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19 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

If they were purchased in a storage locker, they should be ...'s legally. Its other people we all know who are trying to eff this up

Who knows what is reliable at this point.

Fair doos. Time will tell I guess. 👍

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Just now, DTJ80 said:

When you say that - do you mean in the immediate future or at all?

I mean, we know this shit exists now. I'd say its possible... maybe even likely we hear it at one point. It just might not be any time soon or through anyone involved with this. Who knows?

 

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4 minutes ago, bumbleslash69 said:

What would our man get in trouble with exactly if caught red handed? Copyright infringement?Like when people put up YouTube videos and then have claims made and they're taken offline? 

I'm not well versed in most laws, but hasn't the "most" illegal act already happened? When the locker buyer sold the CDs? 

There is nothing different or special about this just because it's GnR and unreleased, right? It's still sharing UMG material the same way people do everyday with YT videos? 

I'm just trying to follow along. I don't want the guy to get in trouble at all, but I get a little lost when people talk about him going to prison for the rest of his life. I'm thinking it would be a copyright infringement charge for each track that leaks? (Or just one if he puts them as one file like the Radiohead leak)

Infringer pays the actual dollar amount of damages and profits. The law provides a range from $200 to $150,000 for each work infringed. Infringer pays for all attorneys fees and court costs.

That’s per song if they pursue. Not something to take lightly 

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6 hours ago, megaguns1982 said:

UPDATE: Just chatted to our man for half hour on the phone. 

He Played me a couple of songs     With axl singing down the phone line, obvious unheard GnR.

Hes a good guy. i totally get his issues about stuff to do with this....

but yeh he legit has the music and just blew my mind lol

 

 

 

What tracks did you get to hear?

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19 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

If they were purchased in a storage locker, they should be ...'s legally. Its other people we all know who are trying to eff this up

Who knows what is reliable at this point.

... may legally own the discs, but he doesn’t own the IP or copyright on the music. 

It’s to an extent like any other CD / record / digital download that you buy - you own the right to owning that one copy of the media, but you aren’t legally allowed to make other copies.

The rules and laws may be different due to these being unreleased tracks, but I think that’s its basically the same, for the most part.

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7 minutes ago, guitarpatch said:

Infringer pays the actual dollar amount of damages and profits. The law provides a range from $200 to $150,000 for each work infringed. Infringer pays for all attorneys fees and court costs.

That’s per song if they pursue. Not something to take lightly 

In the United States you can fuck children and get away with a slap on the wrist and a fine, but HEAVEN FORBID you steal property

"How dare you besmirch capitalism, sir! Your life is now over!"

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7 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

I mean, we know this shit exists now. I'd say its possible... maybe even likely we hear it at one point. It just might not be any time soon or through anyone involved with this. Who knows?

 

Sorry bud - that question was for T-minus as he stated nothing is forthcoming and seemed to know some stuff (not sure if my question linked to you as I responded to your reply). I agree with you anyway!

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8 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Sorry bud - that question was for T-minus as he stated nothing is forthcoming and seemed to know some stuff (not sure if my question linked to you as I responded to your reply). I agree with you anyway!

My bad!

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1 minute ago, Kayo Michell said:

Why the hell wasn't Hard School included on ChiDem??????

 

Maybe he was hoping for YCBM approach on the next album. 

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6 minutes ago, Kayo Michell said:

Why the hell wasn't Hard School included on ChiDem??????

CD is quite a ballad heavy album

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On 7/27/2019 at 7:59 AM, Azifwekare said:

Can @Gambit83pull Tobias out of the vault?

I've tried but no response.

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Posted (edited)

Seriously. I don't want anything to be leaked at this point. Not in the way anyone's been waiting from @axlrosefan4life.

"Leak them. You had one job." JUST NO.

I don't want anyone to get in trouble for some 20 year old songs, which we are begging uncle Axl to pay! This is a joke.

At least I know these discs are in good hands. True fan's hands like me, you.

It's not @axlrosefan4life job to release them. It's Axl's & Co. to do so.

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8 minutes ago, Axl_morris said:

Anyone here living in England?

Isnt USA a third worlds country?

 

Dont leak anything... Let GnR work on the new album

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Posted (edited)

Someone noted @axlrosefan4life posted on Facebook earlier - did anyone catch what he said?

And @axlrosefan4life, thanks for what you have done and may yet do. This has probably blown up way bigger than you thought it would so understandable you may go quiet for a bit. If anything, this who saga has given us proof of additional material AND confirmed it appears to be strong stuff (Hard School). 👍

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5 minutes ago, MrSoftie said:

We need someone in Russia or China maybe?

I don't think the guy had intentions to leak it, to begin with, to be honest...

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Why keep posting that you're going to pick up all the cds then just not leak it or anything? Seems odd to do to forums that you know everyone wants to hear the songs?

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I know people have had their hopes up but in defense nothing was promised. There’s people who say stuff to fuel the fire and wishful thinking expectations but in the end assumptions have brought on the feelings getting anymore else. So hopefully no one starts criticizing others over this. I’m sure we will hear more information on certain specifics but to think everything would be unloaded just like that is a huge miscalculation. To actually leak anything would require preparations and I don’t think people realize how much time could go into that to do it right and anonymously to the comfort of the “supplier”. Not to mention copying over and organizing and sifting through everything. It’s not the simplest task. 

Yes someone could probably get away with hosting a stream and having someone play some of the music as a guest in a private periscope group for several people. Who then could record the audio and share that. But when it comes down to it any actual leaks of legitimate files aside from a small handful is not smart if you think about it honestly. No matter how bad someone wants to hear songs. 

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