spunko12345 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, BlueJean Baby said: Police said shooter is white Male in his 20s. Possible manifesto posted on social media prior to shootings reported. Wow really??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, jdfdemocracy1979 said: So it stopped all killing violence etc? Where is this eutopia at in the world? Huh? You argue that imposing stricter gun control won't work because it does not reduce the amount of gun violence to zero? If it doesn't eliminate the problem entirely it is not worth doing? Getting gun violence down to the levels of most developed countries is simply not good enough so let's just keep it at extraordinary high levels? Congratulations on having learnt how to read and write, by the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, jdfdemocracy1979 said: So it stopped all killing violence etc? Where is this eutopia at in the world? Well I’m the UK. We had a mass shooting in a school in 1996 and banned all guns immediately afterwards. We’ve not had another incident since. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdfdemocracy1979 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, spunko12345 said: I'm not wrong or angry and if i was angry and unstable I wouldn't have the faintest idea of how to get my hands on a gun. Your an idiot by the way. I'm an idiot for expressing facts and instead of intelligently justifying anything all you can do is name call and be belligerent nice job on that. People kill people. Our problem is some people are messed up in the head and no one notices it till it's to late. Berate me name call all you want to make yourself feel justified but it still stands you are wrong! A person did this not a gun without the mentally unstable person the gun does jackshit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, jdfdemocracy1979 said: I'm an idiot for expressing facts and instead of intelligently justifying anything all you can do is name call and be belligerent nice job on that. People kill people. Our problem is some people are messed up in the head and no one notices it till it's to late. Berate me name call all you want to make yourself feel justified but it still stands you are wrong! A person did this not a gun without the mentally unstable person the gun does jackshit! I completely agree with you. A person did this and they were able to get the most efficient tool to kill the maximum amount of people. It's a subject where there are very strong opinions and I apologise for some of the unfair posts I made earlier. I didn't mean it personally towards you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Please stop with the personal insults. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdfdemocracy1979 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Please stop with the personal insults. I have not personally insulted anyone just for the record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 This is the shooter's manifesto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, janrichmond said: This is the shooter's manifesto Yeah, I only skimmed it but I’m going with “Trump supporter”. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Dazey said: Yeah, I only skimmed it but I’m going with “Trump supporter”. Same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, jdfdemocracy1979 said: I have not personally insulted anyone just for the record. You did imply that I was the profile of a shooter and while I admit it's not the same as calling someone's family a cunt, it can't be completely dismissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dazey said: Yeah, I only skimmed it but I’m going with “Trump supporter”. So do you also blame Democratic voters in Chicago for the high rate of gun violence there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdfdemocracy1979 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Same How does it imply to supporting left or right? Rhe guy is mental does not matter who he supports. You have deranged people on both sides of the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Swampfox said: So do you also blame Democratic voters in Chicago for the high rate of gun violence there? To clarify you’re talking about a high rate of general gun violence or mass shootings such as this? 2 minutes ago, jdfdemocracy1979 said: How does it imply to supporting left or right? Rhe guy is mental does not matter who he supports. You have deranged people on both sides of the fence. More so on one side than the other though if you’re honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, Dazey said: To clarify you’re talking about a high rate of general gun violence or mass shootings such as this? I'm referring to the high number of murders on a weekly basis there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Swampfox said: I'm referring to the high number of murders on a weekly basis there. And I was talkimg about a right wing nut job with a manifesto who is probably not a Democrat. Edited August 3, 2019 by Dazey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Dazey said: And I was taking about a right wing nut job with a manifesto. And you of course want to somehow make it Trump's fault which is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, Swampfox said: And you of course want to somehow make it Trump's fault which is wrong. It’s not Trump’s fault. This shit has been going on long before the Trump presidency and will continue long after because nobody wants to do anything about it. The perpetrator however is highly likely to be a Trump voter because that’s his demographic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I wonder what this dream job of his is that's likely to be automated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lio said: I wonder what this dream job of his is that's likely to be automated. McDonalds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dazey said: It’s not Trump’s fault. This shit has been going on long before the Trump presidency and will continue long after because nobody wants to do anything about it. The perpetrator however is highly likely to be a Trump voter because that’s his demographic. I'm glad you don't think it's his fault. I just don't see why this guy being a Trump supporter is relevant. There are insane people on both sides. I have mixed feeling on the issue and don't see any solution to making everyone happy. I have kids and worry about what can happen while they're in school. But I also want to protect my family if my home is broken into. A time may come when a war is fought here and I'd want to defend my family against a foreign invader. It's unlikely but possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flake Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Good job, Trump 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Oldest Goat said: I refuse to read/watch any manifestos. Another key part of the problem is the way the media gives them a platform and notoriety. I've never read one before. I only read part of it now. Among the obvious disturbing nutter talk, that jumped out to me for some reason. I struggle to come up with a dream job for a 21 year old that could be automated. 2 minutes ago, Swampfox said: A time may come when a war is fought here and I'd want to defend my family against a foreign invader. It's unlikely but possible. Don't you have like the world's biggest army? What on earth are they for then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdfdemocracy1979 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Flake said: Good job, Trump You really can not be that intelligent to blame him. He has nothing to do with it but thanks for making and ignorant statement! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Isn't a "normal " society such guns worship, i'm remember when Duff to advocate for gun control , then he was shit over for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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