the number of people that worked on/written/recorded a lot of this stuff? Like if he dumps all this on iTunes, it's not just Axl getting the money. GNR is under a record contract. Technically Axl can’t just throw these songs up online even if he wants to. UMG needs to agree to release it and their contract stipulates if there’s advances that are owed and what’s recoupable for the label to collect. It’s a little more complicated than that and on top of it was originally signed when physical media sales were the base of the agreement. Edited July 28, 2019 by guitarpatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Minus Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Nothing is forthcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, T-Minus said: Nothing is forthcoming. Don't think so either...and eventually someone will order him to give them the cds back. Edited July 28, 2019 by Propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeldhipi Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 life is complicated in GNR world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jw224 said: When it comes the whole owning the cds thing my understanding is that he owns the physical media but anything actually on it is not owned by him and is owned by the copyright holder. I am no lawyer, but this feels correct. If I bought a storage locker and there was the entire Marvel cinematic universe and Star Wars DVD box-sets inside, I wouldn't expect Disney to be happy if I suddenly started uploading them on YouTube. It is what it is. I wish it were different, and 100% respect to anyone working for the benefit of the fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, T-Minus said: Nothing is forthcoming. The Song nothing? 🤘🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Nah I think we'll get maybe some snippets, maybe a thirty seconds clip of something like Thyme, then some worthless stuff like a drum track snippet haha, but genuinely I think we'll just see a very tiny clip and that's it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Did something happen when silkworms and the other tracks leaked the other time?? Edited July 28, 2019 by Propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Modano09 said: Does it have anything to do with the number of people that worked on/written/recorded a lot of this stuff? Like if he dumps all this on iTunes, it's not just Axl getting the money. That makes it even worse that he doesn't do it. Axl doesn't need the money....but the other musicians who are credited on the songs surely do. If Ron has a writing credit or two, I'm sure he'd welcome the songs be up for sale so he could make a little income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLotus1111 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 So it's just ... with the music? I thought others had copies of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 31illusions Posted July 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, T-Minus said: Nothing is forthcoming. I heard enough to know that Atlas sucks and Hard School is a cool rocker. I'm ok with that. PS. my mental image of @RussTCB 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfan2008 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 23 hours ago, DarkLotus1111 said: So it's just ... with the music? I thought others had copies of it? Other people have it. But that's no different than the hoarders of the past. I think they will all sit on it. Can't blame them for wanting to avoid legal trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Minus Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 23 hours ago, DarkLotus1111 said: So it's just ... with the music? I thought others had copies of it? Partly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stro Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 23 hours ago, DarkLotus1111 said: So it's just ... with the music? I thought others had copies of it? There are at least 3 different people that have had the discs over the past few days. Impossible to know who made copies of what and who, if anyone, those were given to along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Moustache_Rules Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 minute ago, T-Minus said: Partly true. False Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Just leak them. This is his calling, legend status. A community hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Minus Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Just now, Stro said: There are at least 3 different people that have had the discs over the past few days. Impossible to know who made copies of what and who, if anyone, those were given to along the way. What people need to grasp here is that the distribution of these songs has been done in such a way that a leak would be traceable to an individual rather than the collective.... it’s designed to pinser movement any one of them that try to share... the intentions may be good but they’ve been backed into a corner, cleverly by people they were “working” with. Body slammed, if you will... 3 minutes ago, Axls_Moustache_Rules said: False 100% true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pskihq92 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 This is too stressful lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Moustache_Rules Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, T-Minus said: What people need to grasp here is that the distribution of these songs has been done in such a way that a leak would be traceable to an individual rather than the collective.... it’s designed to pinser movement any one of them that try to share... the intentions may be good but they’ve been backed into a corner, cleverly by people they were “working” with. Body slammed, if you will... 100% true. You have no idea.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Axls_Moustache_Rules said: You have no idea.. Care to clarify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Right but there’s still 15/20 Axl vocal songs which is what most of everyone cares about. Yeah agreed, and it's a very significant find either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: Just leak them. This is his calling, legend status. A community hero! for gods sake, not that way. if you do that, you'll have mgmt, label and cops after your dumb ass. if you'd have the stuff, you'd have to make sure it leaks absolutely anonymously, and in no way you can play a "hero". of course, this is a hard thing to imagine for many people who used their own money and effort and in the end they can't even say "hey, it was all liberated thanks to me!" but that's unfortunately how things go. if the stuff would leak anonymously, the shitstorm like this would never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 We need a climactic ending with FBI and swat teams if Netflix are going to make this movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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